vsb 6171 Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pufty said: but how can I tell when I haven't even tried? because your gameplay experience and mechanical knowledge allows you to extrapolate the likely results of the balance changes? if you don’t have either i guess i can see how it would be difficult to judge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiBBz 38 Posted July 24, 2019 New content... PepeHype! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Microtea 23 Posted July 24, 2019 Okay, but no N-tec nerf? nTeC Is FiNe xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted July 24, 2019 As someone whose experience with APB Lore is deleting those fluff emails you get from time-to-time. Are Lucas Van Rooyen and Lynette Casey finally being brought forward after laying dormant in the game's files for years, or are they new creations? But most importantly: What will their Joker Daily Tasks be? Also, I'm guessing Red Hill is a Japanese corp. by the look of all these skins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted July 24, 2019 While I may not agree with all of these changes, I am very excited to see the meta shaken up. This game either changes, or dies. (IMO) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, KnifuWaifu said: As someone whose experience with APB Lore is deleting those fluff emails you get from time-to-time. Are Lucas Van Rooyen and Lynette Casey finally being brought forward after laying dormant in the game's files for years, or are they new creations? But most importantly: What will their Joker Daily Tasks be? Also, I'm guessing Red Hill is a Japanese corp. by the look of all these skins. van rooyen and casey were created by g1 and were to be the next 20 level specialist contacts, but g1 either couldn’t or wouldn’t develop enough content for them (or at least that was what we were told) lore wise they don’t really fit as specialist contacts (lynette casey is just a random prentiss tiger and van rooyen is the bodyguard for the bloodrose faction leader) so i guess it’s nice that little orbit has decided to insert them as mid tier contacts instead considering they’re going to be tier 3 contacts, joker ticket dailies will probably reward 15(?) joker tickets at best 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: While I may not agree with all of these changes, I am very excited to see the meta shaken up. This game either changes, or dies. (IMO) does this really change the meta? aside from the oca and rfp changes there’s a single shotgun that isn’t marginalized, and now that’s being nerfed as well change is not always positive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Glaciers said: van rooyen and casey were created by g1 and were to be the next 20 level specialist contacts, but g1 either couldn’t or wouldn’t develop enough content for them (or at least that was what we were told) lore wise they don’t really fit as specialist contacts (lynette casey is just a random prentiss tiger and van rooyen is the bodyguard for the bloodrose faction leader) so i guess it’s nice that little orbit has decided to insert them as mid tier contacts instead considering they’re going to be tier 3 contacts, joker ticket dailies will probably reward 15(?) joker tickets at best I would love another 15JT daily those are my bread and butter bae. I knew I saw them from somewhere - they're in the character selection screen scenes! Finally a name to the faces for a lore-poor noob like me. I'm glad LO did they're homework and slotted them in at tier 3. 13 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: While I may not agree with all of these changes, I am very excited to see the meta shaken up. This game either changes, or dies. (IMO) I'm not going to lie I hate agreeing with you - but here we are being all agreed with. Edited July 24, 2019 by KnifuWaifu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Glaciers said: does this really change the meta? I mean, it effects carplay, the best cqc and the best secondary. 3 minutes ago, Glaciers said: change is not always positive Or negative 3 minutes ago, KnifuWaifu said: Im not going to lie I hate agreeing with you - but here we are being all agreed with. Did... Did we just become best friends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spyroof 2 Posted July 24, 2019 I'd love to see the traffic lights work again in financial district. Aswell as the possibilty for more light patterns of police cars. Also The ability to create a blue only light setup. Would be awesome if you just could ''change'' the lightbulbs out for blue, red or maybe even an amber option. This game has alot of customization and i'd love to see that still being added! Thanks for listening to us !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Visionaireh 15 Posted July 24, 2019 Nicely done Orbit! I am looking forward to anything that'll shed some light into the current game-play. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, playing it when I can but it's getting repetitive fighting the same people and the same players every single day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269 Posted July 24, 2019 Could you maybe change car spawner while you're at it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHidden-Tember 142 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) woah, radar jammer is getting fixes, yay Also I am 100% am on board with that EMP grenade. Very interesting counter to car-based gameplay! Merged. As for shotguns, I see a red flag in the fact that you're nerfing everything except the shredder, which nearly no one uses. I personally don't care because CQC weapons are unviable in high level play because of their poor range, but really when balancing shotguns please consider the fact that assault rifles can be just as effective as shotguns in CQC. Also what you can't fix corner popping by nerfing shotguns, it's the only reason why semi-auto shotguns exist. It's like trying to fix crouchspamming by nerfing the OBIR or something. APB has various terrains, and if you attack a in a tight area, you should EXPECT to be demolished by shotguns and prepare accordingly with grenades or something (or I dunno, your own shotguns?) Edited July 24, 2019 by TheHidden-Tember 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted July 24, 2019 Great news overall. I'm really happy that something is finally happening and the communication is back. EMP sounds amazing but the questions are: - how many EMP nades will we have - how long will their effect last - will they be instant like percs or do we have to cook them All of this is very important since EMP would only cause a temporary effect unlike normal grenades which can fully kill people or destroy the cars. EMP in this case would be only useful against cars which puts you at a very high disadvantage against normal players. Since EMP is an electric field it should affect the human body too so why not make players get shocked too and affect them with one of the effects below: -confusing controls, -inability to move -switching weapons -dropping weapons Shotgun rework is very needed and about the corner popping thing, just force people to expose themselves more to be able to shoot from behind the corners. As it is right now, if you are good at corner camping you can expose yourself in such a way that you will be nearly impossible to hit but you will be able to shoot at the other person no problem. Make people have to come out more to actually be able to shoot and problem solved. If you are thinking about OCA nerf then you should also look at PMG if you don't want everyone to simply go back to playing PMG like it was in the past. PMG can be ridiculously strong. Many people will say "oh it's rng so it's ok" but it's not really the case, you can be very very consistent with killing people at even 30-40 meters. That's why some people including me call it PMG sniper rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thial said: you can be very very consistent with killing people at even 30-40 meters I hope this is hyperbole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHidden-Tember 142 Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, CookiePuss said: I hope this is hyperbole. I mean CQC guns in general are all about shooting first anyway so if you're consistent at jumping on people unaware, then you're consistent at killing them at mid-range while they're turning around to fire back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, CookiePuss said: I hope this is hyperbole. EM3 RS3 CJ2/CJ3/IR3 have fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHidden-Tember 142 Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Thial said: EM3 RS3 CJ2/CJ3/IR3 have fun HS3/IR3 on submachine guns is fun too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said: HS3/IR3 on submachine guns is fun too yeah with IR3 PMG can become a literal sniper smg since it will have 40m+ dropoff , shoots a little slow so it's up to you if you wanna swap it with CJ but overall despite the rng claims PMG can be accurate AF over long ranges. Can't count how many whispers I have received in the past of people being like wtf bro because I was sniping them with just few shots using a PMG at around 35 meters or more with IR3. It was one of the main smgs everyone played with in the past for a reason. So if we don't wanna see another PMG season LO should definitely pay attention to it too if they are going to nerf OCA. Edited July 24, 2019 by Thial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pufty 113 Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Glaciers said: because your gameplay experience and mechanical knowledge allows you to extrapolate the likely results of the balance changes? if you don’t have either i guess i can see how it would be difficult to judge And still you (or others) judge without actually first having the experience. I'd say to not sabotage something that potentially could improve the experience. And it wouldn't be just you saying something that you don't like, but I mean the people that right off the bat disregard these changes by just vaguely understanding what would happen. You can imagine your likely results, but there's a big possibility that it may be different. Only by a small margin or fully different, it's not 'likely' that you're capable of fully predicting the outcome. If you can predict absolutely everything, kudos and 'hang the witch'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutey 29 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) OCA is fine. Nerf N-TEC 5 and Obir\Obeya CR762 A lot of kids use them with macro and kill instantly from long distance. Edited July 24, 2019 by Cutey 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted July 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said: I mean CQC guns in general are all about shooting first anyway so if you're consistent at jumping on people unaware, then you're consistent at killing them at mid-range while they're turning around to fire back. Can I get some video of consistent PMG kills at 40m please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cutey said: OCA is fine. Nerf N-TEC 5 and Obir\Obeya CR762 A lot of kids use them with macro and kill instantly from long distance. OCA is not fine. Non meta smgs can't compete with it. I mean yeah I've seen some obeya macros but macroing ntec or obir ???? they are literally one of the simplest weapons to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cutey said: OCA is fine. Nerf N-TEC 5 and Obir\Obeya CR762 A lot of kids use them with macro and kill instantly from long distance. Obir and Obeya just got a range nerf though. Also, can we stop with this macro nonsense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Can I get some video of consistent PMG kills at 40m please? Can't you just play the game and try it yourself instead of trying to disprove people simply because they didn't record a video for you ? Here a random video from 2014. I'm sure you can find what you are looking for. PMG works the same way today: Edited July 24, 2019 by Thial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites