Second Chances

[PingOVER9000 186]

45 minutes ago, LilyRain said:

9 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

why even ban if it makes no difference?

Cheaters will cheat anyway

 

You didnt get the point or you're just a hypocrite as ScamPuss . . .

 

 

 

 

 

[Hexerin 1114]

36 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

why even ban if it makes no difference?

That is one of the philosophical questions of video game bans, and one that has no definite answer.

25 minutes ago, Sayori said:

Suddenly, "a multi-year ban for those kinds of mistakes seems punishment enough.". What a coincidence, they just decided that this is long enough punishment.

You do realize that it is possible for people to change, right? Granted, not everyone will, and it's debatable whether those that possess the capacity to change are the majority or minority. However, the fact remains that some people do, and it's morally acceptable to give those people redemption.

[CookiePuss 5357]

31 minutes ago, PingOVER9000 said:

 

You didnt get the point or you're just a hypocrite as ScamPuss . . .

 

 

 

 

 

Friend I don’t know if something is lost in translation, but I never know what you are talking about. 

[BlatMan 684]

29 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

That is one of the philosophical questions of video game bans, and one that has no definite answer.

You do realize that it is possible for people to change, right? Granted, not everyone will, and it's debatable whether those that possess the capacity to change are the majority or minority. However, the fact remains that some people do, and it's morally acceptable to give those people redemption.

People don't really change, they just follow the path of least resistance. If creating new accounts feels more restrictive than playing legit, they'll play legit. Giving them their old account back negates that feeling.

 

I can see the future. This new anti-cheat will have another wave of "false" bans, and LO will unban everyone.

[PingOVER9000 186]

2 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Friend I don’t know if something is lost in translation, but I never know what you are talking about. 

Here of "Lost", it's the embarrassment of how much this game and Little Orbit has sunk down so much it'll make laugh a stuffed chicken inside a Oven ... Same for the bs you're writing for years, " Friend "

Edited June 23 by PingOVER9000

[LilyRain 640]

3 hours ago, PingOVER9000 said:

You didnt get the point or you're just a hypocrite as ScamPuss . . .

What point would that be, the delusion that banning Cheaters or keeping them banned would stop them? Are you not aware of the simple fact that Cheaters don't need any permanent account to do their thing?

 

Let's be real. If you were amongst those that got falsely banned, would you agree to stay banned.... Be the sacrifice in order for throwabble cheat-accounts to stay banned?

 

We both know your answer to that is no. Therefore, you're the hypocrite here.

[CookiePuss 5357]

2 hours ago, PingOVER9000 said:

Here of "Lost", it's the embarrassment of how much this game and Little Orbit has sunk down so much it'll make laugh a stuffed chicken inside a Oven ... Same for the bs you're writing for years, " Friend "

I’m sorry I just don’t understand you. 

[vsb 6140]

if all eac bans are now being reviewed manually to catch false bans, why can't the same method be used for previous bans to determine which ones were false bans?

[Hexerin 1114]

2 hours ago, vsb said:

if all eac bans are now being reviewed manually to catch false bans, why can't the same method be used for previous bans to determine which ones were false bans?

Manual review requires manual effort by a person. With LO being comprised of only a few people, it's obviously not feasible to manually review the probably thousands of banned accounts to find the handful that were actually falsely banned. It's much more reasonable to just globally unban all banned accounts, and then review new bans as they happen. Not a complicated thing to understand.

[vsb 6140]

9 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

Manual review requires manual effort by a person. With LO being comprised of only a few people, it's obviously not feasible to manually review the probably thousands of banned accounts to find the handful that were actually falsely banned. It's much more reasonable to just globally unban all banned accounts, and then review new bans as they happen. Not a complicated thing to understand.

if they’ve had thousands (lmao) of bans in the last 7 months then they’re going to have thousands of bans moving forward as well lol, either they can handle a review of past bans or they can’t handle it and future manual bans are going to be fucked anyway

 

 

 

[MACKxBOLAN 392]

11 hours ago, vsb said:

future manual bans

Won't be any manual bans, not for hacking. Only people gonna get banned now are those that speak out against 

hackers. Which means me. 

 But all you hacker helpers keep running your mouths in chat.

Do You think You Own chat. 

Do You really think you're fooling people to be running multiple pc and have 

Your second pc as your 'Buddy in Training' That You are allegedly Teaching.

Your error in thinking is that If you ward Mack off chat that you win some popularity points

with all the blatants. All this has done is show your allegiance to the hackers.

The only thing You're doing is keeping me from spending, and the way I see it. 

Matt condones the actions of these toxics and the hackers. 

Keep it up, I could always clone you. Be real ez. I got 4 slots im not even using.

You gonna look awful funny telling yourself to shut up. 

Thats why I say Toxics, Golds, Hackers Hate fun, hate anyone in chat thats not hacking. 

I think Matt gets the same jollys off of letting toxics into bronze district as the hackers do 

by hacking, he seems to think back stabbing his customers is an acceptable way to run a business. 

Now I realize that Matt probly doesn't personally know all these hackers and toxics, but he did this. 

And deserves to take part of the blame. Every line of toxic chat, every shot fired by an aimbot or smooth aim.

Each time and or line is partially blamed directly on Matt. Not only did he let them in, he rewards toxicity with Gold. 

 I don't much care about my account with the mass of criminals in district, and yes i consider them actual real life criminals. 

I'm putting it down right here, YOU Messed with the Wrong Person. 

 

[VerreckDuSau 7]

Ohyess i love apb reloaded 

[Darkzero3802 585]

So basically put APB once again tried to use a half patootie anti cheat solution that failed epically and instead of actually doing the work to see what was legit or wasnt they let all the hackers once again run rampant in game by unbanning their main accounts. Here is an idea. Start caring enough to have a 0 tolerance policy and get an anti cheat that works, both server and client side. Then have GMs who care about the game to watch it and ban hackers on the spot instead of ones that just babysit, troll and dont do anything. In my 13+ years playing APB and moreso gaming in general I have never seen a company that screwed up as badly as G1/LO, and then repeat the same mistakes over and over.

[BlatMan 684]

Since EAC won't be used, and Battleye most likely won't make a return, does this mean we can use DXVK (DirectX to Vulcan translator) and play on Windows 7?

[FakeBungo 244]

wow guys another genius idea to unban the cheaters

[NinjaBlood 1]

isn't that third chance already ?

[MACKxBOLAN 392]

Matt is corrupt, LO is corrupt. 

This is conspiresy to commit wire fraud. The staff are involved. 

It is a conspiresy due to LO being involved with the site selling hax. 

Do to LO bringing toxics and hackers into district to harass the only Legit player. 

@Staff Your childish insults and rhetoric dont scare me, I refuse to spend on armas, 

I will never buy your hacks, no matter how many of your friends you let it, tell me to 

uninstall if I wont buy hax. go ahead ban me, ill be back. I will chase your hacker friends

 to the depths of Hell.

At this time I will not turn you in for conspiresy to commit fed wire fraud because the Justice 

dept is extremely corrupt. You have till the US Election to ban and Jail your friends. 

After we Win, I will call the Justice Dept, and not I'm kidding or talking smack. 

I believe crimes have been committed, and I will not withhold that information.

Regardless if you reban or clean up your act's, I will still inform Justice. 

 Let them investigate. You people belong in Prison. 

[Gro 103]

Tfw you are so desperate at 200 players pop, you just lift all banned scum.

[BlatMan 684]

On 6/23/2024 at 7:47 PM, Hexerin said:

Manual review requires manual effort by a person. With LO being comprised of only a few people, it's obviously not feasible to manually review the probably thousands of banned accounts to find the handful that were actually falsely banned. It's much more reasonable to just globally unban all banned accounts, and then review new bans as they happen. Not a complicated thing to understand.

And it's not hard to add notes to bans that confirm cheating from the cheaters perspective, like the few I've reported. I bet they screwed up their ticket database when migrating to zendesk, and gave up because the only person who probably knows their old system was fired.

[explosiveUA 48]

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Contact support... but she ignores msgs even after a week)

ggwp

[Mitne 713]

Well. Time for me to slowly resign from this game.

[Darkzero3802 585]

The problem is that Matt and LO either dont care, are extremely lazy, are too cheap, dumb or all of the above. They have had the game long enough to have learned what works and what doesnt, yet they repeat what they do over and over and expect different results. The last mass unban wave was also on EAC, because it falsely banned a ton of players and they couldnt track true bans from fasle bans. Wait that sounds exactly like what just happened now. History repeated itself, because LO repeated itself. Same choice same result. Matt needs to wake up and do whats needed. As I said earlier. Start caring enough to have a 0 tolerance policy and get an anti cheat that works, both server and client side. Then have GMs who care about the game to watch it and ban hackers on the spot instead of ones that just babysit, troll and dont do anything. GMs currently just show up in game, do what they want, ignore problems and tell you to go away. If Matt wants to revive the game and make money this isnt the way it will be done.

[Y2Venom 205]

On 6/23/2024 at 3:57 PM, Sayori said:

If 35% have been falsely banned then unban them - the rest?

35% of the mafia were falsly imprisoned.

[MACKxBOLAN 392]

51 minutes ago, Y2Venom said:

35%

35% found to be or suspected to be false bans for hacking. 

This is hard to believe but acceptable. in that. 

We know, for a fact. EAC was cracked and or bypassed within 12hrs of its install. 

So We know that most of the hackers had a way around EAC. 

And to be fair, I know that the 35 figure is including bans from EU. 

But, from the NA prospective, and factoring in the bypass of EAC factor.

There were almost no hacking related bans in NA. 

Only bans for behavior, one legit banned for out of bounds, and one 

designer banned for shades or layers or one of them things. 

To My knowledge and based on daily playing and seeing susp players 

continuing to play. 

 So. The only people banned were for toxic behavior. and the two i mentioned.

So from my point of view, EAC couldn't have banned anyone because it couldn't detect them. 

So LO finds fault. and decides these alleged bans were false, and cannot just unban those people.

They must unban everyone banned by the EAC, which includes it seems. those banned strictly for toxic 

behavior. I might add that the Legit they banned has not returned. Gee I wonder Why.

 So adding all this math together, brings me to the sum of, LO let loads of toxic players return.

Adding to the hackers we already had, cuz some of them came back in n went blatant.

So now its a few more hackers and a truck load of toxics.

So You expect me a Legit, to be quiet, not hacusate, not goldisate, follow all the rules.

Yet You let these people come back in and insult and badger and harass Legit players

without any fear of being banned. EAC was worthless to begin with but now its off, so all 

of LO's buddys are hacking it up, name calling legits. 

So, after all this time Matt admits that EAC is bad, and that the software module's to finish 

The Mirage car are 'Just Sitting There'. So were gonna tell everyone that EAC is going out, 

and so even more people started hacking. We gonna let loads of toxics back into the game 

because 35% of hacking bans were false. So we gonna let these people over here who we know 

were guilty back in because 35% of these other people were false banned for 3rd party, And 

were have no plans to finish the car, were gonna keep letting the software sit there n gather dust. 

So its a one sided game. There are those allowed to break rules and cheat, and there are those like 

me who are expected to follow all the rules and feed the hackers and toxics. 

  Yet you dont want to fix the car and sell me the kits and more cars. 

I'm confused, So you don't want my money? Yet You understand the basic physics of a Business. 

[Y2Venom 205]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

35% found to be or suspected to be false bans for hacking. 

This is hard to believe but acceptable.

 

I find this hard to believe also, considering the number of genuine players i know. Statistically 4 of them should be false banned, but not 1 has been banned. Its just bizzar. Cheaters seem to get more love then new players or OG's.

 

Also, if you have a rat problem, you dont introduce more rats.