Parthian 344 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Hello, Whoever decided it was a good idea to allow Improved Rifling on shotguns should get dropped from the company. The NFAS is so incredibly broken right now that missions where an opponent has one are almost unplayable. And that's not even mentioning the RFP, Low Yields or the Spotter modification. These are all busted as fuck and something needs to happen as soon as possible. You should be focusing on balancing the weapons/modifications rather than spending time making dogshit events that people play for 2 days before going back to doing regular missions. Please do something. Thank you. Edited January 8, 2019 by Parthian 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_chain 176 Posted January 8, 2019 I'm pretty sure most of the time has been spent working on the unreal engine port, silvers. As for the NFAS players, try learning from them, because there's definitely something you're doing wrong if you always fall for the same tricks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted January 8, 2019 I am so tired of people telling "X should be top priority" because they're having a few bad games... There is more to APB than such minor details. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, _chain said: I'm pretty sure most of the time has been spent working on the unreal engine port, silvers. As for the NFAS players, try learning from them, because there's definitely something you're doing wrong if you always fall for the same tricks. yep. definitely going to try learning a thing or two from DannyCool235 when he mints me down at 20m when i am halfway behind cover thanks for the input dude ill try it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted January 8, 2019 have you tried using the ‘S’ key when engaging an nfas? works wonders the spread is so wide that ir3 doesn’t really help the nfas anyway 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swft 356 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Fucking put this man in the SPCT!!! bring me back in too btw bros oh and take a look at my suggestions thread too! (click here) Edited January 8, 2019 by swft plug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Amberwind said: Hello, Whoever decided it was a good idea to allow Improved Rifling on shotguns should get dropped from the company. The NFAS is so incredibly broken right now that missions where an opponent has one are almost unplayable. You know they nerfed the range on the NFAS by 50% right? And that IR has always been allowed on shotguns? Edited January 8, 2019 by CookiePuss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CookiePuss said: You know they nerfed the range on the NFAS by 50% right? And that IR has always been allowed on shotguns? IR has always been allowed on shotguns but it has never affected them as much as it is right now. The NFAS is busted and anyone who denies it is nothing more than someone from the bronze district or a gold plated, delusional silver. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owzzy 179 Posted January 8, 2019 Sounds like you got thrashed by a silver with an nfas and now you're letting your salt flow on the forum. Nfas is perfectly fine. IR3 on shotguns is standard but it's not overpowered. Spotter could have a slight cooldown nerf. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Amberwind said: IR has always been allowed on shotguns but it has never affected them as much as it is right now. The NFAS is busted and anyone who denies it is nothing more than someone from the bronze district or a gold plated, delusional silver. But the NFAS has 10m less range than it did before, and nothing at all has changed with IR. What are you even talking about? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazeker 1082 Posted January 8, 2019 Yeah just don't hug a shotgun opponents. The NFAS is terrible at any bit of range, IR or not. Also in actual game play other CQC weapons outgun the NFAS because of its spread, it's not like that on paper but who cares,,,, well, maybe, unless you afk on the spot. If you want to complain about weapons look at the current meta.... ancient meta? Whatever. *opponent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Amberwind said: IR has always been allowed on shotguns but it has never affected them as much as it is right now. The NFAS is busted and anyone who denies it is nothing more than someone from the bronze district or a gold plated, delusional silver. nfas has always been a crazy ultra cqc gun, it dominates under 10m due to ease of use and raw ttk but it’s such a small niche it’s not really worth using if youre honestly having trouble with an nfas at 20m i think you’re the silver here lmao, even with ir3 that’s past drop off range 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted January 8, 2019 Little Orbit had just made an attempt at weapon balancing and more experience by them is needed. also to do better improvements for APB patootie a whole , the engine upgrade has to be top priority for PC so that the consoles can be properly fixed. After that all updates for APB can be given to all platforms easier as well. So to sum this up your thread title of "weapon balancing should be your top priority" is actually not a good idea because it caters to you rather than the APB community well being as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preo 18 Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, owzzy said: Sounds like you got thrashed by a silver with an nfas and now you're letting your salt flow on the forum. Nfas is perfectly fine. IR3 on shotguns is standard but it's not overpowered. Spotter could have a slight cooldown nerf. omg not your crutch weapon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted January 8, 2019 by the way are we talking of the nfas ogre or the regular nfas or what? ogre has that wind up and anyone not blasting music or other noise can hear it and know to shoot fast to kill them. if its the normal nfas.... um howd you lose to that then? It can be gunned down with a star fairly decently ( with a reg nfas shotgun , star 556's can be brutal to it in the right hands) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Fortune Runner said: by the way are we talking of the nfas ogre or the regular nfas or what? ogre has that wind up and anyone not blasting music or other noise can hear it and know to shoot fast to kill them. if its the normal nfas.... um howd you lose to that then? It can be gunned down with a star fairly decently ( with a reg nfas shotgun , star 556's can be brutal to it in the right hands) ... You aren't helping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Fortune Runner said: So to sum this up your thread title of "weapon balancing should be your top priority" is actually not a good idea because it caters to you rather than the APB community well being as a whole. The whole point of my title was to make fun of the fact that they have been focusing on making events that somehow manage to break some of the core gameplay mechanics of the game rather than focusing on trying to fix the game. Two examples of the game breaking due to these event updates are; 1. The "Destroy" objective on shopfronts in certain missions now require you to ram them with a car, or else the mission won't progress. 2. The HUD markers (teammates, spotter, enemy makers in DM) disappear randomly for certain people, and a restart of the game is required to fix it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazeker 1082 Posted January 8, 2019 Really old and kind of corny advice is; when in doubt buy the same gun and find out what is strong and weak about it. It's true though. And kinda on-topic, someone recently did ask me "why isn't there a contact- or even Armas- version of something like the Joker FW launcher?" Got me there... it's pretty cheap to trade / buy one from someone though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Edited January 8, 2019 by Parthian 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shui 225 Posted January 8, 2019 No, they focus on Engine Upgrade. Roadmap: Engine Upgrade > optimise servers > other useless shit like threat and missions > weapon balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitne 724 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Oh no. Shotguns can kill me at their effective distance! Better hate on IR cause it expand distance by like... 5 meters! Oh btw. push them at distance then? Edited January 8, 2019 by Mitne 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikkiCasinoKnows 44 Posted January 8, 2019 Just remove all weapons except ntec. Who needs any viable counter-tactics in a game anyway? Nobody that's who. And hey if we could get aim-assist on that ntec the whole game will be balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lZackl 9 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 4-6 shots around 20m? Most good players can out ttk this with an oca/pmg. Have you tried not pushing corners without baiting first because if you don't and they're behind that corner, ur swiss cheese. Edited January 8, 2019 by lZackl Internet Connection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites