yood 345 Posted March 16, 2019 is twitching shooting (V) in a straight open arena a violation as gaining advantage of tools designed for another purpose ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJellyGoo 343 Posted March 16, 2019 It doesn't give you any advantage? Just makes you look like a spastic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 431 Posted March 16, 2019 No. I would not call that an exploit. Shooting while hammering the V button, no different than jumping and hopping while shooting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, MACKxBOLAN said: No. I would not call that an exploit. Shooting while hammering the V button, no different than jumping and hopping while shooting That's not true. Jump shooting actually maxes out your bloom, V spamming doesn't effect bloom. Would it really hurt to put in a 1 second delay to stop people from spamming this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted March 16, 2019 I sure hope not. If LO starts banning behavior that gives away a player's low IQ, then APB is finished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) you can play in different ways . if you have reinstalled the function to switch the view to the mouse button . if you switch to finger mode there is no problem . the problem starts if the switches are written by a macro with a certain switching rate. Edited March 16, 2019 by Yood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanilleKeks 737 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) The only advantage that V switching mid fight gives you is moving your crosshair left or right. If used correctly in close range it can minimize the time to readjust your aim should you have to. Using this the right way (not just spamming it like an idiot) is a nice high skill technique that rewards those who practice it. It shouldn't be crippled at all. The same goes for people who use the lean function correctly. We don't need to cripple whatever skillgaps are still existent. Edit: Of course it's not just close range where it's useful. It works at long range too, especially snipers can benefit from the crosshair movement since at a certain distance (don't have the exact number in my head, you just kinda feel it) the V switch moves the crosshair the perfect distance to land on strafing and dodging enemies. Edited March 16, 2019 by VanilleKeks 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, VanilleKeks said: Edit: Of course it's not just close range where it's useful. It works at long range too, especially snipers can benefit from the crosshair movement since at a certain distance (don't have the exact number in my head, you just kinda feel it) the V switch moves the crosshair the perfect distance to land on strafing and dodging enemies. submit NFAS-12 'The Janitor' when using these switches the size (volume) of the destructive can be increased ? are you artificially trying to make yourself less vulnerable ? Edited March 16, 2019 by Yood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanilleKeks 737 Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yood said: submit NFAS-12 'The Janitor' when using these switches the size (volume) of the destructive can be increased ? No, V switching does nothing else than move your camera & crosshair. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, VanilleKeks said: No, V switching does nothing else than move your camera & crosshair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanilleKeks 737 Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Yood said: 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, VanilleKeks said: the spread of bullets will be quite different . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanilleKeks 737 Posted March 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Yood said: the spread of bullets will be quite different . No, can you stop spreading false information 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted March 16, 2019 APB isn't really that dynamic when it comes to combat idk why people think changing ur view would do anything but make yourself look stupid to the opposition lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, VanilleKeks said: I see you illustrated how the OSMAW rocket curve when you are next to a vehicle. Edited March 16, 2019 by illgot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanometic 265 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) swapping shoulders to move your crosshair slightly left/right doesn't make you harder to hit, just because your camera is moving hecka fast, doesn't mean you are. Edited March 16, 2019 by Nanometic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted March 16, 2019 Thought this was about using twitch streaming to see where ops are with how it was worded for the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted March 17, 2019 If I cover my eyes and can't see you does that mean you can't see me too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: If I cover my eyes and can't see you does that mean you can't see me too? Yes. My uncle used to say it also meant what I thought was happening was all just a bad dream. ... didnt explain the sore anus though Edited March 17, 2019 by CookiePuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted March 17, 2019 all spamming the shoulder switch function will do is destroy your aim at any range, if someone killed you like this they were memeing it up hard (hopefully on purpose) and you should feel bad for being bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 431 Posted March 17, 2019 23 hours ago, illgot said: That's not true. Jump shooting actually maxes out your bloom, V spamming doesn't effect bloom. 22 hours ago, Yood said: the problem starts if the switches are written by a macro with a certain switching rate. 21 hours ago, VanilleKeks said: The only advantage that V switching mid fight gives you is moving your crosshair left or right. If used correctly in close range it can minimize the time to readjust your aim should you have to. Using this the right way (not just spamming it like an idiot) is a nice high skill technique that rewards those who practice it. It shouldn't be crippled at all. The same goes for people who use the lean function correctly. We don't need to cripple whatever skillgaps are still existent. I had not considered Bloom, i can see this being useful to highly skilled players, and at certain ranges and situations. But i still dont consider it an exploit. Nor do i see it being used in combat often. Mostly be some troll walk up n try to fux your Mind My only complaint with that, if i were to complain, would be the unrealistic nature of the deed. This would be impossible in real life. Even if you could catch the gun, finger the trigger, and do this multiple times in one clip. Gun Juggling, and even if you are an ambidexterity shooter. You Still would miss more with one hand due to the Strong Eye. Everyone has one stronger. Thats if ya didnt gouge yourself n loose part of a finger on the rebounding slide as it racked back. probly flip the gun out of your hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, MACKxBOLAN said: i can see this being useful to highly skilled players, and at certain ranges and situations. I'm almost 99% satisfied with your answer . the problem is that: no one player 'D' terrorized data way server, the official ban, unban,..... Hi. I'm your aunt . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxX 280 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Lets say hypothetically there would be an advantage to rapidly switching shoulders (hint: there isn't), no, it would not be bannable, neither is jump kicking doors open, jump carrying medium items, stutter walking heavy items or blocking ladders with shields. Are those dirty tactics that mess with the intended balance of the game? Absolutely. Are they cheating? Not even close. Edited March 17, 2019 by WhiskeyTangoFoxX 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxX said: bearing medium subjects it is also a problem if the reset , raising , reset is registered as a macro command line . you artificially reduce the chances of the opponent to receive Medal Transporter Slayer . Edited March 17, 2019 by Yood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted March 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Yood said: it is also a problem if the reset , raising , reset is registered as a macro command line . you artificially reduce the chances of the opponent to receive Medal Transporter Slayer . yeah, the missing medal is the worst thing about it. not that you carry it way faster than normally intended. sure. albeit glitchy, i wouldn't call this an exploit either as much as bhopping or runboosting isn't one in CS. it uses ingame mechanics - and if they were seen as an issue, they wouldn't be hard to fix. they don't seem like an issue though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites