please don't give up MattScott

[Lign 361]

8 minutes ago, Saxtus said:

And the rest wait for a G1C discount.

I would donate for two permanents if it happens.

20$ is still huge for old game especially for a Russian player like me

Edited April 4, 2019 by Lign

[CookiePuss 5382]

9 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said:

"

APB Engine Upgrade

I know this is the update everyone is waiting for. and we are nearing completion of the engine upgrade. The SPCT has seen the good, the bad, and the ugly for the last couple months. According to last year's Roadmap, I wanted to get the new engine into the hands of players on OTW in February, but we hit a fairly significant snag in the Multithreaded Rendering code. Ultimately, we scrapped what was there and completely re-wrote it. We now have most of that working, but there is some work to consolidate code between PS4 and XB1/PC. The only other major task is to migrate all the content from 1.19 and RIOT mode, which has already started. As soon as that is done, I will post some screenshots, benchmarks, and timing for public tests."

 

"Internally I felt that if we launched the engine upgrade but then took 4-6 months to build out a major new piece of content that would be a mistake. It's going to take a little more time to tackle matchmaking, new core gameplay contacts / progression, and a big F2P initiative that I want to roll out."

"

I have an entire deep dive blog on RIOT coming as soon as the ARG ends. It will include full details on the mode, the seasonal reward structure, and even some upcoming regular gameplay meta changes.

As always, we appreciate your ongoing support and are eager to share more.

Thanks,
Matt"

 

From the quarter review probably...

Yeah, "wanted".

That's not a deadline.

And nothing about RIOT being released last Wednesday either.

Did you maybe quote the wrong stuff?

 

1 hour ago, Lign said:

 I know about 20-30 players who haven’t donated once in 3 years

Man, I hope my friends arent such moochers.

[Kevkof 806]

51 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

And nothing about RIOT being released last Wednesday either.

Did you maybe quote the wrong stuff?

That's mentioned in this post. But that was just when they wanted to originally release it, the only official wording on that was in the Listening to the Community blog post where it was written as: 

 

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In March, we are going to be launching a new game mode. We are excited to share more with you about this in the coming weeks. This will unlock a completely new persistent mode that has contacts and rewards that we will be rotating out on a regular basis. After that, we will be introducing new contacts with more in-game progression items when we launch the big engine upgrade.

 

[CookiePuss 5382]

2 minutes ago, Kevkof said:

That's mentioned in this post. But that was just when they wanted to originally release it, the only official wording on that was in the Listening to the Community blog post where it was written as: 

 

 

Oof... yeah maybe we should be pissed then.

[Lato 188]

I still don't get why they can't just copy from bigger games. Armas marketplaces is the only thing keeping this game alive but it's also killing it.

People would rather grind for the weapon and spend money for the skins. Armas kills the grind and of course gives new players a bad look cause they come up with the p2w thing.

 

Joker store and joker missions in action districts need to be reworked. 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Lato

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

12 hours ago, Hey! said:

LO buys the game.  LO throws out the anticheat and installs one that has been bypassed for years.  LO granst an amnesty for all banned cheaters... including those banned multiple times across multiple accounts... and lets them keep all their ill-gotten gains, in-game purchased legendaries. 

Player population shows a moderate surge quickly followed by a nosedive plummet coinciding with the usual "infested with cheater" posts.
Jericho server goes into death throes.

LO begins to merge Citadel with RU Nekrova.  Citadel population begins to plummet.

Support tickets are backed up for months.  We receive regular updates promising the world and delivering nothing.
LO claims the horribad server performance is due to some fanatical and relentless DDOSers.... despite the fact regular server maintenance seems nonexistent.
LO lowers the ARMAS pricing and increases the G1c for an approximate gain of 12%... despite the server performance tanking, the population falling off the map... and the ever-present reroll cheaterbase playing as usual.

LO reveals a NEW Battle Royal game which promises to fail before it's even implemented.

What's to give up?  This game is a gem.  Everything LO has done to date indicates they don't know this game's appeal or it's playerbase. They tried to mess up the guns.  They barely lowered Armas prices.  There is no "Engine Upgrade."  No one wanted RU players, unbanned cheaters, or a bypassed anticheat that may have been effective 5 years ago. There is no future for this game... hence there is nothing to give up.

If LO could find the original RTW code and SERVER WIPE, and relaunch the game like new, WITH a decent anticheat PLUS a team of in-game GMs... there MIGHT be a chance... but it ain't happening, and so... this game... is dead.
 

Cos in 2019 paying $30 for a pixel gun in a dead game is such a good business strategy.

Still hurts bro.

 

Apart of all that, i sold most of the weapon with the apb$ i farmed for years, thinking that everything would go down and that i at least i will have a gun that worths (yukon)... and they nerf it.

 

Inb4 "is your fault" and spunzabob bans me again for typing this.

Edited April 4, 2019 by SillyBear

[CookiePuss 5382]

43 minutes ago, SillyBear said:

thinking that everything would go down and that i at least i will have a gun that worths (yukon)... and they nerf it.

the official terminology is "fixed", not "nerfed"

 

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

1 minute ago, CookiePuss said:

the official terminology is "fixed", not "nerfed"

 

Why not nerfixed?

[CookiePuss 5382]

24 minutes ago, SillyBear said:

Why not nerfixed?

Honestly the whole thing was based on the weapon description.

The Unique mod didnt say anything about increased RoF over the other Mounties, so they nerfed (fixed) RoF.

Then myself and some others pointed out that the unique mod on the Ogre didnt say anything about increased RoF over the standard NFAS-12.... but apparently thats ok.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by CookiePuss

[BrandonBranderson 672]

13 hours ago, Hey! said:

-snip-

Pretty much everything that you mentioned here can be disproven or better explained with a quick look over the forums and not just hearing what you want to hear (besides the weapon balance, that just didn't go very well).  You claim BE isn't working, but do you remember the state that APB was in before BattleEye?  FF was banning legits and cheaters were reaching endgame with a speed-hacker in every match.

 

13 hours ago, Hey! said:

Support tickets are backed up for months.  We receive regular updates promising the world and delivering nothing.
LO claims the horribad server performance is due to some fanatical and relentless DDOSers.... despite the fact regular server maintenance seems nonexistent.
LO lowers the ARMAS pricing and increases the G1c for an approximate gain of 12%... despite the server performance tanking, the population falling off the map... and the ever-

What haven't they delivered on yet?  They're making good progress on their original roadmap but hit a few snags here and there.  Game development is unpredictable, especially with the well laid out mess of a game that they started with.

 

You mean like the scheduled server maintenance every Wednesday? They're also working on a solution to the DDOS.  You can't just straight up block it, but it can be mitigated, which they're trying to improve.

 

They REDUCED the price of G1C by 20% (400 G1C used to be $5.  Now 500 G1C is $5) as well as reducing the cost of pretty much everything on Armas.  What used to be a $30 gun is now around $12.

 

Why do you feel the need to only focus on negatives, most of which were completely made up?  You're ignoring the fact that they've done more good for this game in one year than G1 did in four.  Not only that, but they saved it from permanent death.  I can't imagine what having your attitude toward everything is like, because no doubt it isn't just limited to APB.

 

13 hours ago, Hey! said:

If LO could find the original RTW code and SERVER WIPE, and relaunch the game like new, WITH a decent anticheat PLUS a team of in-game GMs... there MIGHT be a chance... but it ain't happening, and so... this game... is dead.

Rose tinted glasses my friend.  You don't even know how broken the game used to be.  As much as I hate to admit it, G1 actually improved the stability of the game over the years.  It used to crash constantly.  Not only that but they also made a lot of quality of life and gameplay improvements like doubling the jump height and turning Upgrades into the colored Mods we know today.  Back in RTW they didn't have downsides.

[Nanometic 265]

 

[Westford 167]

16 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

Also I am just going to state this again so when I am right I can tell everyone "I told you so."

Engine update will be the death of APB.

 

I am curious why you believe that the upgrade to UE 3.5 would be the death of APB (PC version) ?

 

I know that RTW created a bunch of custom code to compensate for the lack of features .. etc with UE 3

 

Do you believe that with UE 3.5 we will lose some of these features ?

 

I have read here, that w/ UE 3.5, that the Vegas 4x4 will no longer be able to pop wheelies,

I'm assuming that this is the case on the console version.

 

Not sure what other features are missing on the console version.

 

Just curious to hear your thought with some details.

[mattskoii 67]

17 hours ago, Hiaro said:

G1 gave up quickly on ever succeeding apb and I have fear that LO will do the same, maybe regret buying it and seeing it's more work than they imagined.

 

With the dwindling playerbase, the lack of updates (and even worse balance changes), and an engine upgrade that is still not happening I worry that this game will go under.

 

Apb may be riddled with problems, but it's an incredible game at it's core and there's a reason people stuck with it for as long as they did, and even some of us are still here. Whether we want to admit it or not, many of us love this game and we know LO must have seen even a glimpse of the greatness in this world to have took on the task of working on it.

 

Please don't let go of that... I'm sure that working with the code is a nightmare and the engine upgrade isn't a guaranteed savior, but if it fixes performance and gives you the power to balance the game easier and create content then this game could last for many more years. But you also have to be willing to listen to the players and learn from mistakes.

 

Many veteran players are waiting on the engine upgrade to come back. Even a big name like Summit plans to return after the engine upgrade. 

 

And that's great. If you can pull this off and get the engine upgrade out, that will be a huge step in the right direction. But that isn't what will save the game. Continuing to communicate with the players and consider their input on changes while working to add new content and balance the existing is what will keep this game going.

 

G1 gave so many promises. They continuously told us the engine upgrade would be close year after year. They even announced a new br game mode and disappeared. I'm begging you not to do the same because you're so close. And I know it's not much but what you have done so far is an amazing starting point. I know people will always think the game is riddled with cheaters but I know from experience that BattlEye has been great and it's the anti cheat we needed for years. and the trading system in game is really nice. A few other qol changes were great too and while it isn't much to show for in the timespan, its more than g1 did for years. 

 

So please keep trying. There are probably days where you feel stressed out over how hard it is to deal with this game but if you guys at LO love this game even a fraction of how much the playerbase does then you have to keep trying. And if it gets bad or if you get desperate then tell us.. Be honest. Consider crowd funding if you have to. We will help because to us, in a way this is our game too and we want it to succeed. 

 

And because I'm not ready to let go of this game. And I know there are others that aren't as well. There still isn't a new game like APB. And there may never be one. So the best choice is this game being upgraded. So please keep doing your best.

 

This is in no way a hate post to LO and I know there has been no implication of these updates not happening and the game going under, but I've also seen this happen with RTW and G1 so it's still possible.. and I still worry.

 

But it's also still possible for APB to tap into it's potential.

 

And only Little Orbit can make that happen.

Just remember no matter how angry we get at you or how much we vent, we are still here with you guys. The playerbase is smaller than ever but the ones still left are some of the most loyal.

 

I believe in you guys so please don't give up and thank you for giving this game another chance. 

Is this not enough satisfaction that Matt is no where near giving up?, And not being a douche but by your forum profile being only made this year makes us wonder if you're the one who's given up, And that us long time vets of the game have been through the games up's n downs and seen in depth how far this game has come over the years so sit tight and be patient nothings done overnight just saying.

[Noob_Guardian 418]

7 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Yeah, "wanted".

That's not a deadline.

And nothing about RIOT being released last Wednesday either.

Did you maybe quote the wrong stuff?

 

Man, I hope my friends arent such moochers.

nah i think that's simply what he was refering to. I had no clue until i read the later post

[Fortune Runner 796]

19 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Want LO to keep going?

Open up that wallet, fam.

^^^ This

[Alani 475]

Why would we wanna give up mattscot.

 

Not like anyone else is trying to higher him...

[wibsey 91]

8 minutes ago, Alani said:

Why would we wanna give up mattscot.

 

Not like anyone else is trying to higher him...

[SpuzvaBob 92]

I've removed several posts that have veered off-topic. Please in the future keep thing relevant to the thread.

 

-Spuzva

[Guest]

please do.