Shredder shotgun... LOL ;P

[Tigrix 308]

go ahead, try it ;D

i dare u ;D

[CookiePuss 5377]

#lmb2win

[Tigrix 308]

4 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

#lmb2win

it has better range than the supposed "ranged" cqc weapons  (oca, pmg etc)
idk how it's called a shotgun... ok it fires spead bullets!? but somehow that spread has turned into 1 massive bullet hitting you at 20+ meters ez

is shredder armas-only? cuz if so.... omg .. this really turned P2W even to a degree i can't deny;P  Edited August 12, 2018 by Tigrix

[mynd 120]

Big owners accused me of paying 50$ to beat them cuz I rekt with Shredder. Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous right now.  Trial yours now for FREE!

[Aeronaut 647]

nobody tells me what to do. 



unless it's a reasonable request.

[CookiePuss 5377]

9 minutes ago, Tigrix said:

it has better range than the supposed "ranged" cqc weapons  (oca, pmg etc)
idk how it's called a shotgun... ok it fires spead bullets!? but somehow that spread has turned into 1 massive bullet hitting you at 20+ meters ez

is shredder armas-only? cuz if so.... omg .. this really turned P2W even to a degree i can't deny;P 

Its now Joker Store as well... I almost said "luckily", but "luckily" I caught myself   Edited August 12, 2018 by CookiePuss

[owzzy 179]

IR3 in the shredder turns it into a sniper-shotgun hybrid.

[Fenton 210]

53 minutes ago, Aeronaut said:

nobody tells me what to do. 



unless it's a reasonable request.

Could you post up a picture of your character somewhere?

[GhosT 1301]

This is the prime example why you shouldn't make such a weird pellet damage system.
They're way too forgiving now, hitting 1-2 pellets shouldn't reward you with dealing full damage.

This seems like a lazy attempt to dodge having to fix the servers/hitreg.

[CookiePuss 5377]

1 hour ago, GhosT said:

 hitting 1-2 pellets shouldn't reward you with dealing full damage.

It doesn't

[GhosT 1301]

36 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

2 hours ago, GhosT said:

 hitting 1-2 pellets shouldn't reward you with dealing full damage.

It doesn't

From what I've heard it works somewhat like that, instead of single pellets doing x damage, like they used to.
Little Orbits explanation on the shotgun changes isn't understandable and no one even knows how they actually work now.

[CookiePuss 5377]

16 minutes ago, GhosT said:

From what I've heard it works somewhat like that, instead of single pellets doing x damage, like they used to.
Little Orbits explanation on the shotgun changes isn't understandable and no one even knows how they actually work now.

Here is a graph @Tobii made for CSG damage


Here is one from LO_Beastie showing JG damage (Test A is the live version iirc)


You do kind of have to dig to get all this info unfortunately.

[GhosT 1301]

13 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Here is a graph @Tobii made for CSG damage

Here is one from LO_Beastie showing JG damage (Test A is the live version iirc)

You do kind of have to dig to get all this info unfortunately.

Because simply explaining it in 1-2 sentences in the patch notes is too hard.
Thanks.

The shotgun changes are still stupid though and shouldn't be the way they currently are.

[CookiePuss 5377]

Just now, GhosT said:

Because simply explaining it in 1-2 sentences in the patch notes is too hard.
Thanks.

The shotgun changes are still stupid though and shouldn't be the way they currently are.

Yeah I don't understand why it wasn't explained either.
I also agree that the current shotgun changes should be reworked.
Hopefully this patch isn't final.

[ok 419]

NA APB LUL

[Kat 27]

I think shredder balance changes were tested by porn bots cus even a chimp brain could deduce a 3-shot-from-50m shotgun shouldn't be pushed to live

[EnriquexD 7]

I suck with this weapon lol, just bought the JT Shedder and i barely can get a kill, i put in slot RS3.. I feel my hitreg is very bad with it... I got mad and changed to my NFAS no slotted and was killing so bad in assylum 

What about DOW Thumper, i saw a few guys with it in FC and they just 2 shot me 10-15m, is it op now or was the player?

[GhosT 1301]

10 minutes ago, EnriquexD said:

I suck with this weapon lol, just bought the JT Shedder and i barely can get a kill, i put in slot RS3.. I feel my hitreg is very bad with it... I got mad and changed to my NFAS no slotted and was killing so bad in assylum 

What about DOW Thumper, i saw a few guys with it in FC and they just 2 shot me 10-15m, is it op now or was the player?

You're playing the gun wrong.
You have to aim with it, like you would with an assault rifle or something.

It's made to be used in marksman mode, and gains accuracy from that.
The go-to mod for it is Hunting Sight 3 and Mobility Sling.

Try it again that way.

[Unclean 45]

The shredder seems strong because of how close most combat is in APB.. 

It needs something, just not sure what. Maybe spacing the damage between 3 balls instead of how ever many it has now? This would be less forgiving for those who tend to spray it when in CQC.

I see it fixed, but recognize that it's an issue somehow.. it's beat by the Ntec (which is the most balanced weapon imo) when it tries to take on an ntec from medium range, and beat by the OCA when it's outfitted with IR3 in CQC. I don't think the damage is the issue, but maybe the accuracy when in marksmanship mode? Pellet count?

[EnriquexD 7]

19 minutes ago, GhosT said:

You're playing the gun wrong.
You have to aim with it, like you would with an assault rifle or something.

It's made to be used in marksman mode, and gains accuracy from that.
The go-to mod for it is Hunting Sight 3 and Mobility Sling.

Try it again that way.

Oh wow, just give it a try the way u said in 1 mission, and  was totally different. I used to hip fire like all shotguns and that was my error, thanks. 

[YumiSakura 86]

ngl shredder right now is out of this world litteraly like LO have put this thing into a Little Orbit, pun intended. rush to armas and buy one right now...... troublemaker v2 anyone? roll up roll up get yours while stocks last

[CookiePuss 5377]

3 minutes ago, YumiSakura said:

ngl shredder right now is out of this world litteraly like LO have put this thing into a Little Orbit, pun intended. rush to armas and buy one right now...... troublemaker v2 anyone? roll up roll up get yours while stocks last

I wouldnt buy anything til LO says changes are final.
Technically we are still testing the patch, just on live servers.

[YumiSakura 86]

10 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

I wouldnt buy anything til LO says changes are final.
Technically we are still testing the patch, just on live servers.

Party pooper.

i was trying to avoid being negative after 3hrs of yoga and trying to eleviate the stress of playing for 2hrs but fk it this patch is dogshit.

anyone got some valium spare? Edited August 13, 2018 by YumiSakura

[SLICKIEM 118]

Don't forget that one major perk of shotguns is that they are intended to help players with less skill be effective at the cost of being near useless (outside of secondaries) at ranges where marksman and assault rifles are powerful. This pellet rework is supposed to make that a reality, which I think it does without being too game-changing or overbearing.

Edited August 13, 2018 by SLICKIEM

[YumiSakura 86]

7 minutes ago, SLICKIEM said:

Don't forget that one major perk of shotguns is that they are intended to help players with less skill be effective at the cost of being near useless (outside of secondaries) at ranges where marksman and assault rifles are powerful. This pellet rework is supposed to make that a reality, which I think it does without being too game-changing or overbearing.

Not sure if im drunk or your trolling but i got a shredder today on trial ofc. being able to kill 3 enemys at +20m with one mag is not what i would consider near useless or non game changing.