TheOppositePolarBear

this thread is by far the best one i have ever seen, it has everything a great thread needs XD im not even being sarcastic over here! anyways, lets begin: oh! watchout guys! we have a Bad A- Engineer over here! (BAE) can i call you bae? imma call you bae btw, what up with your writing? are you compensating for something? i mean, look at the size of that... font for real tho, im cringy but you take the cake and all the honors. anyways, im going to rephrase what cookie said, ehem: "you have no control over wich value of the chain of the pseudo-random numbers generated buy whatever algorith APB's function uses , is produced at the moment of you opening your box, specially without knowing wich algorith apb uses or wich seed it used" ...but lets be honest over here, its APB's code, pretty sure it just uses whatever rand() function the language have and it seeds using the clock every time it needs a new number. so... random is random. but i understand you, you dont want to discuss whats random and whats not, you want to discuss how the chance of getting a legendary was reduced, but once again, its kind of... hard to understand you when you write like a first grader on ketamine too bad you arent as pasionate for english as you're for engineering (IF you really are an engineer, but considering how cringy and awkward your writing is, you probably are) just kidding! you would be the 1st engineer i meet who cant hold a decent discussion without having to compensate for his lack of substance by calling people "ignorants" "uneducated" and other insults, trying to feel superior than the rest. i guess you're not an engineer, just because a cringy guy throwing random tantrums in the internet, insulting people instead of trying to discuss their points, and later shielding himself behind a "I am a passionate person and so many times got from the moment I happen to be wrong with some people" would be a complete shame for the engineering profession. oops! i guess you're not pasionate enough to try to put some dignity in the title of "engineer". you kind of behave like a 9 year old tho... mmm... #subscribetopewdiepie ;D what are you going to say? that im"uneducated" or "ignorant" because i decided to make a post about you? such a bad patootie, now try to have a normal discussion beafore throwing random insults and tantrums that i can "call you" with all my "boyfriends"? wow, such a great insult... for a 9 year old kid, come on, is that everything you have? if you're going to be disrespectful, at least try. that im not part of this discussion? you're in a public forum, i can say whatever i want, i dont need an invite, hello, here i am. that "being insulted by a fool douchebag is always Un4Cc3Pt48L3!!!!!!"? wow, such a great samurai we have here! much honor very proud. get off your high horse!... more like a pony tho. what are you going to say? that im a "KEYBOARD LION?" more like a keyboard bear, but still, rawr to you baby still love you BAE im not surpriced but that doesnt mean its not painful to read how APB's code breeds the strong desire to throw it away and redo from 0. best wishes for the mental sanity of all the people involved in this task!

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....... sigh lee lo que puse, es bueno leer lo que ya se hablo antes de opinar. i mean... i can translate if you guys want, he is just complaining about the matchmaking, tutorial and learning curve tho its cagando that has been your daily knowledge nugget

eh? por que preguntas esas cosas? pensas que intento desacreditar todo tu post? osea que solo por atacar uno de tus puntos tengo que estar 100% en contra tuyo? no puedo estar en contra de uno de tus puntos, y a favor de otros? nisiquiera estoy acatando el punto de que el matchmaking sea malo, solo te informaba de que hay cosas haciendose. o necesitas que te diga explicitamente "oh zi tyenez rason"?

en caso de que no sepas lo que esta pasando, LO ya dijo que van a trabajar en el matchmaking luego de actualizar el motor grafico. luego de la actualizacion, va a ser posible hacer fasing entre distritos, el matchmaking va a tener mas jugadores con los cuales trabajar. nisiquiera con un distrito lleno llegas a la cantidad de jugadores que hacen falta para hacer partidas justas.

all these graphic updates would be really "nice to have"s, but i doubt we will ever get it. that kind of stuff is more expensive than you think. on top of that those would get annoying over time, specially if the animation beacomes a cutscene that takes the whole screen, wich would lead to some... less than optimal situations. an option to NOT have them would be needed

i think im at least 3 months late but im not sure

just doing my part, you know for "standing up for independent content creators against mass companies" - /u/iateyourdoglol hitthatsubscribebutton

and how does that proves your point? nobody denies APB's population is in decline. but YOU said LO is ignoring this "large audience" who is "bugged by the mechanics that you think needs to change" and told us to "read the reviews". i read the reviews, find that nobody is complaining about the mechanics you wanted to change, and that LO is not ignoring the audience thats leaving, and actually, they are addressing the biggest complains. so your steamchart doesnt contradicts my point nor proves yours, and we're still lacking proof of your-own-claim so, once again, im still waiting for the proof of your-own-claim that discredits my proof...i mean, YOUR proof, you told us to go read steam reviews.

oh wait, thats not a rebuttal. still waiting on proof on your own claims:

lol, this acutally made me chuckle. yeah, lets totally forget that i actually went to where OP told me all these "unaddressed" complains were, and all i found were eather P2W complains (we both know the real problem here, matchmaking, paid weapons cant even hold a candle to NTEC, OCA and HVR), and complains about stuff LO is already addressing (INCLUDING MATCHMAKING) so please, tell me, where are all these, in OP's words, "the much larger audience, which is the players who left. [...] getting bugged by game mechanics that I think need to change" because all i see from that audience of players who left, are complains about problems that are being addressed. <Sarcasm> because yeah, im pretty sure they left because LO still havent implemented what the greatest game designer ever, saviour of APB, messiah of gaming, overlord and great leader @Adawon, suggested. after all, in APBlations 4:20, he said see? he says "I think needs to change", because he is the greatest designer ever, and nobody would have ever left if this game if LO would have implemented his idea. people didnt left because of -horrible matchmaking -horrendous lag -plain stupid performance on today's hardware -lack of new content -toxic smurf (dethreaters) community -trolls -ridiculous microtransaction pricing -cheaters/hackers and a lack of a proper, working anticheat measure -bugs -low player count -not being able to rank contacts because of waterfront no no no no no no no, they left because they didnt liked pedestrian's IA. </Sarcasm> oh, and while im talking about it, @Adawon , im still waiting for proof that this: exists. ok, maybe using the word "legit" for those reviews that somewhat supported your point (like...2 or 3 out of 40) was a poor choise of words, most people complained about stuff thats already being addressed, and while i went to the places YOU TOLD US to look for this: and bought back proof of that audicence is unexistant (no review suggesting what YOU suggested), and that LO is not ignoring the most voiced complains of the people that left, you keep going on and on and on and on about your "thoughts" without any actual hard proof and even bringing stuff to the table that completely discredits your point. so, when your baised brain stops reading only what you want, and twisting the proof to fit your point of view instead of the other way arround, i would LOVE to see the proof that this actually exists, and dont come here saying "dUUuh, g0To st33m r3V13zzzz", i already did, nothing that helps your cause is to be found there. awwww, he took the work of writing my complete name, upper casing and all you didnt have to, you can just call me polarbear like Bxnnxd does, i mean, yes, ->someone<- might get annoyed if people starts linking "polarbear" to me, but we can say he is just too....unaware of the situation

they could have just make the 3D model with a 9mm mag so it would fit the SMG criteria, its not like things like the MPX are not a thing (you know, guns whose magwell are a noticiable bigger than the magazine itself). probably carbine is not the best name because of the ACES and the 1922... or is it? doesnt people call things like the Cx4 a "carbine"? so probably we can fit those 2 as "carbine"... or at least the ACES. btw, i would also add the manic into this... lets call it "sub-rifle" category. about the cobra, i have never used it so i dont really know how it plays. same with the ISSR, i tried the dog ear but people told me all ISSR plays diferently so i dont know anymore. about the LCR, i thought it already was a marksman rifle. i've allways seen it as such. but yeah, i think these guns plays so diferently they deserve another category.

i didnt marked 40 reviews as non legit, but i see you dont like to read proof i marked how the problems most people who stops playing apb and writes steam reviews complains about, are being addressed by LO. start reading, it wont hurt you.

aw mon chéri, im not french i mean, considering we have this thing as an "SMG": ^clarely a carabine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Precision_Industries_K1 i think judging the gun by its look is out of the window already

aaaaah what ish thish i shee? a non- western spy cheeki breeki weslav camarade came to pay a vishit, i shee dont worry camarade weslav, this western developers are working in your problem as we sheak, you shee, LO ish hard at work, they promish'd to deliver not jusht some new mishions, no no, but a whole new game mode, you can read aaaaalll about that, in the last blog post, aha! in the meanwhile, you can go squat home and enjoy some chebureki with kvass

i dont think he was looking for advice on how to use the oscar.... just a footnote to all what people already said about the diference between auto and semi auto: both semi autos, bumpstock on the left one. also, more bumpstock 1) can i add "carabines" to the classifications? and no, i dont mean it as in "SR-15 carabine" sense, i mean it in the "rifle, but shorter than a rifle so you can use it in more short range situations" sense. i do feel like guns like the ATAC and the RAPTOR doesnt really fit next to the STAR and the NTEC and could use their own classification "between rifle and SMG", thus, carabine. 2) i *think* the idea of calling the oscar/SR15 a "marksman rifle" comes from the idea that, in a high mobility team where everybody is using PMG, OCA and shotguns, a player with a SR-15/OSCAR works as a high movility "marksman" (in the sense that, he has longer range and accuracy) for that team (if they aremoving toghether) i like SIG guns ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nu-uh! when confronted with: YOU replied: so i did, i went to steam reviews, and i bought back proof that debunks your point, proof that the most voiced complains by the players that left are being addressed. in the meanwhile, you have bought NOTHING to prove that there are 100's of players not being listened, all you said was "oh, i suggested this, and that, and its not implemented". well, guess what? you're only one person, you're not 100's of players, and my point stands as proof of the existance of your bias and a personal echo chamber inside your head. but yeah, keep flagging anybody who disagrees with you as a "game veterans who like the game as it is and only think it needs polishing and more content" and any review thats not about changeing/adding a core game mechanic as "non-legit", you do you i guess.

ITT: "LO didnt apply the changes I, me, the greatest videogame designer ever existed, -suggested- (aka: i ORDER them to do), thus, they are not listening to US! the MAYORITY! THE 99%!" and remember kiddos that play apb: I AM NEVER - EVER WRONG, how could i be? nah, its ALL OF YOU the ones on the wrong. ok, lets do it -choose english, order by helpfulness, checks only negative reviews here we go: 1st negative review: complains about no servers in south america; -meh- complain, considering I play from south america without problems, but i can see how some people can feel bad playing with 180ms latency. still, its not so much of a game design choise but a financial choise, if south american servers are not viable, they are simply not viable 2nd review: complains about repetitiveness in missions, low threats facing golds with "better gear". another -meh- complain. i would totally accept it, if it werent because games like CSGO are always the same in competitive, and its pretty darn alive and well. competitive games dont really need to be that varied. low threats facing golds is something LO said they are going to adress with distirct fasing after the engine upgrade, and golds with "better gear"... we have already talking a lot about it, but in short: any good player can perform really good with any free gun with no mods, even a STAR. i can understand where he is comming from tho. 3rd review: just not helpful at all. no real reason given for a bad review. 4th review: complains about P2W, lag, trolling players, "meat shields" (lol), low map variety and ARMAs pricing lag, trolls, map variety and ARMAs pricing are problems LO already said they are working on. we have already discussed a lot in this forums about the P2W aspect of the game, but tl;dr: its not as pay to win as most people think, and no, the paid guns are not an advantage when you get the NTEC,OCA and NHVR for free. the meatshield... lol, in more than 5 years playing this game i have never seen that. 5th reviews: complains about cheaters and ARMAs pricing LO already said they are working on that. 6th review: complains about dated graphics and matchmaking. LO already said they are working on matchmaking and dated graphics... well, guess what? apb is not a 2019 game. 7th review: complains about P2W. .... do i really need to say anything about it? git gud. 8th review: complains about P2W and the toxic community (and highlights Spanked 2 ez and their chat messenges) P2W, already addressed it, toxic community, welcome to the internet. 9th review: complains about the tutorial FINALLY! a legit review. i hope LO does something about it, not sure if they said anything about it. 10th review: complains about matchmaking, P2W, bad tutorial. no need to say anything about this. 11th,12th,13th, review: complains about P2W 14th review: no real reason given for bad review 15th review: complains about not being able to jump snipe 16th review: complains about cheaters/hackers 17th review: complains about high system requirements. already addressed by LO with the 32 to 64b engine upgrade, i think 18th review: complains about devs being rude (im going to guess its about G1), systems stuff, and P2W. 19th review:complains about P2W 20th,21th,22th review: no real reason given for bad review ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> yo OP, at this point im starting to wonder where are all these un-addressed complains and suggestions to change on game mechanics that you were talking about, but lets continue 23th review: complains about P2W, devs "not caring", no new content, no balance and bugs. i think i dont need to say anything about the devs "not caring"; if anything, LO havent showed us yet that they -dont care- at all. all the other stuff has been already said to be being work on, by the devs that "dont care". 24th review: no real reason given for the bad review 25th review: complains about P2W 26th review: complains about bugs 27th review: complains about P2W 28th review: complains about... being less than gta? 29th review: complains about the community 30th review:no real reason given for bad review 31th review: complains about bugs and errors 32th review: no real reason given for bad reveiw 33th review: complains about performance and being dated 34th review: complains about player movement and dated graphics. as a note, no suggestions about how to improve the player's movement was given. 35th review: complains about the threat system, cardet, bugs, "RNG based mechanics" (lol?), the old G1, DDoS, balance. 1, 3,7: being addressed, 6:i hope it can be addressed at all, 2:you can argue that its a bad game mechanic, or not, its not hard to scape from a cardet if you're ready for it (should be), 5: is not any more, 4: not even i know what he was talking about. 36th reivew: complains about low player count, dethreating, the forum community. well, its not like LO enjoys having a low populated game, all they are doing are a big address to the low population. dethreating, LO already said they will address it with fasing, the forum community, is NOT a game mechanic and its not for dicuss on this thread. 37th review: complains about matchmaking and dethreating 38th review: complains about the community, low player count, matchmaking, learning curve, contacts being in empty districts. the contacts being in an empty district and learning curve can be discussed, but no suggestion was given. 39th review: complains about matchmaking, lag, bugs, car handling once again, no suggestion about better car handling given. cars doesnt feel good in apb because of server sided driving, wich was found to be the best option for a game like this, probably. 40 review: complains about P2W. oh man, look at ALL THAT STUFF that people is complaining about and LO is not addressing... oh wait, there was like... only 2 or 3 reviews complaining about legit stuff thats not being addressed. like, really, op, how many more steam reviews are you going to make me read?

i got a sitting duck and 1.5M ... ... ... time to start the APB's october revolution! ... in like 8 months or so I DEMAND LO TO TAKE THE ITEMS OF THOSE WHO HAS MORE THAN THEY NEED AND TO GIVE ME A URSUS! ... ... ... /s, just in case someone actually takes this seriously, also, r/unexpectedpolitics

i dont know what metabans is, but from what i could gather in a 3 minutes search, its eather: A) a database of players shared by some server's admins, wich would not work because this is not community-server game. or B) a public witchhunt list of people accused of cheating, wich one - would have ALL players in the database because thats how APB community rolls, and two - ITS THE EXACT THING LO IS TRYING TO STOP, THUS, WHY THEY STOPPED BROADCASTING THE BANS. and thats how the "cheater check squad" was born, a group of players that would check everyday the list, hoping to see the player they reported 2 weeks ago dissapear from it (thus, "it got banned"). and the day a -good- player gets banned? the toxic behaviour LO is trying to stop by stopping the ban broadcasts will be here once again. so, once again - that list would also go against what LO has been doing this far. ----------------------------------------- by the way you presented your idea: it looks like you want "FFBANS broadcast, but not FFBANS broadcast, because that got canned by LO, but a lowkey FFBANS broadcast, so i can search everyday for that player i reported 3 weeks ago and see if he got banned because of Ju5t1C33333333!!!!!!!!", wich goes against what LO has been doing. if you want a webpage to show stats, thats kinda ok (just kinda - it also sparks all kind of toxic behaviour but i guess thats normal competitive gaming behaviour), once you give any kind of tip on who got banned, you can bet people is going to get as many info as they can out of that simple tip.

^ ...mods will be angry if i just comment an arrow, right? ... ... fixed

ideal situations are nice to look for solutions, arent they? "lets just remove this thing i dont like - it doesnt matter if the bad PR will make the playerbase drop even further, we... we can spare them, ok? apb has like... what? 600 players in average playing at all times?... look man, as long as there are 4 players, we can play, ok?" so, what you want is a low-key FF, "oh look, its -not a webpage to look for banned names- , no no, its a -stats webpage- that, indirectly -allows you to look for banned names-" aka: what LO is trying to avoid at all costs. do you really, REALLY, REALL-LI-TY-REALLY -MAGNAABSOLUTELY- N3333333333333333333333D! to get the names of the banned players? wont a simple "we banned X ammount of players" like in most games that shows that kind of stuff, be enough?

actually, i've been doing that for like 2 or 3 years already.

idk, having to play a mission while paying attention to the newbie... i could never make it work this far. can we get an spectator mode instead? i would actually love to log in just to watch newbies play and give advice.

i mean.... who doesnt? for many players reporting whoever killed them is almost muscle memory already. lets remember the guy that reported a player for running him over with a car, for example.