iRawwwN 286 Posted August 29, 2023 thoughts; STAR gets a rework into a 3-burst OBIR-esque weapon. first 3 are low bloom, 4th shot if fired rapidly turns to current 4th shot bloom in STAR. n-tec now default weapon. thoughts? lets have a discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowhorseman 441 Posted August 30, 2023 why. explain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winter Shyvana 31 Posted August 30, 2023 Short answer: No! Long answer: Noooooo! Seriously, why? The STAR is fine as it is, why make such a change? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted August 30, 2023 We need less N-TECs, not more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted August 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, GhosT said: We need less N-TECs, not more. If you aren’t running ntec and .45 while wearing all black clothing, 3D glasses and the crown, all while driving a Coywolf are you even playing APB? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosi 722 Posted August 30, 2023 I would love a burst assault rifle but I think reworking the STAR would be a bad way to go about it, even if NTEC is better in most things, STAR is still an easier weapon overall so I think it fits as the new player weapon quite well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRawwwN 286 Posted August 30, 2023 21 hours ago, vsb said: no I said discuss, not just say no. Quit being a *****. 20 hours ago, cowhorseman said: why. explain. Because STAR is not a good default weapon and everyone uses N-Tec anyway. 12 hours ago, Winter Shyvana said: Short answer: No! Long answer: Noooooo! Seriously, why? The STAR is fine as it is, why make such a change? If you do anything to the STAR you just make another N-Tec. Why have more n-tecs? 9 hours ago, GhosT said: We need less N-TECs, not more. ? You need a base rifle to then balance the weapons around it. 9 hours ago, CookiePuss said: If you aren’t running ntec and .45 while wearing all black clothing, 3D glasses and the crown, all while driving a Coywolf are you even playing APB? You say this, but we're at 300 pop and nothing you/SCPT has done has helped this game. (I know you are just testers, and LO needs to listen but you are still "them". 2 hours ago, R3ACT3M said: snip meh 1 hour ago, Frosi said: I would love a burst assault rifle but I think reworking the STAR would be a bad way to go about it, even if NTEC is better in most things, STAR is still an easier weapon overall so I think it fits as the new player weapon quite well. It's "easier" but you still get trampled by an N-Tec. It's hard to balance these guns with such little data to go off I can only assume, but the STAR just doesn't work, imo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, iRawwwN said: I said discuss, not just say no. Quit being a *****. Fine. What does this balance change solve? The N-TEC will still be better than the STAR. New players will have a harder time with a more complex starting weapon. Chances are the STAR will actually end up performing worse as a burst fire assault rifle than it does now. The STAR plays differently enough from the N-TEC to justify its existence and it also has a specific gameplay purpose. Meanwhile the Ursus, Scoped N-TEC, and even the FAR are all way closer to redundant overlap with the base N-TEC, so why not mangle one of them instead? Or why not revive a truly dead gun, and rework the ISSR-A? Edited August 31, 2023 by vsb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, iRawwwN said: ? You need a base rifle to then balance the weapons around it. So... the STAR? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowhorseman 441 Posted August 31, 2023 The star is a good weapon. has very few issues can be used cqc to. See the thing is you gotta practice with the guns. i still remeber people giving me shit for using the odin or hel aswell as other non meta guns becuase they never play them therefore they do not know how to counter them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 718 Posted August 31, 2023 Does it matter how the weapon functions when the hitreg doesn't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruhd101 25 Posted August 31, 2023 23 hours ago, CookiePuss said: If you aren’t running ntec and .45 while wearing all black clothing, 3D glasses and the crown, all while driving a Coywolf are you even playing APB? Do You mean with edgy clothes or looking like a stripper while in a Vegas ... Or what am saying is just a Jericho server exclusive thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Bruhd101 said: Do You mean with edgy clothes or looking like a stripper while in a Vegas ... Or what am saying is just a Jericho server exclusive thing As long as you are a minimum height female with hairstyle #2, you’re ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PingOVER9000 189 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) On 8/30/2023 at 12:40 AM, iRawwwN said: thoughts; STAR gets a rework into a 3-burst OBIR-esque weapon. first 3 are low bloom, 4th shot if fired rapidly turns to current 4th shot bloom in STAR. n-tec now default weapon. thoughts? lets have a discussion. we have already a STAR for long range.. The Star LCR Old Glory https://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_AssaultRifle_STAR-LCR_PR3_5Day and OFC after ages it's a scam sh*t purchase Edited August 31, 2023 by PingOVER9000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted August 31, 2023 4 hours ago, CookiePuss said: As long as you are a minimum height female with hairstyle #2, you’re ok. Don't forget a /strikeapose2 every now and then. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruhd101 25 Posted August 31, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 6:44 PM, GhosT said: Don't forget a /strikeapose2 every now and then. Or /chuckle Merged. On 8/31/2023 at 2:12 PM, CookiePuss said: As long as you are a minimum height female with hairstyle #2, you’re ok. Then I've never been playing Apb, I've been playing FIFA 11, TF2, Saints row 2 and midnight club 3 dub edition this whole time 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pesto 11 Posted September 1, 2023 star is better then n-tec 5 only reason why people don't use it because it's not 3 open slots version and looks kinda ugly. that's all. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deftonez 125 Posted September 1, 2023 APB discourse is truly in its prime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites