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  1. Posted

    On 10/22/2025 at 10:16 AM, koenyboy500 said:

    Learned the Obeya FBW / Joker Carbine Firerate the hard/correct way.

    Took some time but now with the right muscle-memory it's a very rewarding experience and not unthinkable to run entire missions with just the FBW. Also I think that the learning and presence of mistakes makes it more fun.

     

    I play games for the challenge, which is why I love APB:R. I only complain about the most blatant cheaters out there. I'm sure many people 'cheat' but I like the chess of counteracting.

    But as for cheaters themselves, they are a bunch of pathetic people. Why even use macro's to 'be more effective' and 'cheat' to win, what's the point in that. I genuinely don't understand how that can be fun.

    Honour and skill. All 2300 hours.

    Muscle memory.....

     

    That's what all the good players insisted on back when the FBW Reigned supreme as a secondary.

    Thank God we have the .45 to counter it.

     

  2. Posted · Edited by Westford

    11:20 pm EST Error 10007 - Login Failed 

     

    "The APB Servers are coming back online soon, but are unavailable at this time"

     

    Confirmed this on LO Discord with other player.

     

     

     

    UPDATE:
    Just confirmed with a few people on Discord...
    Servers are down..

    Someone was in District, experience a fair amount of latency before they were disconnected.

     

     

    UPDATE 2:
    11:59pm EST


    Just confirmed on LO Discord a number of players are experiencing this.

     

    No Announcement posted , so this may very well be an unplanned outage..

     

     

    UPDATE 3:

    01:34 am EST

     

    Connected to District ,... 

     

    We are back up 

    Game is Live,,,,

  4. Posted · Edited by Westford

    1 hour ago, Victoria97 said:

    its working for me now...citadel back up.. try jericho or citadel now I hope u get in 

    Thanks, 

     

    I tried again, still can't connect to NA.

    The EU now recognize my characters, stats , money ,,, etc  but cannot connect to the EU World Server.

     

    Does anyone have the NA World Server ip addy.

    I want to run a tracert to see if I can connect, and see the hops.

     

     

    EDIT:

    Not sure if these are still valid from LO's support page, but I tried both Jericho and EU,
    and both timed out from tracert.

     

    https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/support/1/8

     

    Server IP addresses 

    Login: 173.195.32.254
    Jericho: 138.128.136.106
    Citadel: 5.200.20.2

     

  5. Posted · Edited by Westford

    24 minutes ago, Victoria97 said:

    can you speak in normal english so us noobs can understand the words coming out of your mouth?

    You managed to login into APB as FE? What is FE? 
    You can get on your acc as we can, but you own across any char you have?

    Conclusion..can you login Citadel APB or not? If its working for you maybe its client side issue not server side then. 
     

    Yeah, the only part I really understood was that GFAC needed more testing.

     

    I suppose I could try uninstalling and reinstalling GFAC again.

    Not sure how much effort I want to put into it this time around.

     

     

    EDIT:

    Ok, just for the heck of it , I completely uninstalled GFAC
    including removing Little Orbit registry entries,
    which forced a new GFAC install.

     

    Still cannot connect to NA World Server.

     

    I'll try again after Maintenance next week.

     

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  6. Posted · Edited by Westford

    2 hours ago, Toolmaker said:

    Are the servers online ,can't enter world disctict

    Been the same for me since Friday.

    After login, and selecting either NA or EU character, 

    message "Connecting to World Server" pops up, 

    then back to login screen.

     

    Tried again now on NA , same thing.

     

    I tried to select EU character, 

    no stats, no money no game time, 

    and the Next Button is greyed out.

     

  7. Posted

    28 minutes ago, Victoria97 said:

    i can connect to NA world server after successful login but i cant connect to EU world server. It looks like server doesn't exist. Like chars I choose don't even have their stats on, so playtime 0 hrs at each.
    It isnt client issue. Its server issue. Since otherwise I wouldn't be able to login into Jericho. 
    It seems when it comes to APB issues you and me always have identical problems. 

    @Westford

    I just tried again to connect to NA World Server after selecting my Westford character.

    Still not working.

     

    I also selected my EU character, and just like you no stats, no money no game time, 

    and the Next Button is greyed out.

     

    Very odd.

     

    I'm not going to bother opening a ticket this time.

