Biweekly Poll

[Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269]

Today's biweekly poll will be on weapon modifications. If you could change one weapon mod (it doesn't matter if you nerf, buff or completely change it), which mod would it be?

 

The best way for LO to make changes that will be accepted is to voice our opinions in an easy analysable manner, so let's put our initial opinions out in the open for them

Edited July 23, 2019 by Weeb TheEpicGuyV2

[vsb 6171]

you're missing like 6 mods bro

[Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269]

Just now, Glaciers said:

you're missing like 6 mods bro

I'm only human qq

 

Which ones?

[vsb 6171]

3 minutes ago, Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 said:

I'm only human qq

 

Which ones?

car mods

consumables

character mods

 

oh its just weapons please euthanize me im smart

 

 

Edited July 15, 2019 by Glaciers
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[Acornie 490]

I have a bit of a disdain for IR3 because of old G1 putting it on Armas guns that they shouldn't (Fang and CSG) and fricking up the gun balance

[GhosT 1301]

Definitely Improved Rifling.

Slower accuracy recovery or something. Give it a downside, anything. It currently has none.

[CookiePuss 5378]

High Mag Scope just because it's basically useless now. 

[BlueB 35]

Nice more useless spam.

 

We would need a played desire list of mods within wanted updates and see how many of them coincide... but here on forums dont have them all, so only a few get involved.

Thats why ur poll (i would say all of them to be honest) is useless.

 

Merged.

 

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If i would change mods i would remove the yellow ones and remove negative effects and balance them. 

Or instead make a new wave of mods based on the ones we already have called advanced with the previous mentioned benefits.

 

Ive also readed some interesting mods in other thread like the stacking one: you can use same colour mods, or you can use same mods (for weapons).

 

There are so many interesting things to do... get to play games if you are going to lead them.

[GhosT 1301]

17 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

High Mag Scope just because it's basically useless now. 

 

Out of interest, what would you change on it?

It's just HS3, but with a scope reticle, a range finder and more zoom.

[VickyFox 353]

...Car Surfer and Brick...

[Bambola 379]

Are non-bi people allowed to vote, too?

[CookiePuss 5378]

51 minutes ago, GhosT said:

 

Out of interest, what would you change on it?

It's just HS3, but with a scope reticle, a range finder and more zoom.

Good point. 

Does deleting count as change?

[Nite 261]

The best HMS change I could think of would be pinning it to the heavy sniper weapons, but that's not really a HMS issue.

 

Wasn't there a suggestion about ways to make heavy barrel viable on shotguns some time ago? We could try that....

[Hexerin 1140]

I selected Improved Rifling, but I don't necessarily want to see the existing mod changed since it already caused an uproar the first time around (people afraid of change, rip). I just wish that Little Orbit's variant of the mod they pushed as a rebalance were returned. The percentage range increase (with flat applied after to make the mod not completely useless on shotguns) at the cost of reduced fire rate was absolutely god tier for a few weapons, and made numerous others feel amazing.

 

I miss it, so much...

[CookiePuss 5378]

17 minutes ago, Nite said:

 

 

Wasn't there a suggestion about ways to make heavy barrel viable on shotguns some time ago? We could try that....

I believe @Nitronik has a very good idea for that.

[Hexerin 1140]

43 minutes ago, Nite said:

Wasn't there a suggestion about ways to make heavy barrel viable on shotguns some time ago? We could try that....

25 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

I believe @Nitronik has a very good idea for that.

Color me curious. Heavy Barrel is very useful in a certain niche, but it'd be nice to see it reworked to something useable across the board.

[Nite 261]

9 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

Color me curious. Heavy Barrel is very useful in a certain niche, but it'd be nice to see it reworked to something useable across the board.

Found it, it was this suggestion:

 

 

[Hexerin 1140]

11 minutes ago, Nite said:

Found it, it was this suggestion:

Thanks for the link. Would need to also find a different downside (the damage reduction kills the mod outside the one niche it's already used in), and the spread reduction percentage would need to be at least 25% to have any noticeable impact (the 35% DOW has barely changes it).

 

I'd say bring the spread reduction at least to 20%/35%/50% (buffing DOW to 50% as well). If it turns out that shotguns are killing too far away, just lower their effective range and/or sharpen the falloff scale and/or reduce minimum damage percentage.

 

For the downside, I'd say increasing recoil would be an effective substitute to the current damage reduction. A missed shot still reduces damage output, but recoil is something that skill can mitigate.

[Nitronik 348]

I'd love to see it tested on OTW at some point - pipe dream however!

Been a bit since I did the math but the damage reduction would (barely) even out, allowing you to hit further out and even improve 2shot distance

On-Topic : I voted Heavy Barrel.

TTK and Accuracy go hand in hand - bad accuracy will worsen your TTK. So if you give means to improve overall accuracy, you decrease damage to compensate.

Works out on paper but in practice the mod is awful, increases STK on almost all guns, and still loses out to IR and CJ

[Helix Reloaded 102]

CJ3: worsened bloom per shot (and maybe max bloom too) instead of minimum accuracy/spread.

 

All silencers: They really dont need the hard-damage reduction.

Also change "Silencer" to "Suppressor" god damnit.

[Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269]

2 hours ago, Helix Reloaded said:

and maybe max bloom too

Despite what the in-game description says, CJ actually affects shot modifier cap (or max bloom). It does not affect bloom per shot at all (it may seem like it but that's because of the increased firerate)

[Hexerin 1140]

6 minutes ago, Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 said:

Despite what the in-game description says, CJ actually affects shot modifier cap (or max bloom). It does not affect bloom per shot at all (it may seem like it but that's because of the increased firerate)

Yup. Both Cooling Jacket and Improved Rifling increase max bloom. Surprisingly however, Improved Rifling has significantly less of an effect despite it being the one that is supposed to have it as a downside. Never understood why people always claim otherwise, considering how incredibly easy it is to test.

[Helix Reloaded 102]

2 hours ago, Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 said:

Despite what the in-game description says, CJ actually affects shot modifier cap (or max bloom). It does not affect bloom per shot at all (it may seem like it but that's because of the increased firerate)

I was suggesting that it should increase the bloom per shot, instead of minimum bloom.

[yood 345]

the question is posed incorrectly . it has different themes .

[Fortune Runner 796]

1 hour ago, olo said:

the question is posed incorrectly . it has different themes .

thats ok you are a theme