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Funny, I brought that up already. Cops can make more money imo.

Then why are you still defending whatever it is you're trying to defend? I thought we've discussed this into the ground. Don't tell someone semantics based hypotheticals if you aren't just going to mention them. If/then/could statements are pointless & usually signify someone just wanting a higher thread count. I've noticed you have an affinity for having to argue things, even without substance which I had assumed was for getting thread count up for rank in community. Please, by all means; share these revolutionary game changing, faction-unique ideas. But don't threaten about them, just state them. Alternatively, that doesn't further diminish the argument of another with X,Y,Z formulas you can't prove on the spot. We have an entire thread to discuss specifics. From my own personal opinion, you've started dereailing this thread for sometime whether you see that or not. Not trying to be disrespectful; but you have to be able to see your own perogative & actions. I know you're smart enough from years of playing with you to see that. We used to be on our friends list for a while & play in game. Well, gotta go for now. Cheers!

Not that I'm aware of, but that are tons of tricks to using LTL efficiently. Message me brother & we can go over them but it's pretty easy.any explosive damage drains high Stam, lethal weapon drain Stam. Falling from heights drains Stam, just practice using PIG during jump shots & learning it's absolute max range by second nature by test firing at Walls. You can zap anyone. I like ACES with taser or certain snipers. Remote car Det with blast radius works wonders in a crowd, jumpshot each target after & go in a circle arresting the 1st downed. The shotgun LTL is an amazing pixel sniper for it too & can jumpshot decently.

Why have I had over 30 pages of of trials I had to go through & delete in the mailbox then? Endless trials on each page... I'm confused if your account isn't glitched. Search screenshots of this same phenomenon. People have made threads about getting rid of the endless trials weapon emails more efficiently. I don't get what you're missing.

No kidding, everyone states that obvious fact. But the truth is sometimes people can't afford a PC. I mentioned this already, please read the entirety of threads first. If console is all people can afford, let them play with PC players, especially if populations are low. There are some players who play games with gamepads that still rek. Let them play how they want.

But then the players who like to hunt Crim's doing that as cops would be jipped.

That's an insane amount of effort put into a thread reply, lol. Take a breather my friend. It I was just half going g off this thing & the road map he talked about as well: https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/2019/4/18/april-update-from-matt Who cares about specifics, the game will develop as it does regardless of how much we argue on the forums.

You get several day long trials in your mailbox all the time. I guess that's if you're actually spending money to begin with in Armas though. at least I think that's how I remember you get all those three and ten day trials and whatnot. Using someone else's vehicle is just the same as if you bought it. You don't make any significant changes to its performance or anything. And they actually give you car trials in your mailbox as well. And using a teammate's car is absolutely necessary at times if they get killed in spawn far away once an objective changes for one example. or communicating with them and asking them, "Hey may I try your car?I've never driven this before." just stop trying to be defensive & find objective points to latch onto for no apparent reason. At this point it just sounds like you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Spend money on Armas first & you'll see that you get all these things. Have you bought something on Armas to refund previously? Did you not get automatic gifts in your mailbox? Doesn't the game award random trials as well? I can't remember. Next, someone is going to argue, "yes but the trials are random and blah blah blah." Just stop. Going into a FC like Asylum & trying the weapon is more than enough to know how it handles in 30 minutes. People could post a picture of a boulder & they'd argue it's a rock. Both are accurate, but the inherit nature of argumentative mentalities still remain.

Thanks. I guess all we have is conjecture until the game moves forward considerably.

If you agree you're not restricted to playing one faction, what's the harm in allowing each of the factions to have their own mechanics? The meer ability to play another faction should not diminish from anothers capabilities for the sake of an imaginary desire in balancing.

What a horrible idea. Plus from a business standpoint; how can you not see that it would hurt profit for them? It makes more people use money for purchases. Even skipping one sale is less money. They don't need to add this. Let's squash this idea now. We want to support the company & help the longevity of the game as much as we can. Quit trying to skimp out on supporting them. It's like pirating MP3s. Just buy the damn CD/album to support your favorite band.

Yeah, I believe Matt said they were implementing this eventually. No one read the road maps/notes anymore? The RIOT was them experimenting with getting the idea down.

That's what the trials are for. Then it converts cash to another digital currency. At best you'd get back that amount of G1C. They will work with you if it's like a 48 hours after your purchase, at least they used to. But this feels like a pointless thread. You can try guns & cars out first before you make your purchase. I feel no sympathy in this.

It would just be fun. No, LTL is very easy w/out percs.

I have a feeling that once they finish the integral parts of the game being updated & all the systems being revamped, they're going to work on a lot of content. Just a little more patience my friends.

If I remember correctly, there was supposed to be neutral territories to combat for like raid zones or something like that in Midtown as well.

I've thought this too, however I'd like to add that a perfect ALIG reskin to match would be the MG34.

I think it would be cool to have some new, beefier trucks. Like Ford Raptors. Strong, high torque, small cab, heavy & can plow decently like a Pioneer. A bit bigger than that small pickup we've had for years.

Since cookie is just massing the same message across threads, I will do the same. I honestly feel after 10,000+ hours (7000 hours on my main Steam account alone,) in this game that LTL is perfectly balanced. the only thing I would ask for is the permanent LTL weapons on Armas. Even if it had to come down to being Max rank cop or whichever rank you are for the corresponding weapons awarded at each level first, that would be a pretty fair trade off. It does get tedious purchasing the Stun OPGL a bunch. Maybe perm. explosive weapons too for everyone with the same system. If you've unlocked the rank in game to get the weapon, you can purchase it indefinitely. Crims don't use tasers in the real world. This game is meant to emulate some things of the real world. Granted it's a video game, tough. Remove ram raiding then, lol. See, that's pointless, crims get to do things cops don't & vice versa. There is no problem with LTL. It's a great dynamic for this game. Plus people lose stamina from other weapons systems or falling from heights, adds to the stuns effectiveness. Stop thinking everything needs to be removed or balanced because another faction lacks access to them. Plus it helps people fulfill their role in the game. Adds to the feeling of being an Enforcer or Criminal.  What next? Remove cops lights & sirens from Enforcers? Now you're just making it a bland team DM game. I feel everyone needs to stop to just stop whining & have fun. I don't see why people feel LTL is underpowered. I feel it's more effective than lethal & well balanced.

What are you talking about? Crims don't use tasers in the real world. This game is meant to emulate some things of the real world. Granted it's a video game, tough. Remove ram raiding then, lol. See, that's pointless, crims get to do things cops don't & vice versa. There is no problem with LTL. It's a great dynamic for this game. Plus people lose stamina from other weapons systems or falling from heights, adds to the stuns effectiveness. Stop thinking everything needs to be removed or balanced because another faction lacks access to them. Plus it helps people fulfill their role in the game. Adds to the feeling of being an Enforcer or Criminal. What next? Remove cops lights & sirens from Enforcers? Now you're just making it a bland team DM game. I feel everyone needs to stop to just stop whining & have fun.

I honestly feel after 10,000+ hours (7000 hours on my main Steam account alone,) in this game that LTL is perfectly balanced. the only thing I would ask for is the permanent LTL weapons on Armas. Even if it had to come down to being Max rank cop or whichever rank you are for the corresponding weapons awarded at each level first, that would be a pretty fair trade off. It does get tedious purchasing the Stun OPGL a bunch. Maybe perm. explosive weapons too for everyone with the same system. If you've unlocked the rank in game to get the weapon, you can purchase it indefinitely.

Oh I'm totally down brother. Invest in game cash on slot machines with a small chance for hitting the big progressive = big jack pot = joker boxes.

I'm confused, did you not read anything? Because so many people believe in segregation that they have committed to making separate places for different castes of people to play. It's self-explanatory, the fallacy within this logic that is. I don't know why people want to believe that they are less than other players, that is so psychologically damaging it's not even funny.

Yet you do spar higher belt ranks throughout the experience. Sometimes facing two & three black belts to promote to ranks below black belt. Did that myself with friends & everyone else who had the same prerequisites at the school in order to advance. Please do not make assumptions on material you do not know. Other flip of that coin however & point of this discussion is they should remove threat so there is not a segregation forcing players to feel less than "better" players. That cowardice mindset is so psychologically damaging & probably the reason for a lot of anthropocentric consequences in our society these days. Same reason that a lot of the younger generations are complaining that older people are too mean or harsh on them. That's what got them to be disciplined & hard asses. Something I doubt most of the youth on here would understand; which because of the content in the game, shouldn't even be playing. But that is neither here nor there. Forcing that segregation further agitates this aftermath.

Everything I have to say to this has already been stated in the previous post. People don't like a challenge anymore even if it seems impossible. Isn't that what all these anime geeks love about superheroes who have overcome the impossible and the time and years and effort and all this it took to get to that point? You'd be surprised at the percentage of players that only like to play the absolute hardest players in the game every time, much as myself. There are a lot of gamers in the world that only play video games on the hardest difficulty when they first get a new game or prefer to play the absolute best players right off the bat. If you get used to crap you become crap, if you get used to the best everything else becomes easy. You will get better I assure you. Your reflexes will become better, you will learn how much faster you need to be or quick thinking. You'll start to notice patterns in how they play & learn from them. You start to realize you will dedicate more thought into being able to stop a particular tactic. Regardless of how much time it takes, you will get better. Black belts in real Life Martial arts for example aren't issued over a short period of time. The rank is awarded once the skill follows. This is no different in personal abilities and improvements in skill on a videogame or anything else in life you can improve in. I do not believe what you said one bit. I know there are others that believe this as well. Just because a vocal minority gets on the forums & posts their opinions or complaints, does not mean they speak for the vast majority.