    I'll try again after next weeks Maintenance.

     

  9. Posted

    GFAC, Sanctions & Stats


    On the 3/15/2025 AMA concerning the implementation of GFAC,
    the following was mentioned;

     

    Rules Engine: – Sanctions (Removing or Locking out Features)
    You had mentioned that players using 3rd party tools and have accrued “Cheat Points”
    would be pulled out of the primary pool of players for matchmaking,
    with the assumption being that they would then be matched up with other players
    who were also using 3rd party tools and had accrued “Cheat Points” .

    - Can you give some examples of what other features a player might be locked out from ?
    - What is the duration for these loss of features, or lockouts, and how does a
       player regain these features they lost ?

       (a player that does not use that “Sanctioned” account for 3 months
        would not be considered for any relief I am guessing)

    - Is the player notified that they will be locked out of these features,
      or is “no notification” a better and intended approach?

     

    STATS:
    You had mentioned that you were considering providing STATS on
    “Detections Identified” / “Sanctions Administered”


    Is this still under consideration, or have you made a final determination as to
    publishing this information to the player base ?
    -  If yes, where will it be published, and how often ?
    - If no, what led you to this decision ?

     

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  10. Posted · Edited by Westford

    Some things I learned while troubleshooting GFAC  after 10/10 Maintenance which included
    changes to GFAC.   (thanks to the LO Dev for their help)

     

    Anti-Virus Programs:


    I was still having problems launching the game as GFAC was not loading/updating properly.


    I wanted to start with a New Install of GFAC, so I used the following steps to force a New Install.

    (I do not believe this is necessary, but I did it anyways)

    Some people have mentioned just to run C:\Program Files\GFAC\Updater.exe instead and maybe

    C:\Program Files\GFAC\update\GFAC_Updater.exe

     

    uninstall GFAC (run the C:\Program Files\GFAC\uninst.exe) 
    - uninst.exe 
    - delete the C:\Program Files\GFAC directory 
    - Check the Registry Entries for and GFAC references
       - found the following GFAC references in the Registry 
       - Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SOFTWARE\Little_Orbit\GFAC 


    - Backup the Registry 
      - Highlight "Little Orbit" , right-click / Export to file 


    - Highlight "Little Orbit" , right-click / Delete
    Reboot Computer

     

    This will force a New Install of GFAC.

     

    Started APB Launcher
    GFAC Windows popup for new install.
    GFAC install completed
    Pressed Start
    Then Nothing  (no Game Launch)

     

    Disabled anti-virus (I use BitDefender)

     

    Started APB Launcher
    GFAC popup says updating GFAC
    Pressed Start

    APB Launcher disappears
    2nd GFAC popup Loading GFAC
    Game Started

     

    I added C:\Program Files\GFAC to 
    Bitdefender / Protection / Online Threat Prevention / Settings /Manage Exceptions / Add an Exception
    Then I added the C:\Program Files\GFAC folder

     

    Game was able to launch again with anti-virus running.

    I had also added the APB folder as an exception, but after more testing, proved that this was not needed, 
    and removed it form the anti-virus exceptions.
    D:\Program Files (x86)\GamersFirst\APB Reloaded


     

    But anti-virus programs ARE preventing GFAC from updating/running properly.

     

    Steam:
    APB is NOT part of my Steam Library, so this was a non issue for me.


    For those that have APB in their Steam Library, there were problems for those users running/updating GFAC.

    The quick solution for Steam users, was to close their Steam Client
    and this resolved their issue, and were able to launch the game.

     

    A more permanent solution for Steam users was the following:
    Make a shortcut for APB.exe -> right click the shortcut you created and go to properties. where it says "target" 
    add -nosteam behind the file path, should look something like this 


    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\APB Reloaded\Binaries\APB.exe" –nosteam

     

     

     


    One error that occurs is when the Game does launch,and you are at the login screen
    and see the following GFAC error.

     

    Yrr8Ela.jpeg

     

    I would suspect anti-virus blocking.

     

    I would completely disable the anti-virus program as you test this.
    If the anti-virus program is the cause, you can add the GFAC folder as an exception.
    For me, the APB folder was not an issue for the anti-virus.

     

    If anyone has any other working solutions, it would be great if you could add them here.

     

     

  12. Posted · Edited by Westford

    Wasn't sure if there was a maintenance period earlier today,

    but I wanted to post my results from running the APB Launcher today (13:33 EST)

     

    I am including the discrepancies between the GFAC Manifest file size,

    and the  C:\Program Files\GFAC file size.

     

    I also include the updater log for 10/09.

     

    upREDah.jpeg

     

     

    updater.log   (10/09)

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client starting...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Version: 1.0.0
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Channel: stable
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Install Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Log Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC\logs
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Registry-based logging: ENABLED
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Allow downgrades: ENABLED
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Force updates: DISABLED
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC installation...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] GFAC installation validation successful
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC services and drivers...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [WARNING] [] GFAC services/drivers validation failed: Missing GFAC services/drivers: GFAC_Sys driver
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Installed GFAC version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Installed GFAC build number: 28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Version comparison will use: 0.5.1 build 28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Cryptographic utilities initialized successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] FileUpdater initialized successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Install directory verified: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] GFACSvc already installed - no fallback installation needed
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Checking for updates and applying them...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Checking for updates from: https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/stable/manifest.json
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest downloaded successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Download time: 341ms
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest size: 12464 bytes
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest content preview: {

        "signature":  {

                          "timestamp":  "2025-09-27T03:07:59Z",

                          "public_key":  "MCowBQYDK2VwAyEAGb9ECWmEzf6FQbrBZ9w7lshQhqowtrbLDFw4rXAxZuE=",

              ...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Processing manifest JSON (12464 bytes)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest parsed successfully, version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [WARNING] [] Signature verification is disabled
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest verification completed successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Update manifest parsed and verified successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest build: 28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Files in manifest: 8
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: GFAC.dll (1022648 bytes, SHA256: b993a3d9bdc759f0...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: GFAC_Service.exe (278200 bytes, SHA256: 4cea9e0d9b5d3a02...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: GFAC_Launcher.exe (412856 bytes, SHA256: bd83409c4e67b1a2...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: GFAC_Sys_x64.sys (2216328 bytes, SHA256: 89d33e1646266348...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: GFAC_Updater.exe (194232 bytes, SHA256: 4342bed1150fa2e3...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: libcurl.dll (644792 bytes, SHA256: c45dc01748b0811f...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: libsodium.dll (354488 bytes, SHA256: cbcfe8fbf5ca3b8b...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] Manifest file: zlib1.dll (100536 bytes, SHA256: d7fb7c449d0f7559...)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] === Version Comparison Analysis ===
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Installed GFAC version: 0.5.1 build 28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest version: 0.5.1 build 28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Updater version: 1.0.0
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Allow downgrades: YES
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Version comparison: 0.5.1 vs 0.5.1 = SAME
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Build comparison: 28 vs 28 = SAME
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] ✓ NO UPDATE NEEDED: Already at the exact same version and build
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Current: 0.5.1.28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Manifest: 0.5.1.28
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] No update required - already at latest version (0.5.1)
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Update process completed successfully
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Performing final temp file cleanup before shutdown...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] Cleaning up leftover temporary files...
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [DEBUG] [] No leftover GFAC temporary files found
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] FileUpdater shutting down
    [2025-10-09 13:53:16] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client shutting down

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

     

     

  13. Posted

    On 10/8/2025 at 10:34 AM, MageLO said:

    Hello, as mentioned in the GFAC thread we're aware of the issue and have been working on a solution to this all of last week. Our internal goal is to deploy the solution with tomorrows maintenance.

    I did not see any announcement that Thursday's maintenance had been pushed back/delayed or was implemented.

    I assumed it happened, but just guessing.

     

    I have posted additional results in the main GFAC issues post concerning the GFAC updater results.

     

     

  14. Posted

    @MageLO, if you could ask the Dev Team what process should those players use that are having issues 

    launching the game because of the GFAC issues.

     

    a) Normal Operation

        - Start the APB Launcher, allow the GFAC update to complete

        - Press Start to enter the game

     

    b) Completely uninstall and remove ALL GFAC before starting the APB Launcher

         - run the C:\Program Files\GFAC\uninst.exe
         - delete the C:\Program Files\GFAC directory
         - Check the Registry Entries for any GFAC references 
            and delete Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SOFTWARE\Little_Orbit
         - Reboot the computer

         - Start the APB Launcher, allow the GFAC initial Install, then update to complete

     

    If the Dev Team believes that option "b" is unnecessary, then please let us know sometime tomorrow.

     

    Much appreciated

     

  15. Posted · Edited by Westford

    I said in a previous post, that I had exhausted all troubleshooting methods that were available to me.

    But, I just had to try one more thing.

     

    As an FYI, I see a lot of people saying to turn off anti-virus , Windows Defender, yaddy yadda, which I have in previous

    troubleshooting sessions.  No success.

    I also checked my anti-virus , Windows Defender in other troubleshooting sessions for any GFAC flagged exceptions.

    There were none.

    So I can confidently rule out anti-virus and Windows Defender and a contributor to this issue.

     

    Also, I have a continued back and forth with LO support, and I forwarded these findings to support earlier today.

     

    My current environment before troubleshooting steps:

    - GFAC is currently installed (Game does not launch after pressing start)

    - uninstall GFAC (run the C:\Program Files\GFAC\uninst.exe)

    - uninst.exe ran successfully

    - delete the C:\Program Files\GFAC directory

    - Check the Registry Entries for and GFAC references  ( I never did this before )

       - found the following GFAC references in the Registry

       - Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SOFTWARE\Little_Orbit\GFAC

     

    kMjJAVJ.jpeg

     

    - Backup the Registry

      - Highlight "Little Orbit" , right-click / Export to file

     

    - Reboot Computer

    - Check Registry for GFAC entry, Entry does not exist

    - Run APB Launcher, Message "GFAC Installation Required (This will be the 1st install of GFAC, not an update)

     

    yywRa6J.jpeg

     

    Then ---------

     

    rNqc6nm.jpeg

     

    - After what appears to be a successful GFAC install (no Error messages)
     

    - Check the Registry Entries for and newly added GFAC references 

       - found the following GFAC references in the Registry

       - Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SOFTWARE\Little_Orbit\GFAC

     

    MAvZOmZ.jpeg

     

    - Values are different than previous GFAC update attempts

    - Checked the C:\Program Files\GFAC\logs\updater.log    And Have not Pressed Start

    - Review the updater log file 

     

     

    updater.log

    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client starting...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Version: 1.0.0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Channel: stable
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Install Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Log Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC\logs
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Registry-based logging: ENABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Allow downgrades: ENABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Force updates: DISABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC installation...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] GFAC installation validation successful
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC services and drivers...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] GFAC services/drivers validation failed: Missing GFAC services/drivers: GFACSvc service, GFAC_Sys driver
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] Could not determine installed GFAC version from registry
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] No installed GFAC version found, using default: 0.0.0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] No installed GFAC build number found, using default: 0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Version comparison will use: 0.0.0 build 0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Cryptographic utilities initialized successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] FileUpdater initialized successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Install directory verified: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] GFACSvc not found on system - installing as fallback to ensure game functionality
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] Registry InstallPath not found, using fallback detection
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] GFACSvc installed successfully as fallback
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Checking for updates and applying them...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Checking for updates from: https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/stable/manifest.json
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Manifest downloaded successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Download time: 249ms
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Manifest size: 12464 bytes
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [DEBUG] [] Manifest content preview: {

        "signature":  {

                          "timestamp":  "2025-09-27T03:07:59Z",

                          "public_key":  "MCowBQYDK2VwAyEAGb9ECWmEzf6FQbrBZ9w7lshQhqowtrbLDFw4rXAxZuE=",

              ...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Processing manifest JSON (12464 bytes)
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Manifest parsed successfully, version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] Signature verification is disabled
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [ERROR] [] Current version 0.0.0 below minimum required 0.0.1
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [ERROR] [] Version compatibility check failed
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [ERROR] [] Manifest verification failed: Version compatibility check failed
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [DEBUG] [] Manifest JSON content: {

        "signature":  {

                          "timestamp":  "2025-09-27T03:07:59Z",

                          "public_key":  "MCowBQYDK2VwAyEAGb9ECWmEzf6FQbrBZ9w7lshQhqowtrbLDFw4rXAxZuE=",

                          "signature":  "placeholder_signature_to_be_replaced_by_signing_process",

                          "signer":  "GFAC Release Engineering",

                          "algorithm":  "Ed25519"

                      },

        "manifest":  {

                         "version":  "0.5.1",

                        
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [WARNING] [] Update process failed or no updates available
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Performing final temp file cleanup before shutdown...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] Cleaning up leftover temporary files...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [DEBUG] [] No leftover GFAC temporary files found
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] FileUpdater shutting down
    [2025-10-08 15:38:08] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client shutting down
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client starting...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Version: 1.0.0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Channel: stable
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Install Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Log Directory: C:\Program Files\GFAC\logs
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Registry-based logging: ENABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Allow downgrades: ENABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Force updates: DISABLED
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC installation...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] GFAC installation validation successful
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC services and drivers...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [WARNING] [] GFAC services/drivers validation failed: Missing GFAC services/drivers: GFAC_Sys driver
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [WARNING] [] Could not determine installed GFAC version from registry
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] No installed GFAC version found, using default: 0.0.0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] No installed GFAC build number found, using default: 0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Version comparison will use: 0.0.0 build 0
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Cryptographic utilities initialized successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] FileUpdater initialized successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Install directory verified: C:\Program Files\GFAC
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] GFACSvc already installed - no fallback installation needed
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Checking for updates and applying them...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Checking for updates from: https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/stable/manifest.json
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Manifest downloaded successfully
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Download time: 187ms
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Manifest size: 12464 bytes
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [DEBUG] [] Manifest content preview: {

        "signature":  {

                          "timestamp":  "2025-09-27T03:07:59Z",

                          "public_key":  "MCowBQYDK2VwAyEAGb9ECWmEzf6FQbrBZ9w7lshQhqowtrbLDFw4rXAxZuE=",

              ...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Processing manifest JSON (12464 bytes)
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Manifest parsed successfully, version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [WARNING] [] Signature verification is disabled
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [ERROR] [] Current version 0.0.0 below minimum required 0.0.1
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [ERROR] [] Version compatibility check failed
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [ERROR] [] Manifest verification failed: Version compatibility check failed
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [DEBUG] [] Manifest JSON content: {

        "signature":  {

                          "timestamp":  "2025-09-27T03:07:59Z",

                          "public_key":  "MCowBQYDK2VwAyEAGb9ECWmEzf6FQbrBZ9w7lshQhqowtrbLDFw4rXAxZuE=",

                          "signature":  "placeholder_signature_to_be_replaced_by_signing_process",

                          "signer":  "GFAC Release Engineering",

                          "algorithm":  "Ed25519"

                      },

        "manifest":  {

                         "version":  "0.5.1",

                        
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [WARNING] [] Update process failed or no updates available
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Performing final temp file cleanup before shutdown...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] Cleaning up leftover temporary files...
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [DEBUG] [] No leftover GFAC temporary files found
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] FileUpdater shutting down
    [2025-10-08 15:38:10] [INFO] [] GFAC Update Client shutting down

    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

     

     

    I wanted to provide a clean install updater.log file, 

    as all the other times, GFAC would just run an update, since it checks the Registry 1st,

    to see if this is "an update" or a 1st time install.

     

    Anyways, I look forward to tomorrows maintenance, and the possibility after almost 3 weeks of no San Paro, 

    to finally enter District, and prevent the Unauthorized use of Municipal Vehicles.

     

     

     

  16. Posted

    5 hours ago, MageLO said:

    Hello, as mentioned in the GFAC thread we're aware of the issue and have been working on a solution to this all of last week. Our internal goal is to deploy the solution with tomorrows maintenance.

    Thank you @MageLO for the update.

    I will pray that your internal goal to deploy the solution tomorrow is successful.

     

    I tried one last troubleshooting effort, and will post my results in the Main GFAC thread to avoid any confusion.

     

     

     

  17. Posted · Edited by Westford

    19 hours ago, Victoria97 said:

    @MageLO
    Ok so am I the only one with this sudden problem or there are other people experiencing this annoying thing as well?
    After researching almost entire day, re installing APB entirely, re installing GFAC and clicking repairs like crazy the issue persist.
    Each time I try to start APB it gives me Blue screen of death (BSOD) with the error messages

    Stop code: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

    What failed: GFAC_Sys_x64.sys

     

    I did next steps:

    1) I ran commands in cmd sfc /scannow and DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

    2)I ran mdsched.exe

    3) I white listed both GFAC and EAC in my anti virus and firewall
    4) I disabled Deep Behavior Inspection temporarily
    5) I re installed EAC



    My event log confirmed next:
    “LSA package is not signed as expected. This can cause unexpected behavior with Credential Guard. PackageName: negoexts.”

    and also mentions “Virtualization Based Security for Credential Guard auto enablement status.”

