EC2Jonathan 20 Posted August 20 (edited) i dont get why people complain about kevlar 3 so much. in its current state it is underpowered compared to easymode mods like clotting agent. ive been pairing percussions grenades with kevlar which rewards high accuracy and fast reaction time. right now people just call it a noob loadout because they dont understand how much skill it actually takes to win fights with it. if anything kevlar 3 + percussions should be considered an ON TOP tier strategy because of how hard it is since you need a lot of game sense and positioning to use it, its actually one of the highest skill loadouts in the game if you think about it because of the disadvantages kevlar 3 comes with. kevlar 3 deserves a serious buff, either reduce the speed penalty or make it give more health, maybe +40% at a minimum. in its current state it only lets you survive one or two more shots depending on the gun, i mean this in itself is ridiculous. this would actually help it compete in the current meta where most tournament level player uses a vbr huntress. a lot of players do however use the ntec and .45 combo paired with fragile or clotting agent. Edited August 21 by EC2Jonathan 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Ardita 212 Posted August 20 2 hours ago, EC2Jonathan said: i dont get why people complain about kevlar 3 so much, in its current state it is underpowered compared to "easymode" mods like clotting agent. ive been pairing percussions grenades with kevlar which rewards high accuracy and fast reaction time. right now people just call it "noob loadout" because they dont understand how much skill it actually takes to win fights with it. if anything kevlar 3 + percussions should be considered an ON TOP tier strategy because of how hard it is since you need a lot of game sense and positioning to use it, its actually one of the highest skill loadouts in the game if you think about it. kevlar 3 deserves a serious buff, either reduce the speed penalty or make it give more health maybe +40% at a minimum. this would actually help it compete in the current meta where most tournament level players use ntec and .45 combo using fragile or clotting agent. Kevlar 3 is good at it's current state, no need to buff anything ^_^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jama 10 Posted August 20 Kevlar + LMG makes meta players seethe. which means it's fun to play But it's already exhausting enough to play against so don't touch it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 479 Posted August 20 9 hours ago, EC2Jonathan said: kevlar 3 deserves a serious buff, either reduce the speed penalty or make it give more health maybe +40% at a minimum. Hate to say it, but I totally agree with the 'clown'. I think K3 makes you run way too slow for what it is, its not a Bomb suit. None of the K 1,2,3 are worth wearing, n if ya have 3 on, you get maybe one extra shot or two if its a smaller gun, but mostly one more shot till you're dead, i have no clue how or if you heal after the fact if wearing kev. Kevlar doesn't work that way in real life, unless you hit the same spot more than once. The kevlar will continue to take rounds in other areas without harm, more than a bruise, and it could knock ya down, knock the wind out of ya. but u wont be dead. It should be both buffed and the run speed penalty reduced. In comparison to running fragile which puts at about 85% of health, meaning one good sniper takes you out. but smaller guns you get again one shot and you'll live, to compare with kev 3 where u would get the same one extra shot taken from a small gun or a sniper. I mean your kev models should give much more to k 1,2 to be worth anything, and k3 should be very sturdy. It should stop 2 or more high power rounds, 3,4 rounds of smaller guns, it should also stop an equal amount of damage taken by frag type nades. And you need to rebuff or unnerf the perc's effect on stamina. Just my 2 cent. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EC2Jonathan 20 Posted August 20 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ardita said: Kevlar 3 is weak at it's current state, need to buff everything ^_^ hi ardita...... you know what.... I agree with you, id never argue with you. Edited August 20 by EC2Jonathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 204 Posted August 20 People don't like surprises. Kevlar is one of them. Something like: - Haha, I'm the great father of the game, now I'm going to kill this noob with my AP45 pistol. A noob kills the father of the game. The father of the game looks at the characteristics of the noob, trying to justify himself in losing. And here it is! Saving excuse - Kevlar 3. The father of the game is justified, the noob has heard many new words about his close relatives. Classic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 212 Posted August 21 On 8/20/2025 at 7:12 AM, Ardita said: Kevlar 3 is good at it's current state, no need to buff anything ^_^ 15 hours ago, EC2Jonathan said: hi ardita...... you know what.... I agree with you, id never argue with you. So you changed my quote to make you look good >_< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilyas 19 Posted August 21 I reiterate that Kevlar 3 should be renamed to Diapers Mode. Here is some concept art for the icon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruhd101 32 Posted August 22 On 8/20/2025 at 5:58 AM, Jama said: Kevlar + LMG makes meta players seethe. which means it's fun to play But it's already exhausting enough to play against so don't touch it. Hey that's me, except it doesn't really go well with the kind of gold players I fight off who kill me as fast as they do when I don't use it at all face to face Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a Pair of Socks 126 Posted August 23 (edited) Edited August 23 by a Pair of Socks Buff Kev 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowhorseman 451 Posted August 24 i'm good. all kev does is be annoying. and besides when you face off 90% of players they ust 1-2 you with the 45 regradless of kev cloat or fragile. so there really isn't a point to buffing it And bedies who likes walking around like your pants are full. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EC2Jonathan 20 Posted Monday at 02:23 AM On 8/23/2025 at 8:18 PM, cowhorseman said: i'm good. all kev does is be annoying. and besides when you face off 90% of players they ust 1-2 you with the 45 regradless of kev cloat or fragile. so there really isn't a point to buffing it And bedies who likes walking around like your pants are full. yes, it should atleast give you +40% health on the lowend. another way they could buff kevlar 3 is by lowering the speed penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koenyboy500 77 Posted Monday at 09:42 PM Honestly I'd rather see the slowness penalty be reduced slightly. Running Kevlar 3 in this meta and enviroment already means that you are not running any sort of level of Clotting Agent, which is an indirect penalty all on itself. Giving MORE health would be problematic and unfun to play against, whereas being a bit more mobile makes the perk less frustrating to use AND you still have to play around the downside of 'its not Clotting Agent'. (<I am not a Clotting Agent slave by the way, I love running Kevlar and Fragile strategicaly). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 212 Posted Tuesday at 06:55 AM On 8/21/2025 at 3:55 PM, Ilyas said: I reiterate that Kevlar 3 should be renamed to Diapers Mode. Here is some concept art for the icon The fact that you're slow a*s f**k won't make you diapers mode at all. It's not that hard to kill a kevlar 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EC2Jonathan 20 Posted Wednesday at 01:01 AM (edited) On 8/26/2025 at 2:55 AM, Ardita said: The fact that you're slow a*s f**k won't make you diapers mode at all. It's not that hard to kill a kevlar 3 Ardita, MCD Clan Scouts have been admiring your gameplay for some time now. Although your stance on Kevlar 3 does not entirely align with the core values of McDoubler University, your loyalty to the Golden Arches has not gone unnoticed. We are thrilled to formally invite you to the MCD clan ahead of time in case the servers ever merge. - This MCD Clan invitation is nonexpiring and grants the user one waitlist skip to immediately join. Our clan typically has a 6-8 month waitlist depending on the retail environment. Whisper our CEO EC2Crimimal in-game for more details. Edited Wednesday at 11:22 AM by EC2Jonathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 212 Posted Wednesday at 12:40 PM 11 hours ago, EC2Jonathan said: Ardita, MCD Clan Scouts have been admiring your gameplay for some time now. Although your stance on Kevlar 3 does not entirely align with the core values of McDoubler University, your loyalty to the Golden Arches has not gone unnoticed. We are thrilled to formally invite you to the MCD clan ahead of time in case the servers ever merge. I am honoured. How about merge with Burger King first then we'll see how it goes? :3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexerin 1153 Posted Wednesday at 03:37 PM @Todesklinge 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koenyboy500 77 Posted Wednesday at 09:19 PM I'm afraid that if you wanted to go all "Joker" (Ammo?) Going all "Clown" was a poor choice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoxieBragg 3 Posted Wednesday at 11:10 PM I wear Fragile. lol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koenyboy500 77 Posted Wednesday at 11:38 PM 25 minutes ago, RoxieBragg said: I wear Fragile. lol. I feel like Fragile users are 1) very, very awesome. 2) have that DBZ-stereotype of training with weighted clothing (ironically). Once they start putting Fragile away they have a good chance of being 'simply better' than those who didn't train with it. I respect other Fragile users whenever I encounter them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victoria97 42 Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM Only kev3 complainers are usually cheaters who get mad because they didn't add your death upon their 50 kills achieved in 1 minute. Kev3 is completely different style of gameplay. Tank and static opposed to speed runners and fanatical jumper shooters. Its easy to use ca3 when you use triggerbot or aimbot and you can jump with sniper in cqc combat and hit every shot in fc. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteamAnimator 4 Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM On 8/21/2025 at 4:49 PM, Uhtdred said: I agree completely! Kelvar 3 definitely needs a buff!! Wow, so great to meet such a likeminded individual!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThumpHer 2 Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM (edited) On 8/19/2025 at 10:19 PM, EC2Jonathan said: i dont get why people complain about kevlar 3 so much. in its current state it is underpowered compared to easymode mods like clotting agent. ive been pairing percussions grenades with kevlar which rewards high accuracy and fast reaction time. right now people just call it a noob loadout because they dont understand how much skill it actually takes to win fights with it. if anything kevlar 3 + percussions should be considered an ON TOP tier strategy because of how hard it is since you need a lot of game sense and positioning to use it, its actually one of the highest skill loadouts in the game if you think about it because of the disadvantages kevlar 3 comes with. kevlar 3 deserves a serious buff, either reduce the speed penalty or make it give more health, maybe +40% at a minimum. in its current state it only lets you survive one or two more shots depending on the gun, i mean this in itself is ridiculous. this would actually help it compete in the current meta where most tournament level player uses a vbr huntress. a lot of players do however use the ntec and .45 combo paired with fragile or clotting agent. I agree with OP. Kevlar needs a desperate rework, it is not competitive in its current state. On EU most players use CA3 and occasionally fragile. This would be a balanced yet effective version of a "Kevlar 4" I believe. Compare this to the stats of "Kevlar 3", where the disadvantages outweigh the benefits. (P.S. sorry for widescreen shot i play in 4:3) +45% Player health -20% Reduces crouch speed +20% Time to climb ladders +20% Time to kick doors open Let me know your thoughts on this Edited yesterday at 02:36 AM by ThumpHer 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites