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looooool ir3 patch ruined every gun that ever needed ir3

good job morons hahh

2 minutes ago, somcs said:

 

btw fix the servers LMAO

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How did it ruin them? You play them exactly same at range you did before and are exactly as good at range as they were before. The only thing that changed about them is their cqc spray potency, which is good. Guns like Oscar are still top tier with ir3. 

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1 minute ago, FluttershyI said:

-18%????????????????????????

It's FUCKING 2,5 Cooling Jacket. Why would anybody want to use IR3 ever now. Just take a long range weapon....

That is the whole point though.
You have to choose, do you want your guns to be more effective at long, or short range. You can't have both.
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2 minutes ago, FluttershyI said:

-18%????????????????????????

It's FUCKING 2,5 Cooling Jacket. Why would anybody want to use IR3 ever now. Just take a long range weapon....

Why would someone use it? To get more range on a gut while sacrificing some of its cqc capabilities.
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1 minute ago, Killer Rabbit said:
That is the whole point though.
You have to choose, do you want your guns to be more effective at long, or short range. You can't have both.
Choose? The downside of IR is like de-equiping 2,5 Cooling Jackets so everybody will just roll CJ or nothing from this point forward and take weapons wich naturally have more range
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1 minute ago, FluttershyI said:
4 minutes ago, Killer Rabbit said:
That is the whole point though.
You have to choose, do you want your guns to be more effective at long, or short range. You can't have both.
Choose? The downside of IR is like de-equiping 2,5 Cooling Jackets so everybody will just roll CJ or nothing from this point forward and take weapons wich naturally have more range

Base NTEC has a 0.7 seconds time to kill, 50 meter range.

With CJ3 it's 0.65
With IR3 it's 0.82, with a 59 meter range.

The base CR762 is 0.84 seconds ttk, and has a 60 meter range.
So, IR3 on NTEC turns it into an Obeya, basically, while retaining full auto fire and a much bigger magazine.

What a terrible nerf.
/s
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3 minutes ago, Killer Rabbit said:

Base NTEC has a 0.7 seconds time to kill, 50 meter range.

With CJ3 it's 0.65
With IR3 it's 0.82, with a 59 meter range.

The base CR762 is 0.84 seconds ttk, and has a 60 meter range.
So, IR3 on NTEC turns it into an Obeya, basically, while retaining full auto fire and a much bigger magazine.

What a terrible nerf.
/s
Wich is exactly my point. All rifles will be usless apart from Ntec. Obir or Obeya are pretty inferior now as they will completely suck at closer ranges with IR Edited by FluttershyI
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1 minute ago, FluttershyI said:
Wich is exactly my point. All rifles will be usless apart from Ntec. Obir or Obeya are pretty inferior now as they will completely suck at closer ranges with IR
But they are supposed to suck at close range since they are LONG RANGE RIFLES. You have a secondary for a reason
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Just now, FluttershyI said:
Wich is exactly my point. All rifles will be usless apart from Ntec. Obir or Obeya are pretty inferior now as they will completely suck at closer ranges with IR
That remains to be seen. As far as effective fire rate, the Obeya has not been hurt, as you'd never spam it at full speed at range anyway. Their niche is untouched, and will still melt you at range.
Given that they are not CQC weapons, I don't see a problem.
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17 minutes ago, lRaulDuke said:
@Killer Rabbit N-tec was universal weapon close/m/h range now you cant shoot at close distance like before its so slow with IR3, but u have choice close/mid range n-tec without IR or high range 
That's a good thing, you either have the long range or you have the CQC ability, you don't get both. N-TEC is still one of the least affected guns by the IR change anyway.
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39 minutes ago, lRaulDuke said:
@Killer Rabbit N-tec was universal weapon close/m/h range now you cant shoot at close distance like before its so slow with IR3, but u have choice close/mid range n-tec without IR or high range 

In theory this sounds good, the problem is that the IR range buff also buffed the ntec since now you can just spray most of the times.
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