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Ill pass on beacon. The spawns on the map are absolutely horrid and there would be no way things would be balanced. And for those who are saying you cant fill Asylum you obv arent around during the day cause it does fill, you just wont see Asylum and Baylen with players cause its only ever one of the 2. If you swap maps it will be the same thing just Baylen will never be played cause you will have a kills only map thats small enough as to where it will be close range weapons only like the shotties. No thanks I prefer Asylum where you can have a variety of viable weapons. Asylum: Obj FC map that is big enough to support 20v20 with not so great but not overly horrid spawns with most weapons viable. Baylen: Kills only map that can support 20v20 with ok respawns and is mostly for ranged weapons. Beacon: Kills only map that is really only good for 10v10 with the worst spawns in the game and is so small that the only viable weapons will be shotties.

not sure how this relates to admitting that the ir3 change was wrong and only reverting half of it It dont, it says they intend to keep the nerf on it.

the temp fix did nothing to the broken pellet mechanics, and the ir3 temp “fix” just removed the range but left the controversial rof decrease and the IR3 rof decrease is still there in the new patch

They put a temp fix out and in 2 days the nerf is here.

The main issue before was the pellets not registering properly but then again no bullet did unless you had a bot. But with that fixed I still think shotties were on the weak side. when it comes to close combat shotties should have the advantage due to said pellets and raw power. The power was lacking back then even if hitreg worked. SMGs are good and close combat but they shouldnt have had the advantage they had pre patch.

With the hitreg patch 2 days away I wana see where all the guns are at. If this patch actually fixes the reg then we can look at balancing

One attempt doesnt mean their shit at it. It means their learning. Why not let em get afew officially released patches under their belts before u start saying whether they are good or bad at it.

Matt already said he messed up and rushed it and that they were fixing it with the patch in 2 days. The point of this topic is?

Hey @MattScott did you guys fix the objective dash bug?

I mean, i've used it for years, when it was uselses and not, so ill probably still use it anyways even when balanced. /shrug, as long as its not nerfed to the ground like i keep seeing people suggest. Everything is to the ground in APB thats why it takes forever to kill someone

Im sry but hosting this on OTW does what to bring players into Jericho and increase the server pop?

It was never broken before though. It was broken when they overbuffed it. So you can stop saying that it's bs. As soon as it gets fixed to what it should have been with it's higher ttk (they will Nerf it's ir3 range soon) and hopefully pellet Overkill it will be balanced. Not that anyone will actually use it when it gets rebalaned to what it should of been though. Alot of ppl will stop yes but u will find afew that keep using it. Ppl who tend to spend money use their purchased stuff to get their moneys worth.

Ill change mine next week as im late

Agreed I dont like changing either based off of hackers. What really should be done is LO staff having the power to remove ppl with hacks. If theres enough proof these ppl should be removed and placed on a bubble where pending review they are either banned or allowed back into the game. This would keep hackers from ruining the game as much and anyone caught in error is not banned. LO staff should also look at said streams and if its found they have hacks on its proof enough for a ban. Theres other ways to get hackers and LO should utilize these ways to further fair play.

If any shotgun should have range it would be the JG. Pump action shotties require skill to use (unlike auto shotties) as u cant just fire it off u will always have that fire delay and the opp will have a chance to either run or fire back. Also if the shredder is like this now with the horrid hitreg think how it will be once thats fixed, ull have the TTK alot more and less pellet misses. Ive had dead on shots only partially hit due to this hitreg issue and miss the 3 shot window requiring 4. Id hate to see how balanced things actually are once they register hits properly and im not just talking shotties here i mean all guns. The guns are currently balanced off the broken hitreg system so once things are fixed the guns will behave completely different, you cant balance off of something that isnt working. TLDR: LO should pause any gun balancing till after they fix the hitreg and see where the guns are on a properly working hitreg system.

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Sounds like the closure of Han, really was inevitable with how low the pop has consistently been there.

The hitreg patch hasnt come out yet, Matt said they found what was causing it and are working to fix it.

Pump action shotguns should have a tighter spread vs auto shotties. Slower fire rate but less spread makes them viable and auto shotties are more for spray and prey and a slightly higher distance. Lets remember tho all of this is based off the broken hitreg and once thats fixed all of this is going to change. Any changes should wait untill the hitreg patch is put in the game and we have time to see how the guns r actually supposed to work. For yrs weve had to compensate for the bad hitreg and now well need to relearn alot of stuff.

The matchmaking is closely tied to the threat system, they need the new engine to implement district phasing which should improve the matchmaking and combined with that they might rework the threat system though that's not really the issue. The main issue is the low population per district which leads to skewed matchmaking Even when the pop was high this issue was still an issue, its not the low pop its how G1 broke both matchmaking and threat and the failed threat segregation back in the day. Segregation wont solve the issue and both matchmaking and threat need an overhaul. It shouldnt be easy to get gold threat it should be a pain in the rear yet the pain in the rear threat to get is green, obv something isnt right if the lowest rank is the hardest to get and the top rank is easiest.

The thing they want to implement to hopefully resolve those issues is only possible in unreal engine 3.5 and above, so we'll need to wait until that's done I'd assume I dont see what threat values has to do with a newer engine

Thanks for fixing the hitreg matt maby this will bring more ppl to play however what about matchmaking and threat? These 2 core game items are still extremely broken and need priority attention so the skill gap within threats isnt so great, dethreating is wiped out and lesser skilled players dont face top tier players constantly. Any idea yet what this might mean for shotguns? It means any balancing done will have to be redone as it was all based off of broken hitreg that only worked consistently for bots. And im not talking about just shottie balancing here I mean every weapon in the game rebalanced.

wtf is that gun lol Thats the fabled shredder shotgun

Im not silver. I stopped caring about the broken threats back in 2016 and I no longer bother trying in the main dist. I just do as I please and use what I want. If i were to go back to trying id have gold tho. Fie rate is fine its the range. Pellets spread and these really arent which is why its so broken What I find funny is how people are picking the Shredder to complain about. It's like they don't worry about a JG 2-shotting them when like 3 pellets hit from each shell. Come on... At point blank shotties should 2 shot you, thats their metta and if they cant do that they are ineffective and we all should use smgs..... oh wait we did that for yrs after the PMG buff.

This shouldnt be possible with any shottie especially an auto model. id say im 20-30m away here and can 4 shot solo. https://plays.tv/video/5b86fcb1ba89d4d16b/dat-range-apb-apbreloaded?oreferer=notifications