    These refer to Windows’ security subsystem (LSA — Local Security Authority) and VBS (Virtualization-Based Security).

    Now, I know that Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) operates very close to kernel level, the same privileged layer that Credential Guard and VBS use.
    So when LSA / Credential Guard report signature or compatibility issues, it often means EAC tried to hook into protected memory, which Windows 11’s security system blocked or crashed instead of allowing.

    That fits perfectly with my BugCheck 0x50 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.

     

    Am I on the good track? 
    My question is also why is Easy Anti-Cheat still coming with APB install package? If we all agreed to use GFAC? 
    Are there any players here experiencing this same error?

     

    You are not the only one.

     

    I too spent a few days troubleshooting, reinstalling, ran Memory Checker, sfcannow, disabled anti-virus,  only to be greeted with the 

    BSOD - 

    Stop code: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

    What failed: GFAC_Sys_x64.sys

     

    Many people on LO Discord commented on this same issue.

    It appears to be a discrepancy with GFAC file versioning that has/is being deployed.

     

    On 10/7/2025 at 8:45 AM, Westford said:

    I wanted to share my latest email I submitted to LO support for my support ticket I opened

    on Sept 26 concerning the GFAC error's, and the inability to launch the game.

     

     

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Some interesting information to share.

     

    I was discussing this GFAC issue with another APB player on 

    Little Orbit's Discord, and they mention that I need to get a working copy of the following 

    two files;

     

    GFAC.dll - 997.68k

    GFAC_Sys_x64.sys - 2.11MB

     

    I looked at the file size of those two files in my C:\Program Files\GFAC, 

    and there are as follows;

     

    GFAC.dll - 999k

    GFAC_Sys_x64.sys - 2.11MB


    I re-downloaded the GFAC.dll from the "manifest.json" URL you sent me.

    https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/updates/0.5.1.28/GFAC.dll

     

    And the file size again for GFAC.dll was 999k.

     

    So the person on the Discord channel has a different version of the GFAC.dll, 

    than I do, and his game is working.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

     

     

    So it appears that for that individual on Discord that is not having a problem launching the game, 

    he has a different version of the GFAC.dll than I have.

     

    The full manifest to manually download the files that LO support provided for me is here.

     

    https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/stable/manifest.json

     

     

    I understand the dev team is working on this, and is having a difficult time chasing this down.

    I hope they have made some progress, and will be releasing a patch release for GFAC soon.

     

     

     

    LO has been pretty quiet so far concerning this issue, the last official word was posted last Thursday by MageLO.

     

    Some comments from Discord is there is a noticeable drop in population since the GFAC 1.0 release.

     

    Is this because a fair portion of players are experiencing the same issue with GFAC (BSOD)  and cannot start the game, 

    as apposed to the initial thought that only a "handful of players" are having this issue ?

     

    Or...

     

    Is the GFAC 1.0 release that effective, and many players that did not support fair gameplay gave up their cheating ways

    and just left the game ?

     

    For me, and I am sure quite a few others, have not been able to launch the game for over 2 weeks.

    I have exhausted all troubleshooting methods that I have available to me, and will wait patiently for LO to provide a fix.

     

     

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  18. Posted · Edited by Westford

    I wanted to share my latest email I submitted to LO support for my support ticket I opened

    on Sept 26 concerning the GFAC error's, and the inability to launch the game.

     

     

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Some interesting information to share.

     

    I was discussing this GFAC issue with another APB player on 

    Little Orbit's Discord, and they mention that I need to get a working copy of the following 

    two files;

     

    GFAC.dll - 997.68k

    GFAC_Sys_x64.sys - 2.11MB

     

    I looked at the file size of those two files in my C:\Program Files\GFAC, 

    and there are as follows;

     

    GFAC.dll - 999k

    GFAC_Sys_x64.sys - 2.11MB


    I re-downloaded the GFAC.dll from the "manifest.json" URL you sent me.

    https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/updates/0.5.1.28/GFAC.dll

     

    And the file size again for GFAC.dll was 999k.

     

    So the person on the Discord channel has a different version of the GFAC.dll, 

    than I do, and his game is working.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

     

     

    So it appears that for that individual on Discord that is not having a problem launching the game, 

    he has a different version of the GFAC.dll than I have.

     

    The full manifest to manually download the files that LO support provided for me is here.

     

    https://gfac.gamersfirst.com/stable/manifest.json

     

     

    I understand the dev team is working on this, and is having a difficult time chasing this down.

    I hope they have made some progress, and will be releasing a patch release for GFAC soon.

     

     

  21. Posted · Edited by Westford

    4 hours ago, Jilleroo said:

    Touch some grass or something; this game isn't worth getting mad about.

    Myself, and many others, have not been able to play APB since the GFAC 1.0 release.

    Tried all of the troubleshooting methods that have been suggested.

     

    Even got the proverbial BSOD blue screen a few times.

    (this was a generic screen shot, my msg on the blue screen was 

    "Page fault in nonpaged area" error

     

    2UMaMlb.jpeg

     

     

    Ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic - Check, no issues

    Ran the chkdsk <driveletter>: /f /r - Check  (took 3hrs) fixed some issues

    Ran DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth - Check

    Ran sfc /scannow - Check   (1st time no issues, 2nd time after 4th GFAC install found issues and fixed)

     

    During this process in trying to get APB to run, I would experiencing some issues that the following tools fixed, 

    but would reappear after uninstalling  / reinstalling GFAC.

     

    Back to square one.

    Ran the diag tools again to fix the issues again, until I got a clean run.

     

    Updated all drivers.

    Windows 10 Pro is up to date at 22H2

    Did not resolve the GFAC issue.

     

    I then went outside to touch grass.
    Thanks @Jilleroo for the suggestion.

     

    I noticed that the grass needed to be cut.

    I cut the grass.

    And then watched the grass grow for 7 days, while I waited for the GFAC 1.01 patch release.

     

    I will probably cut the grass again tomorrow.

     

     

    EDIT:

    To update all the drivers, I used a tool called "Snappy Driver Installer Origin" 

    https://memstechtips.com/install-missing-drivers-windows-snappy-driver-installer-origin/

     

    I've used this tool in the past, open source, and works quite well.

    Alternatively, go to the manufactures website for your computer, 
    or if hybrid, the Motherboards website to manually install the drivers.

     

    Create a System Restore Point !! before updating drivers.

     

     

     

     

     

    EDIT (2):

    Another thing to look at, is from the Windows Crash Dump after the BSOD  blue screen.

     

    I used an open source tool called "BlueScreenView"  - https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

    My result when inspecting the BSOD dump files after;

    - uninstalling GFAC

    - Starting APB Launcher

    - Running APB repair

    - then BSOD  blue screen

    - Was able to reboot with no additional problems

     

    IYNgPjM.jpeg

     

     

    Two files marked in red seem to be the issue.

    ntoskrnl.exe

    win32kfull.sys

     

    Tomorrow, I might watch some paint dry.

     

     

     

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  22. Posted

    4 hours ago, MageLO said:

    Hello everybody,

     

    This post is to inform you all that we're aware of an ongoing issue causing a small amount of players to receive a corrupt version of the newest GFAC driver. We've been working around the clock to address this issue and believe we have a working fix that we can deploy in the next couple of hours. 

     

    We want to sincerely apologize about this - Blue screens should never happen in a production environment.

    Appreciate the update.

    Can you post here in the forum when the update has been released, and best way to install.

    (I'm assuming just start the Launcher)

     

    Thanks 

  23. Posted

    Unfortunately this update did not fix my GFAC issue.

    Unable to start the game.

     

    Waiting patiently for the GFAC 1.01 patch release.

     

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    [2025-10-01 11:29:08] [INFO] [] GFAC installation validation successful
    [2025-10-01 11:29:08] [INFO] [] Validating GFAC services and drivers...
    [2025-10-01 11:29:08] [WARNING] [] GFAC services/drivers validation failed: Missing GFAC services/drivers: GFAC_Sys driver
    [2025-10-01 11:29:08] [INFO] [] Installed GFAC version: 0.5.1
    [2025-10-01 11:29:08] [INFO] [] Installed GFAC build number: 28

    /snip

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

     

     

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