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  2. Posted · Edited by Westford

    I’m kind of up in the air about the proposed “Cheat Points” accrual,
    and subsequent segregation pools.

    I’m guessing this approach is specific to Districts and not Fight Club.
    A segregation pool for Fight Club would imply that Cheaters would be
    forwarded to one instance of FC , but non-Cheaters would be forwarded
    to another instance of FC.

    I do not believe Jericho has the population to populate 2 FC’s.
    If this is the case than Cheaters and non-Cheaters would still exist in only
    one FC instance, defeating the purpose of “Cheat Points” and segregation.
    And with no more bans, FC might not be the best place for non-Cheaters
    to engage in any competitive gameplay, as it has not been able to exist between these two player types.

    So basically no competitive gameplay would be had in FC.

    So with Districts being the viable option where the population “might”
    support this concept of segregation pools, then comes the question of incentives.

    No Bans anymore for Cheaters.
    Cheaters can enjoy the use of 3rd party tools, potentially a short lived experience
    going up against non-Cheaters until that Cheater reaches a certain threshold to
    be segregated to the Cheater Pool.

    A fair assumption that there will always be some Cheaters that have not yet reached that
    threshold, and until such time, will continue competing against non-Cheaters.

    What incentive will there be for non-Cheaters to not Cheat ?
    There are no longer any penalties for Cheating, so ……

    There really is no incentive that I can see for a Cheater to not cheat.
    They will continue playing, potentially going up against other Cheaters.
    May the best Aimbot win, so to speak.

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around how this is all going to all play out.
    Although, it may be a few months I guess until Microsoft certifies the SARD drivers and such.

     

    Curious how this will all work.
    If Matt ever wants to do a Q/A specially about this new concept, that would be an interesting discussion.

    EDIT:
    Here's another scenario that will probably come up, but not sure how it would be handled.

    4 friends create their group to team up and play.
    One of the players has reached the "Cheater" threshold, and marked for segregation.
    The other 3 friends have not, or are non=Cheating characters/players.
    They K up for a mission.

    How is segregation handled in this scenario ?
     

  3. Posted · Edited by Westford

    I think @VanilleKeks has a point, concerning NO real ramifications
    for using 3rd part tools.

    On one point, the solution would be to ban the offender
    to insure fair game play.

     

    APB has followed this Mantra for a some time..

    Just like any other gaming company.

    The other argument is to segregate the offenders to match up
    with other offenders, assuming that all have reached the “Cheat Point”
    threshold.

    Citadel, may very well survive this approach, as their population’s
    high point, on any given day is around 350 players.
    Probably less time to wait for a “K” up mission to start.

    Jericho will have a problem, as their population on a good day
    is around  120.

    I hope Jericho's population decline is not because of players using 3rd party tools......


    Smaller pool of players to create segregation pools based on “Cheat Points”

    A legit player, or even a segregated player will probably have to wait longer
    for a district match up in Jericho.

     

    Penalties:
    Penalties for using 3rd party tools to gain an advantage.

    A) Perma ban..
         Lose character and Inventory.
         with a possible unban 2 or 3 years later.
         (the unban is not a guarantee)
         (Goal of the cheater is to test the efficacy of 3rd party tools,
          and to forward all ill-gotten gains to the primary account -     Non-cheating account)
          (alt accounts are throw aways)
         
        Pros:
           Clean district for a very short window of time for competitive game play.
           (window of time has been around 3-10 days)

          Cons:
            Banned player starts new account with anon email of 20+
            waiting to start up.  
            (need to direct proceeds to Primary (non-cheating) account.)
            (money, weapons, etc)
            Report discrepancies to “Tool Maker” for updates.


    As Matt Scott has explained.. “Rinse & Repeat”

    B) Segregation:
               Players using 3rd party tools to gain advantage
               earn “Cheat Points” to create a segregation pool for match up.

       Might be effective depending on what server.
       Server with a larger player base might work.

       Question:
        If players using 3rd party tools to gain an advantage will only be
       segregated and not banned, or at the very least, lose some inventory,
       does that not “promote” the concept of….

       “When in Rome”..

        I mean, everyone could use 3rd party tools with no concerns of being banned.
        Would that not bring us back to competitive game play ?
        Albeit with the help of some 3rd party tools ?

        (this discussion should be interesting .. haha)


    C) Inventory Loss:
         Player achieves a certain threshold of “Cheat Points”
         Segregation and the following potential losses.

        Let’s use a Cheat Point score to 100.

        1) 25-50
            Segregation

        2) 50-75
            Segregation
            Loss of money & 2-3 inventory items
            (player receives email of Cheat Point notoriety)
            (they have 20+ email accounts, will they ever see the email ?)

        3) 75-100
            Segregation
            Loss of money & most of their inventory items

    Maintains a threshold of 75-100 for a period of time.
    Bank Wipe..

     

    Also, let us keep track of who they are trading with.
    Co- Conspirators…  or maybe the Primary account.

     

     

    Yeah, no punishment…
    I dunno, maybe we should all just jump in the pool.

     


     

  7. Posted

    21 minutes ago, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said:

    logged in, k-ed up... max rank silver on my team that has no idea what hes doing.... vs 2 cheaters. yeah uninstalled

    Although I cannot pronounce your Forum Name,

    in any recognizable form, I always wondered if players help players

    in game with tips, and whatnot ..

     

    Playing in  PUB groups is not my 1st choice.

     

    Intuitive Teamwork gameplay with no Voice comm is rare,

    but does happen.

     

    I always liked voice comm when playing,

    But that's me .

  8. Posted

    4 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

    You want a bigger badder gun than the other guy.

     

    I am reminded of the many times I was outgunned where my unskilled opponent using 3rd party tools

    to gain an advantage, outgunned me with their FBW secondary against my primary "badder gun"

    the SHAW.

     

    Many people told me that it was probably lag, but I didn't believe them.

     

    Thank God that we have SARD now.

  9. Posted · Edited by Westford

    1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

    Vengeance is mine', said the Lord. 

    The Lord works in mysterious ways, but I doubt He sent Sard. 

    If he had, there would only be 3-4 players in NA n maybe 20 in EU.

    The others God would have fried their pc's by fire.

    I doubt He would have even spared the game it self. 

    This would be considered in Biblical times as a Game of Chance.

    And a game taking most or all of your attention, when you should be 

    tending your fields or being productive, honoring or worshipping The Lord.

    Not bowing to the false idol of the internet. 

    So , are you saying that all of my silent prayers each night after the implementation of SARD

    to insure fare gameplay against unskilled players using 3rd party tools to gain an advantage

    for the win have gone unanswered ?

     

    Oh Christ ...

  11. Posted · Edited by Westford

    27 minutes ago, Roni888888 said:

    Genuine question: When are you guys gonna take care of the cheater problem? People are cheating their ***** off and nothing is happening. Always the same names. Apparently this is not a problem for you guys, because instead of doing something against those blatant cheaters, less important updates are getting released. 

     

    I'm gonna have to second this motion...

     

    I understand that SARD is doing it's thing, collecting / analyzing data and such...

    And we all know Matt does not like to ban players( cheaters) ...

     

    We get it .

     

    But, at some point, we need to prioritize player (Customer) experience,

    and allow for a level playing field and competitive gameplay.

     

    As much as there is a high appreciation for the multiple UnBann waves over the last few years,

    at some point we need to protect competitive gameplay, and lure those players that have turned their
    backs on 3rd party tools, back in to San Paro.

     

    Many of us are still waiting ..

     

    Little Orbit ...   what say you ?

  12. Posted

    21 hours ago, Frosi said:

    Yes it will apply to all version's of the Cisco whether they come from a contact or other players.

     

     

    Essentially when accelerating (Holding W) the car's chassis will move based on how much Torque the vehicle has, to make sure that the car doesn't do a straight up wheelie the ChassisTorqueFactor modifier exists which decreases how much the chassis moves. 

     

    The Cisco used to be set to 0.015 but was accidentally changed to 0.04 sometime around christmas last year which created a scenario in which the wheels would clip through the chassis quite frequently. 

     

    This change aims to fix the clipping issue and has no real other effects on how the vehicle handles so don't expect it to handle any different than you're used to.

     

    14 hours ago, Goldexen said:

    it's basically means nothing, because Cisco is still a trash, but if you wonder: it means that chassis will be less squating when you accelerate  i.e. less weight distribution when you drive your car

    also

    And yes, i too noticed that Cisco became slower, but it was since the update with changing Cisco's weight

     

    Thanks for explaining this.

     

    I remember that LO changed the weight of the Cisco, and there was no noticeable difference in the

    vehicles acceleration from a stopped position.

     

    I noticed that the acceleration was not as "punchy" when I last played on 9/28.

    I thought it was lag at first, but when looking at the output using /fps,

    I was not experiencing any lag.

     

    So it seems something did change after the weight change.

     

    Cheers !!

     

     

     

     

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  13. Posted

    I have the Cisco JX04 "DevilDog", so I am assuming that the

    changes to the Charge Cisco applies to the Devil Dog.

     

    Question for the ill-informed ?

    How does this affect the car ?

     

     Charge Cisco:
        Reduced the amount the Cisco's chassis moves when accelerating.
        ChassisTorqueFactor reduced from 0.04 to 0.01

     

    I never really noticed the chassis swaying about before, ( if that's what is meant by "chassis moves when accelerating" )

     

    I did notice a few days ago (9/28), that the Cisco was not as quick in acceleration as it was a couple of weeks ago.

    Not sure if changes were snuck in during the 9/25 patch or I was imagining it.

     

     

     

  14. Posted · Edited by Westford

    I am guessing that we should be adding an exception for SARD in our virus scanners.

     

     

    https://imgur.com/s86YVoS

     

     

    I tried to use the Insert image from URL, but that does not seem to work for me.

     

    Edit:

    The following files were Quarentined:

     

    D:\Program Files(x86)\Gamersfirst\APB Reloaded\Binaries\SARD\armour.dll

    C:\User\<name>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Exploerer\MSIMGSIZ.DAT

     

  16. Posted

    Instead of creating a separate post, as this post is related to the OTW test server.

     

    The last time I logged into the OTW test server was about a year ago.

    At that time, it required a separate APB client install.

     

    Is that still the case, or.......

    do you use the standard APB client and then connect to an OTW district.

     

    The post from Staff:Emily on Jan 17th mentioned the OTW testing for matchmaking,

    but nothing in the post on how to access.

     

    Not sure what the turnout was for the test, but if the turn out was low,

    I'm guessing that LO did not have much to work on for testing purposes.

     

    Any insight would be great.

     

    Thanks

     

     

  17. Posted · Edited by Westford

    18 minutes ago, Queen of Love said:

    You are the next Darlene.

     

    Who the hell is Darlene ?

     

    I am "so" out of the loop from this game..

     

    The other night in District Chat, plebs were blaming "Carla"...

     

    Who the hell is Carla ?

     

    I need to work on my "muscle memory" ...

     

  18. Posted

    5 hours ago, Y2Venom said:

    I dont think it was VPN's causing the bans. Maybe it was Clara....

    Never had a problem using a VPN.

    I don't use it often.

     

    The only time I used a VPN was when in District,

    there were times that I might have been trolling a bit.

    Not being mean or anything, but kind of a jerk.

     

    It was those occasions that I would lose connection, and get kicked from district.

    Usually, after the second or third "expulsion" within a 10-15 min period,

    I would hop back on using a VPN.

     

    Added a bit of lag... but for the remainder of the evening I was "kick free".

    No more disconnects.

     

    Someone was mad !!

     

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  21. Posted · Edited by Westford

    On 8/8/2022 at 5:28 PM, NotZombieBiscuit said:

    Here you go weirdo.

     

    LordVegeta

    LAPDAlonzo

    Ray taylor

    Aeronaut/A

    /snip

     

    Yeah, I'm not real big on "tier" lists, taking into account many on the list have enjoyed the use of 3rd party tools.

     

    I thought that an Alphabetical list might provide more substance. and ease of use.

     

    I added myself and YooD , cause ,, well YooD ...

    ___________________________________________________________________

    AbbyCakes

    AcrobatSniper

    Aeronaut/ABCedra

    Afr0mang

    Agentv

    Aggression

    Alibearz

    Alphabetic

    Altamont

    Amancia

    Amanzia

    AnActualCat

    Anarq

    Ange1ofd4rkness

    Arato

    AshleyNeko

    AshReloaded

    Asylith

    Atropine

    Avalani

    Avelle

    Badtz

    Baeofchoice/baekon

    Bigbeam

    Bigbragg

    Birdmanz

    Birrymays

    BitsyKitty

    BlastinFools/One

    BlueRobin

    Bobbyboy

    Boltz

    Bombs

    Boswa

    Brenton

    BrIIcE

    Brixxx

    BTATCOM

    BUKKAKEQUEEN

    BwallStreet

    CaioSparks

    Cakey

    CDAT

    Chauklet/vop

    Cheeball

    Chev

    Chirp

    Chooka

    ChrisL

    Chucks

    Cindylouwho

    Coach

    Comedian

    CTFxCFTW

    Cykoblast

    Cyndel

    Daggeris

    Dante

    DarlaCrowley

    Dbaby

    Delta something (was in wasp)

    Desertrose

    Desire

    desolation/felid

    Dexem

    Difficulties

    Dipper

    Doland

    DrCapo

    Dreamss

    DuffingOne

    Elara

    ElGuapo

    Elix

    Elyx

    En4cer

    Eradic

    Ethlyn

    Eunoia

    EveDisaster/Gladwrapped

    Evo

    Evrina

    Exile

    Exilecard

    Exona

    Exultant

    Failues

    Faith

    Fapalina

    FASHA

    Faythe

    Financial

    Firstdimension

    Fourwall

    FreakingFerret

    Fuccdrop

    FUCK

    Fur

    Gage

    Gr3nadier

    Grease Monkey

    Griffith

    Grillsmash

    Haeling

    Haggins

    Hailkasa

    Hannibal

    Hectorcrush

    Heshers

    Heyiirawr

    Hotcops

    icallshotgun/tiff

    IcyBB

    Ihope

    IIsland

    Illgot

    ImAustria/Ebnko

    Immortality

    Indianola

    InfernalPaladin

    Infinitumx

    InifnitumX

    Innistrad

    Inteoix

    Ionox

    Iry

    Isock

    Itsmarissayolol

    Jakemilano

    Jobi

    JusticeShepeard

    Kaily

    Kaprice

    Kasull

    Kazoobles

    Kazumia

    Kimiko

    Kogey

    Krucifix

    Kteku

    KudaOP

    LAPDAlonzo

    Laptop

    Laracroft

    Laser

    Lawss

    LazyViper

    Leah 

    Leotek

    lexySparks

    LilyV3

    Little

    Lolita

    LordVegeta

    LTgh0st

    Lucidy

    Lucifer

    Lucy

    LunaTikTunaLik

    Lusty

    LuxyPunk

    Manni

    Mattskoii

    Metalcandy

    Mfwicy

    MichelleV

    MicHelleV

    Mikeytux

    Moneychixx

    Monstro

    Movis

    Mstrix

    Mushy

    Nahtze

    Natalieholloway

    Nekolin

    Ner4zza

    Newtrick

    Newtrickk

    Nipze

    Noko

    NoLifeKid

    Noviihna

    NSFW

    NSJDAWG

    Nubcamps

    Nyv

    Nzev

    Obsession

    Ohshii

    Omgbees/eugenides

    OneLegitPubera

    OnlyByNature/baeture

    Pajamalama

    Palin

    PancakePower

    Pandy

    Phresh

    Pimpsclan

    PlushieTeddy

    Poedgirl

    pogotheclown

    Propanity

    Pufferina

    Pve

    Qualified

    Quote

    Radial

    RainbowDash

    Rainbowdash

    Rapid99

    Raskul

    RavenRoxie

    Ray taylor

    Redbird

    Reddragons/papasmurf

    Redemption

    RedPandaPrince

    Rhjhguihhfr

    Richgang

    roh1t

    Ruckus

    SABR

    Sadira

    Saela

    Saela

    Salek / racksmile

    Sammistriker

    Scrublord

    Seiser

    Sephrase

    ShaneInsane

    Shizzy

    Sicopet

    Sidewayz

    Sinfulprodigy

    Skittles

    Skrill/godiva

    Skrux

    SlabJesus

    Sluttles

    Smexii

    Smoothdomino

    Snax

    Squidlips

    Sslick

    Stevemcgarret

    StringTheory

    Sulaman

    SunsetCrook

    Sup

    Superfuzz

    Sword

    Sylv

    Sylvur

    Sylvur

    T0AST

    TabithaSammuals

    Tallgeese

    Tame

    Tea

    Tele

    Telepath

    Temptations

    Tempz

    Temu

    Tev

    TGColCheese

    Th3Rock

    Thelinux

    Thicc

    TIMMEH

    Tko

    Tonedown

    Tonokon

    Tornhaze

    Tracerbullet

    Tranquility

    Trauma

    Turmoils

    Tyberious

    UnethicalPanda

    USPStyle

    Vanillakeks

    Vaya

    Vestradah/Fang

    Vetian

    Vinylscratch

    Viollette

    Virtual

    Vitorax

    Voerman

    Vulc

    Vut

    Westford

    Wh0r3

    Willow/Meowies/Wicket

    Wingedarc

    withoutXeffort

    Woogie

    Xenonshift/Shokk

    YooD

    YoushallPerish

    Zeals

    Zelly/MaximumPlayer

    Zhiex

    Zirrick

    ZoePayne

    ZombieBiscoitO

    Zombiebiscuit

    ZroTheCrooked

    Zubzero

     

  22. Posted · Edited by Westford

    Some news is better than no news.

    Appreciate the update.

     

    Getting a bit excited for the future.

     

    EDIT:

    Please don't change the road around the Abington tower's map like you did in the 2.1 Beta version.

    Way too many divots, bumps, clefts, dips and such. (got my car stuck on a divot once)

     

    The current roadway around the map is difficult enough as it is.

  24. Posted

    "is there a way to see LO's financial status"

     

    I imagine that if Little Orbit was a publicly traded company, then you would absolutely have access to their financial statements per the SEC.

    Top 6 Websites for Finding a Company's Financial Stats

     

    If they are a private company, I think the only way you might gain access is if you were an investor with significant funds.

    If you are an investor, please let us know what your findings are.

    You can check this website out pertaining to Private companies.
    Doing Company Research: A Resource Guide

     

    Good luck

  25. Posted · Edited by Westford

    52 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

    I have to ask, what exactly is your theory on this?

    I personally cannot attest or contribute any theories relative to @Noob_Guardian.

    I have never encountered a time where my "proximity" to another player may or may not have been the contributing factor to my disconnect.

     

    What I can do is provide a brief synopsis of what happened to me a few days ago.

     

    Read on: For Entertainment purposes only.

     

    The most interesting part of my story, is getting Disconnected 3 times in a 20min period.

    Keep in mind, after a disconnect, I go through the "Re-Update" process on the APB Launcher client, cause ........

    Well, I use the vanilla launcher.   (I know ,,,,, boring ... ) 😀

     

    So I am back in district for maybe a total of 3min before my next disconnect.

    3 Times in a 20min period.

     

    A bit odd I would say.

     

    So what exactly was the prelude to these fantastic moments ?

     

    Hmm. I remember I was not in any mission, just kind of trolling in District chat.

    I wasn't saying anything Hateful or mean.

    I suppose I was making fun of someone, a little bit , and then BAM ... dc'ed

    I hop back on a few minutes later, everyone is still there, and I pick up where I left of.    (😀)

    and then BAM ... dc'ed

     

    Huh, this is odd.

     

    Perhaps I should play a mission.

     

    Which I did.

    A PUB group mission.

    A mix of Gold's Silvers and Yellows

     

    Our group was winning.

    I made some absurdly good kills, and received the proverbial angry whispers.

     

    THEM:   You are such a f*cken noob, you suck

    ME:       Hey, are you that guy I just killed ?

    THEM:   FU

    ME:       Hey , I get it ,  you're Yellow,  and you want to get better

    THEM:   F off and die

    ME:       So.... I should not send a friend invite ?

    ME:       I really think I can help you get better.    (of course they have trounced me like 5 or 6 times before, with whatever skills or tools they have)

     

    and then BAM ... dc'ed

    This happened right before the mission ended, and we were winning.

    DOH !!

     

    Haha, you get the picture .

     

    This is my life ...

    I used to get angry or  frustrated .......
     

    Not anymore ...

     

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