GhosT 1301 Posted January 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: The reg Ntec and vas reskin can kill in 5 shots currently. Has always been that way. LO is proposing 6 shots to kill in the future. The Ursus is longer range then the basic ntec but with slightly slower fire rate as compensation, it also doesnt have as much recoil. Think of the Ursus as a buffed star LCR. y..wh... what? Every single thing you wrote is absolutely wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DedGaem 146 Posted January 12, 2020 Me: WTT/S Volcano player1: trade Bloody Mary + cap40 for volcano Me: sure Me: WTT/S Bloody Mary and/or Cap40 player2: trade Ogre for Bloody Mary + Cap40 Me: sure Me: dying with ogre cos I'm noob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hey! said: Me: WTT/S Volcano player1: trade Bloody Mary + cap40 for volcano Me: sure Me: WTT/S Bloody Mary and/or Cap40 player2: trade Ogre for Bloody Mary + Cap40 Me: sure Me: dying with ogre cos I'm noob Lot of trouble to go through for a worse NFAS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted January 13, 2020 I would trade Ursus for a Volcano, if i didn't have both. You can substitute for an Ursus with another N-Tec or any other HVR/DMR - but a volcano is something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sniperturtle said: You can substitute for an Ursus with any other HVR/DMR I don't think I understand. Edited January 13, 2020 by CookiePuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Queenie 8 Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Sniperturtle said: You can substitute for an Ursus with another N-Tec or any other HVR/DMR. Comparing the Usrus to a DMR/HVR has got to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specia 11 Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 9:20 AM, foscor77 said: player 1 - wtt ursus me- 3.5 mil player 1 - are you out of your fucking mind? Its worth 6 mil. player 2 - wtt ursus me - medusa + nano player 2 - nice joke. gtfo. player 3 - wtt ursus me- nano + volcano player 3 - volcano is a horrible gun and nano is a reskin. stop wasting my time. me - well ursus is a also a reskin of simple ntech while volcano is actually one of the most unique gun. player 3 - i dont wanna trade with you. gtfo. So ive never gotten enough curses in all my gameplay thrown at me as much as i goten via me looking to buy ntech ursus. What is going? Why are people so crazy over ntech? And what would it take for these angry people to just say no or at least negotiate? And I actually did bought a ntech by selling my volcano for 3 mil and nano for 1.7 mil. Collected 4.7 mil and bought a ursus for 4 million from a sensible person. people are just toxic on apb in general sadly, i hope you enjoy the ursus. the only thing to do to fix negative and toxic behavior is mods actually warning people. with Gamers first n little orbit allowing everyone to do as they pleas even if its being completly toxic or even ddosing they wont care one bit. overall they dont give a fuck about us as a player... Merged. On 1/11/2020 at 9:56 AM, botting said: The Ursus is not similar to N-TEC outside of name. The Ursus has a 5 shots to kill where regular N-TEC is 6. The popularity of it and reason it is often sold for 6m is because it's simply a really good gun, so it is in higher demand than the others. Legendaris is always a little better than others. Exept ogre is fairly just op but i find that most main hand legendaris offer a advantages over the regular gun, but only by a small procent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilleroo 349 Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 9:20 PM, Darkzero3802 said: The reg Ntec and vas reskin can kill in 5 shots currently. Has always been that way. LO is proposing 6 shots to kill in the future. The Ursus is longer range then the basic ntec but with slightly slower fire rate as compensation, it also doesnt have as much recoil. Think of the Ursus as a buffed star LCR. Doubled down too, big oof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 10:20 PM, Darkzero3802 said: The reg Ntec and vas reskin can kill in 5 shots currently. Has always been that way. LO is proposing 6 shots to kill in the future. 3 minutes ago, Evagelyne said: Doubled down too, big oof. IKR? 1 hour ago, Specia said: Legendaris is always a little better than others. Exept ogre is fairly just op but i find that most main hand legendaris offer a advantages over the regular gun, but only by a small procent. In case anyone is reading this, it is misleading. At best the Legendary versions are just "different" than their non-legendary counterparts (or have no counterpart), or they are demonstrably worse. Never try for legendaries thinking its going to improve your kdr or win/loss ratio, because they wont. Only try for them if you think they look cool (collector) or the specific difference appeals to you. I tell you this as a player who has used them all, and now uses not even one. (I still own dozens, they just sit in a locker) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specia 11 Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, CookiePuss said: IKR? In case anyone is reading this, it is misleading. At best the Legendary versions are just "different" than their non-legendary counterparts (or have no counterpart), or they are demonstrably worse. Never try for