CookiePuss

I personally would be in favor of this change. Nothing worse than being fucked over by some out of mission griefer, but I do understand those who are against it.

I do not know. But in the spirit of fairness, with more than 40 unique weapons in APB... balance them wile keeping them unique cannot be easy. I cannot speak for anyone else. But I use it constantly. Especially the 2 hipfire 1 ADS kills. You get the reduced spread for retreating opp while not increasing the TTK. (since the best defense for shotguns is pressing "s" this comes in handy all the god damn time) I also 3 shot at max range using ADS quite often. To use the DOW and never use the mod is inefficient at best, foolish at worst.

If you believe this to be true at 0.9 ttk, then surely you aren't trying to 3 shot with a CSG at 1.54 ttk.

Uhh, what? Thats the whole point of the DOW. And please tell me you dont think Marksman Mode on a CSG has any effect. Not since the LOBeastie changes, no.

Oh boy was it... that was an hilarious time for APB.

The Thumper Mod allows for tighter spread (35% tighter to be exact) making it actually viable at 20m, 22m at max 3 shot range and even firing all 3 shots with the mod ttk only changes to .90 The CSG if you go by the math does 3 shot up to 23m, but in actual gameplay (spread size vs hitbox size) this is highly unlikely to impossible. (as you said damage dropoff does not mean min stk range, not to mention you go from a .77 ttk to 1.54) Honestly to even compare these shotguns is laughable.

lol... this would be perfect

Was all ready to give you one of my Volcanoes til I read "Whites Unite". Sorry homie, cant help you.

When this happens to me I just say "well fuck you too" and hit "k". Not really worth getting more upset than that.

Cement truck gatekeeper maybe?

Interesting point, though you should at least still be able to see the red name.

1. Pass 2. Pass 3. Pass 4. Pass 5. I guess, sure. 6. Pass 7. Im not sure if this is a netcode or a personal net issue. So no comment.

Bad kitty.

While I understand your frustration, this one's on you homie. Also I would take a moment to calm down before deciding to do a chargeback, at least contact support first and see if they can help you as in the past chargebacks have resulted in bans.

Well... while not the choice I would make, I suppose that IS one way to fix imbalance. I absolutely agree that at least for the NFAS and maybe the JG, this mechanic offers far too much of a buff.

Im just impressed a cat, even a tuxedo wearing one can type, let alone game. Good kitty!

Fun fact: if everyone who could attain gold in bronze played in silver districts, you'd have fairer matches in both bronze AND silver But that would require decent human beings.

All depends on what kind of game you want to make, and how frustrated you want to allow players to feel. Also as I understand it, the plan for 3.5 is that once in a mission you will pass right through any player driven vehicles not in the same mission. So there's that.

Both the CSG and the NFAS have a damage drop-off of 10m. The DOW, 20M. Also if you are using any other shotgun, especially the NFAS at 17m... I don't even know what to say to you.

Probably not the kind of people you want to play with anyways.

I'm sorry, are you saying there was a point people didn't complain that matchmaking was broken?

TIL it is impossible for weapons in a video game to be unbalanced.

I think you mean from 3 to 4. And as I see it, the problem stems from the buff given by the per ray damage scale.

Matchmaking can only do so much with 40 players to choose from, most of whom will already be in a match.

I can't imagine an adjustment won't happen once LO is able to once again focus on weapon balance. I've cheesed the NFAS plenty myself. Not great in all situations, but cqc? It dominates more than it should.