Ketog 926 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) It would be cool to see Staff's opinion on this, even if it's a "we don't know", as the community clearly has shown that the name does matter , even tho it's just a name. Edited March 28, 2019 by Ketog 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted March 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ketog said: can't we get a staff reply here ? , even if it's a "i don't know" i'd be cool to know that this post is actually seen here. staff commenting on brand renaming or not doing such would be considered as an opinion from the company. so probably not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5055 Posted March 28, 2019 Maybe it's easier to fix a reputation than it is to build a brand from scratch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 334 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Maybe it's easier to fix a reputation than it is to build a brand from scratch. A first impression can take as little as 7 seconds and can last a life time. Many people left APB and the company name to the game face is not something I don't think many people would forget if they saw it again. New players may not think twice, but former players would remember and not only not want to give APB another chance but may recommend others against trying APB is they knew GamersFirst still was working APB:Reloaded! As I said before, GamersFirst is a stain that I don't will ever fully be washed away. I try to be polite and not speak ill of others, but GamersFirst EARNED that reputation and it's one that is going to stay for a long time. Edited March 28, 2019 by VickyFox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted March 28, 2019 Oh I should add on. No one will bother touching this game until people hear of good things. So I wouldn't expect anything good said until when the engine upgrade is out and the bugs are being fixed and maybe removing the OUT OF BOUNDS SYSTEM FOR FUCKS SAKE. GET RID OF IT ALREADY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5055 Posted March 28, 2019 5 hours ago, VickyFox said: A first impression can take as little as 7 seconds and can last a life time. Many people left APB and the company name to the game face is not something I don't think many people would forget if they saw it again. New players may not think twice, but former players would remember and not only not want to give APB another chance but may recommend others against trying APB is they knew GamersFirst still was working APB:Reloaded! As I said before, GamersFirst is a stain that I don't will ever fully be washed away. I try to be polite and not speak ill of others, but GamersFirst EARNED that reputation and it's one that is going to stay for a long time. I dont think old players matter anymore. More important are newcomers. Also, Hugo Boss made uniforms for the fucking Nazis. If they can repair their brand, Im pretty sure GamersFirst can too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 790 Posted March 28, 2019 its not a brand that says it wishes to do good for the players when it is a belief that lives to do good for the players my personal summary and outtake of what MattScott was saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketog 926 Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) absolutely random bump from me, sorry, i had to martinz. i want this to happen so bad, that name basically represent years and years of mismanagement Honestly; did any of you seen the name "gamersfirst" being brought up to say something genuinely positive in the past years ? Edited May 7, 2019 by Ketog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0asty 4 Posted May 7, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 5:53 AM, GhosT said: Yes, absolutely. GamersFirst has a very bad reputation for multiple reasons. Keeping the name hurts LO because people think GamersFirst is still the owner of APB. Agreed 100%. At least LO is trying to fix the game, while G1 didn't give a s***. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ketog said: absolutely random bump from me, sorry, i had to martinz. i want this to happen so bad, that name basically represent years and years of mismanagement Honestly; did any of you seen the name "gamersfirst" being brought up to say something genuinely positive in the past years ? each company has its own business plan . G1 began a tough fight with cheaters including FF , still brought the game to the console , could hold the base players until 2016 . when were the negotiations on the sale of the company exactly we do not know . Edited May 7, 2019 by Yood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 527 Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Yood said: each company has its own business plan . G1 began a tough fight with cheaters including FF , still brought the game to the console , could hold the base players until 2016 . when were the negotiations on the sale of the company exactly we do not know . G1 fought cheaters? Rofl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilyV3 322 Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Not yet. with the current situation of APB, the bad reputation will just immediately set up again. So they need to fix major problems APB has first before they can bury the old companies name with the old bad reputation. funnily, if they CAN fix it, the brand would be saved because the reputation would be restored , which then doesn't needs to bury G1 as a brand. but currently, speaking with others, LO as a brand is now already marked badly with "The guys who unbanned all cheaters" Which seems to weight much heavier for a bad reputation than the bad treatment G1 gave the game. Edited May 7, 2019 by LilyV3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: G1 fought cheaters? Rofl Total Bans: 16917 Just now, LilyV3 said: funnily, if they CAN fix it, the brand would be saved because the reputation would be restored , which then doesn't needs to bury G1 as a brand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 527 Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Yood said: Total Bans: 16917 How many of those rerolled 5k times? It really doesnt matter when they can keep coming back time after time. U can ban the acc they just make a new one and keep on hacking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: How many of those rerolled 5k times? It really doesnt matter when they can keep coming back time after time. U can ban the acc they just make a new one and keep on hacking. no doubt G1 shit ! Lo made it bigger and easier . unban 99% Chiters . go to the forest Darkzero3802 have you prepared your wallets and financial cards ? THEN LO goes to you ! Edited May 8, 2019 by Yood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 527 Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Yood said: no doubt G1 shit ! Lo made it bigger and easier . unban 99% Chiters . go to the forest Darkzero3802 have you prepared your wallets and financial cards ? THEN LO goes to you ! At the end of the day they can ban all the hackers as long as they come back it doesn't mean jack. There were false bans with the positive bans so LO unbanned everyone as they couldn't verify which was which. Yea alot more bad then good happened from that result but there wasn't any other way about it. Now they just need to crack down and get the closets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garbo 0 Posted May 8, 2019 Can we please let the dead lie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5055 Posted May 8, 2019 No one I know has even heard of GamersFirst, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted May 9, 2019 18 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: Yea alot more bad then good happened from that result but there wasn't any other way about it. there's always another way . LO went the way of quick and easy financial gain . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V2050 31 Posted May 9, 2019 It's no mystery that I have a really bad opinion about GamersFirst. I'll let you guess what my vote was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 527 Posted May 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Yood said: there's always another way . LO went the way of quick and easy financial gain . Which way would have netted them more money? Giving them thgeir acc back or making them start over and rebuy everything? Im quite sure more would have been made by making them rebuy on new accounts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiphos 5564 Posted May 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said: Which way would have netted them more money? Giving them thgeir acc back or making them start over and rebuy everything? Im quite sure more would have been made by making them rebuy on new accounts. i doubt a new company taking over and continuing to enforce bans from an anticheat that they themselves state is not functioning correctly would encourage many banned players to start over fresh, let alone spend more money on the game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Queen of Love 371 Posted May 9, 2019 yes, and restore Old login screen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 790 Posted May 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Yood said: there's always another way . LO went the way of quick and easy financial gain . evidence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeedman 115 Posted May 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Yood said: there's always another way . LO went the way of quick and easy financial gain . Do you seriously think that LO went for APB and Gamersfirst brand because they're after money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites