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12 minutes ago, Hexerin said:Case in point. The fact that you have to ask that shows that you're ignorant to the problems the mod has.
One might interpret your response as a deflection to @EC2Jonathan 's question.
I would be curious @Hexerin as to your suggestions on improving this mod.
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I might assume that the;
2v2
4v4
works so well for many, is that these are typically premade groups,
and as such, are using voice comms where tactics/strategies can excel.
When you get 2 or even 4 more on each side,
the advantages of the premade and voice comms probably suffers, since in a 8v8,
there is going to be 4 additional team members that are probably PUB randoms
and are not part of the original team/group voice comms.
I can see how the original tactics/strategies might suffer a bit
since the additional team members are "not on board" so to speak as they are not part of the voice comms.
EDIT:
I actually like the larger type chaos that the 6v6, 8v8 brings.
It's going to be challenging for LO to please everyone in this instance,as some prefer the smaller teams whereas others prefer the larger.
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43 minutes ago, a Pair of Socks said:Missing the 7 times it happened yesterday so I will just update this one from now on every time it happens :^)
Happened againNot sure how relevant this is , or if it helps.
"Error Code 10004 (The account is currently in use from another client)"
Restart ur internet router and PC, should work.
Edit// Or wait 30min might work too sometimes."
Source:Also a List of Error codes posted from 2018.
And ....
Hope you get this resolved without having to submit a ticket and waiting for a response.
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3 hours ago, raging said:When will some one approve my post's\replies.. You let ^this tool post (even though we members of Jericho have to put up with his constant district chat spamming "MCD on top" or his recruitment spamming yet i cant even get one related reply or comment approved so my opinion can be heard... god please approve me so i can tell this member of our community to Shhhh..
Let me be the first to welcome you not only to the game, but also to the forum.
EDIT:
BTW, MCD has tried unsuccessfully to recruit me to his clan many times.But I turned him down. and not because I did not like the McDonalds uniform.
I had joined a different clan called "Municipal Vehicle Enforcement"
We are responsible for stopping the unauthorized use of Municipal Vehicles in the city of San Paro.
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12 hours ago, Ardita said:They already said they wont give out players who gets banned.
Next people will ask for general numbers of players who got banned.
Then, can we believe the data?
Endless No-Go from the community.
Well Matt did say he was considering posting Generic Stats.. ie
Number of Detections Identified / Sanctions Administered
So nothing specific or identifying.As far as, "can we believe the Stats that are posted",
that question was also raised in a previous post.
My thoughts are that if we cannot trust LO providing accurate Stats, how can we trust that
the patch notes are accurate.
So many questions.
Time for another AMA .... ?
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7 hours ago, Yapopal said:Hurray! There aren't two speedhack jerks in the game anymore! What a blessing! It's a pity, of course, that there are 100 smarter jerks left with other means of gaining advantage in the game. Everything is legal, everyone is happy... How annoying this stupidity is...
Ok, if that's not "words of encouragement" , than I don't know what is ...
Thank you
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10 minutes ago, AquaSensei said:Is the mouse okay? I mean i got like 8 extra if ya need. And NA Jericho just got taken down for some fixs i believe.
Ya gotta love Logitech...
EditL
I should have included my specs:
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz 3.70 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB
Storage 932 GB SSD Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB, 932 GB SSD Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER (8 GB)
System Type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Windows 10
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4 minutes ago, AquaSensei said:I found gfac launch to be very good on my side, and game ran alot smoother. Was a solid 40ms in districts.
PS: NA Jericho had some ddos attacks as packetloss was haywire but i guess some arnt so happy with the changes.
NA confirm disconnect.
20:21 EST
Tried to loggin
Error code 0000something 8
I figured a network problem.
Rebooted, Loggin screen passed
Prompt for 2FA code
Entered
Error - Message was like game is down ,,, will be up momentarily
Sorry, wasn't paying attention much after I slammed my Mouse into the wall.
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1 hour ago, sweetLemonade said:A small reminder that kernel-level anti-cheat solutions will not solve the problem this game has.
There are also two Server components to the GFAC anti-cheat, if you think that might make a difference.
The only solution to cheating is in-game moderation to take care off the blatants & separating casuals from competitive crowd with a separate queue (a pledgable contact or a separate, empty district for competitive matches)Agreed
If someone tries to pull the "oh it's a long-term solution" excuse... I fail to understand how implementing GFAC in this version of the game is a good long-term solution.Well, anything is better than what we currently have, which is nothing, would you agree ?
Instead of the wasted effort on GFAC (a fatal, user security & privacy issue, as well as a system performance hog),
I was not aware that GFAC was a "fatal, user security & privacy issue, as well as a system performance hog"
Are you sure about that, or is this just your opinion ?
Is your opinion than all Anti Cheats that use kernel level system monitoring have these issues ?
Sorry, just trying to clarify between opinions & facts.
it would've been more appropriate to fix the >120fps sliding bug, implementing a waitable timer frametime limiter and doing something worthwhile to gameplay mechanics (district layout balancing, mission balancing, eliminating RNG from weapons, implementing anti-griefing solutions such as the one mentioned above etc.) or the UI (allowing for 3 FC's, fixing misleading crosshair representation, using explicit & numeric values for weapon statistics in-game, making a proper tutorial, VOIP...)
I have always been of the opinion that "fair gameplay: would be a number one priority,as any changes regarding intermittent performance issues, additional content, matchmaking ... etc .. etc would
still not be a "healthy & prosperous" game without fair gameplay as the mainstay part of the game.
I mean without fair gameplay, who is actually benefiting from those changes that you suggest ?
If you you keep losing legit players, I feel like the players that are left are just cheaters to enjoy the changes that you feel are most important.I don't know, maybe your right.
I wouldn't be surprised if, with the GFAC implementation, you've also indirectly removed any potential W7 users from this game.
Yes, W7 is still a viable option for games employing the D3D9 graphics API, such as APB, as Microsoft has crippled D3D9 on W10 due to their "borderless" attempts.
Or you could always upgrade the graphics API to D3D12 or employ DXVKYou are not seriously supporting the continued use of Windows 7 ?
For Steam users, Windows 7, 8 & 8.1 support ended January 1 2024
Kind of curious if some of these older Operating Systems are more forgiving when injecting .Dll's
Anywho, I am conservatively optimistic with this Tailored Anti Cheat.
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19 minutes ago, MACKxBOLAN said:Maybe. Will it work, and if so, how long till they bypass it.
I'm not trying to throw salt, I hope it works.
At least putting a dent, will reduce the amount of blatant cheaters.
True.
I'm sure whatever process is used to bypass the other client side AC's
will be used with this.
But Matt did say that there are also 2 server side components.
So we'll see.
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Was greeted with the GFAC client install window this morning.
Don't forget to post some STATS
I feel like "Fair Gameplay" is within reach...
maybe.
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1 hour ago, Victoria97 said:Thank you! See that wasn't so hard. Finally a good enough explanation which needed to be said out loud, instead of just remaining silent about everything. Now we can wait in peace.
Hear Hear !!
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44 minutes ago, MageLO said:This maintenance does not include GFAC or any of the other Anniversary patch items. We're making solid progress working through the issues internally and will share more news in the hopefully near future.
Appreciate the quick response.
Looking forward to future updates.
Cheers.
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31 minutes ago, MageLO said:Hello everybody,
Our standard weekly maintenance will be held this Wednesday (07/09) starting at 9 AM UTC. The game should be back up and running in 4 to 6 hours.
Thank you for your patience.
Will this be including the delayed GFAC implementation ?
Or is that still on hold ?
Thanks.
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Appreciate the update.
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1 hour ago, Uhtdred said:anticheat working? please tell me it's enabled.
Matt did mention in the "Back In the Streets" AMA
that he is considering providing “some” AntiCheat stats on a regular basis
Keeping it high level, potentially just Number of Detection's Identified & Number of Sanctions Administered.Might have to pose this question on LO's discord, as there seems to be more
of a fluent communication stream there.
However they decide to communicate this, I'm sure any news concerning these stats would be encouraging.
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3 hours ago, BlatMan said:Will this kernel level anti-cheat run in userspace on Linux? I don't trust an in-house kernel driver, mainly from a system stability standpoint. I was one of many who had to fix servers when Crowdstrike released that broken driver.
Removal of instantly getting into blocked doors is going to feel really awkward. Why bother? I guess fixing things that didn't need fixing is to be expected, and this is why I don't trust your kernel driver.
"Trust".... is a fickle beast they say.
I remember the discussion of "Trust" came up in the last AMA questionnaire for "Back to the Streets" update in March.
On 3/10/2025 at 4:12 AM, vsb said:if you don’t trust that the devs are banning cheaters, why would you trust that the devs would post legitimate ban statistics?
- Why would we trust that the devs are identifying and banning cheaters ?
- Why would we trust the patch notes are accurate ?
- Why would we trust 3rd Party Anti Cheat implementations are working ?
- Why would we Trust that an in house developed anti cheat will be effective ?
- Why would we Trust a client side in house developed anti cheat kernel will be safe ?
I think for many of us that have hung in there over the years, we all realize that it was
not just "lack of content" or "performance" that drove many players away.
It's unfortunate, but "Cheaters" ruin the gaming experience for all players.
And many of us who have been here since Punkbusters was around,
also know that the 3rd party Anti Cheat efforts were not the doing best.
- Punkbusters
- Fairfight
- Battleeye
- Easy AntiCheat
- SA....... (never mind)
One might assume that APB, being an older game was not high on the
list of priorities for Anti Cheat makers to make whatever updates were needed for APBin a timely fashion.
/sigh
So yeah, I'm ok with an in house developed anti cheat.
Why not ?
They know the game code.
They know specifically what data to capture.
Cost effective.
Regular updates, cause.. why not.
Will we lose some "Legit Players" cause of this ?
Maybe.
Will we lose players that do not support fair gameplay with their use of 3rd party tools to gain an advantage ?
Probably.
And I am ok with that.
Myself, and I am sure many others, just want "fair" gameplay.
What has NOT worked in the past, more than likely will not work in the future.
So why not try something different.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"
Namaste...
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Since the anti-cheat "topic" has come up..
Can you provide a status update on the "GamersFirst Technology Platform" initiative ?
This platform, as was earlier described , was going to include the in-house developed anti-cheat.
How is the progress, good news ?
Many of us are still hanging in there .
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3 hours ago, Ardita said:You are free to go, I don’t assume anyone keeping you here against your own will.
speaking about insanity, that’s also somehow barking at a “sandbox for cheaters” forum and not playing the game yourself or being a part of it.
Einstein can get credit for that too if you likeI wouldn't be too harsh with @Dead_Game 's sentiments.
He has a point.
If we were to walk down memory lane for a bit, Little Orbit acquired APB (Gamersfirst)
back in May of 2018.
7 Years.
Yeah, I let that sink in a bit before I reflected on some of the direct,
and even indirect messaging in those 7 years.
Hmm, 2 unban waves.
The clear message from Matt Scott that "We will not ban cheaters"
opened up the flood gates, metaphorically speaking,
and a definite "gut punch" for those players that just wanted "Fair Gameplay".
I get it... battling cheaters can be viewed as "no win situation" ,
constant and never ending for the Game Co.
Not sure I agree with LO's decision for the 2 unban waves and the messaging concerning cheaters.
And here we are...
7 years later, having the same discussion as we did in 2010, 2014, 2016.....
Was curious how many Legit Players "threw in the towel", and went to the "DARK side",
just to get some "Fair Gameplay".
I mean, they won't be banned, so that's a plus.
I don't play many missions as much as I used to, but I do like the driving the cars.
Was chasing this one Foxy speedhacker the other night, in my car.
Couldn't catch her.
And she certainly wasn't hiding it.
Looking forward to the June update, for this year, 2025.
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On 5/24/2025 at 2:22 PM, Weaboos said:Wasn't it DogFish from BitFenix aka BitPenis and not DopeFish tho?
I may be wrong with the name, it was so long ago.
But yeah, I also heard that this individual had claimed that their account was hacked by someone in russia,
and that that person was also in tight with a few GM's.
At that time, it was all about "who you know" when it came to APB justice.
Fortunately times have changed, when umm, unban waves are a thing, and cheaters can play
with more or less impunity.
I am still somewhat optimistic that in the near future, fair gameplay will be a priority,
Even if that means LO releasing their Premium Tier Aimbot/Wall hack for
unrestricted use in game.
Then, everyone will be playing on a level playing field.
I can't wait.
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4 hours ago, Ardita said:Was that reversed based on loud disagreement from the community or they actually found that false ban?
Not saying that I ever said Dope was cheating, but I mean I never saw them change their opinion when they banned people back then, now is a different story.
-Ban hammer slamming hard
Not sure of all the details, or what led to the ban reversal.
Yes, the community for the most part were supportive of Dope's claim that his account was hacked.
And you are right, ban reversals were very rare under G1.
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32 minutes ago, Weaboos said:Yeah it's nothing to joke about, even worse for the legendary weapons where you couldn't directly buy them at the time and had to gamble them from scam boxes. Some people had to spend hundreds to get those, really scummy tactics by G1. But people couldn't have been so naive not to expect a weapon that's clearly too strong and everybody is abusing not to get fixed.
Heh I remember dopefish doing nano only missions back when you could snipe people from 70 m with it and outgun primary weapons in cqc
I remember when Dopefish was banned... although reversed after some time.
A Russian Agent they said.
Hell, I believed it.
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4 minutes ago, Weaboos said:I remember people defending every single one of those weapons, Nano, Yukon, Trouble Maker - you name it xD
I mean, 1500-2000 G1C was nothing to sneeze about.
They sure as hell didn't want there weapon to hit the G1 "chopping block".
But eventually, they all did.
Rinse & Repeat my friend... Rinse & Repeat.
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1 minute ago, Weaboos said:I think it took them 9 months to finally fix nano
Haha...
There were trying to cash in I'm guessing.
You remember the responses of those players that bought these OP weapons only to be nerfed to uselessness.
They WERE pissed.
Haha
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Kevlar 3 Needs Buff
in Social District (General Discussion)
Posted
Oh..
That's unfortunate.
With Hexerin's obvious knowledge of the game and the underlying mechanics,
many of us were hoping that he could provide some suggestions on improving this mod.
But if he is dying to it a lot, I can see why he see's this mod as a problem.
On a different note,
I noticed what appears to be a "Quarter Pounder w/ Cheese" and a Large Fry in your signature.
Good choice !!