legendaries thinking its going to improve your kdr or win/loss ratio, because they wont. Only try for them if you think they look cool (collector) or the specific difference appeals to you. I tell you this as a player who has used them all, and now uses not even one. (I still own dozens, they just sit in a locker) Well we All have different opinion dont we Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Specia said: Well we All have different opinion dont we In this case I go by weapon stats, not opinions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specia 11 Posted January 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: In this case I go by weapon stats, not opinions. Sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Specia said: Sure If you have a weapon on which you disagree, Id be happy to explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specia 11 Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, CookiePuss said: If you have a weapon on which you disagree, Id be happy to explain. Im good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Specia said: Im good Fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SK4LP 62 Posted January 13, 2020 ursus + ir3 == laser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Queenie said: Comparing the Usrus to a DMR/HVR has got to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. I didn't compare anything, but you can substitute for it, duh. Point is: You don't give away your only Volcano for an Ursus. Edited January 13, 2020 by Sniperturtle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sniperturtle said: I didn't compare anything, but you can substitute for it, duh. Point is: You don't give away your only Volcano for an Ursus. i think it’s understandable that people might want a permanent all around effective primary (ursus) over a pretty niche and limited one (volcano), especially if they aren’t big spenders and only have 1 or 2 permanent weapons in their locker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted January 14, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 1:54 PM, Solamente said: i think it’s understandable that people might want a permanent all around effective primary (ursus) over a pretty niche and limited one (volcano), especially if they aren’t big spenders and only have 1 or 2 permanent weapons in their locker Nah, you should always have an explosive weapons for vehicle missions or taking out campers. The ursus is good but easily replaced by the ntec. I would never give up my only permanent explosive weapon for the ursus. Plus I love the shock and cursing I receive when I blow up a group of players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, illgot said: Nah, you should always have an explosive weapons for vehicle missions or taking out campers. The ursus is good but easily replaced by the ntec. I would never give up my only permanent explosive weapon for the ursus. Plus I love the shock and cursing I receive when I blow up a group of players. it’s a pretty established fact that explosives have a pretty low skill ceiling - a pair of concs and a very flexible primary will often equal or outperform explosives when it comes to vehicle missions or campers, with the added bonus of being effective outside of those situations as well someone looking for a permanent gun is going to benefit more from the ursus than the volcano, unless as you said they already have a permanent ntec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Solamente said: it’s a pretty established fact that explosives have a pretty low skill ceiling - a pair of concs and a very flexible primary will often equal or outperform explosives when it comes to vehicle missions or campers, with the added bonus of being effective outside of those situations as well someone looking for a permanent gun is going to benefit more from the ursus than the volcano, unless as you said they already have a permanent ntec Yes but when the ntec is cheap or free for an open 3 slot, having unlimited quick access to a rocket launcher is preferable over an ursus which is just a side grade. This is partly why I want explosive weapons on Armas. The volcano is too important an option to pass up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 417 Posted January 15, 2020 6 hours ago, illgot said: Nah, you should always have an explosive weapons for vehicle missions or taking out campers. The ursus is good but easily replaced by the ntec. I would never give up my only permanent explosive weapon for the ursus. Plus I love the shock and cursing I receive when I blow up a group of players. honestly though i prefer the osmaw over volcano, im sure others are the same, so an URSUS is honestly better at that point. I got perm alig as well though so /shrug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said: honestly though i prefer the osmaw over volcano, im sure others are the same, so an URSUS is honestly better at that point. I got perm alig as well though so /shrug I got the volcano before permanent osmaws became possible for me. When the volcano first came out people were selling it for under a million because it wasn't like the osmaw so I picked it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted January 15, 2020 UrSuS iS oVeRpOwErEd ThAtS wHy ItS sO eXpEnSiVe!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites