Rebelliousness

LO just bought a dying game... they bought it with lots of issues, lots of bad code, lots of problems and it's going to be some time before they get the game polished and shiny for advertising... but when they do, it's going to be popular... maybe not PUBG or GTA5 popular, but a lot more popular it is now with all the problems.... Just give the company time to unfold their battle plan to fix this game, and then yes, absolutely it's got GREAT potential to be profitable and fun for a few more years. APB is no longer a "dying" game... it's just in a kind of alpha state atm.

No but it warrants a look by LO staff.

Basically... give the guy w/e helps him calm down... and I mean that sincerely... he is known to TK the living patooty out of his own teams when he's not happy or hears an ear-blistering death theme... Always be a little extra nice to people some of them irl are not well.

If they simply had in-game GMs... and they could go and see what was happening by watching chat for example... and if they saw misbehaving weebos... they could push their "snitch to the higher powers" button... and Wait a minute, not that gif... this one... Roast those baddies..

I HOPE LO puts in, along with some of the adjustment benefits of the Advanced Launcher... some alternate (size, shape, color) an advanced crosshair selection.. if for nothing else, it adds to customization and would be fun to see what works and looks best.

It's resolved really, why are you upset? There was good intention, and there will be something good in the future, and mistakes were made that the CEO won't make again. Simple really. Win-win.

1. After this I'm going to try to find a way to ignore you on forums. 2. Do you have proof? Or just an opinion? 3. I played on Innova and the GMs were invisible, didn't socialize, and had one job only, spectating suspicious players, exploiters, or kicking for generally bad behavior. To my knowledge Innova didn't have the same set up as G1, with it's program of people who sat talking nonsense in Social and giving away free items. I could be mistaken but this is what we need from a Game company... them to do an impartial JOB of managing the game environment and not being friends of anyone.

Why reduce it's range when it's not even as effective as an ntec/atac? I mean it's not a CQC gun, besides players use HVR's in CQC with even more devastating effect. I say leave it as is, it's balanced and not very common... for a reason. Sometimes it isn't the gun that's OP but the players... and any gun they use will seem OP.

It's pretty obv there's a hardcore cheater circlejerk which has ALWAYS existed in this game... not saying a lot, but a dedicated few. We know most of them. Watching 3 min of the Lixil video was enough to make anyone /w even a small amount of knowledge want to puke. It was blatantly clear that a nice CM was being "handled" by the cheater circlejerk... and leading to the same kind of favoritism and corruption which they had going with G1 staff. We do not need "those people" being friended to, "handling," educating or giving advice to the company's staff... WHY? Because it is SELF-SERVING and decidedly AGAINST the best interests of the community. It has nothing to do with helping Lixil interact with the community, and everything about circling her with the "cheater" circlejerk.... to "skew" LO's perceptions... and give them really bad advice... which is why I proposed LO do the OPPOSITE of what these guys are intending. DON'T make "special in-game "friends" cos no one in APB is going to be an actual "friend" of any staff member... they are just going to selfishly use you for free stuff, for favors... and in the circlejerk... as a "get of of Ban/jail free card." So don't degrade yourself by allowing their compliments and fake friendliness manipulate you. Rather, play anon... and help the players who get wrecked hardcore by the golds who troll in bronze who actually DO need a friend. Better yet, LO should copy the SUCCESS of INNOVA RU. All their GMs in-game were busy SPECTATING the cheaters to kick their patooties OUT... and not "socializing." INNOVA RU was the BEST iteration of APB, cos very, very low cheater circlejerk... and none of the manipulative, game-playing, bs that created soooooo much hatred and toxicity and divided this community and led to false bans... and false reprieves of "friends."

Out of all these comments you always respond to mine. Get off my fkin nads boy. I simply happen to agree with MattScott's decision, as I see maturity in it. There's LONG been problems with STAFF having special relationships with CERTAIN members of the community, and MattScott wants to nip that in the bud. It doesn't mean we are a shitty community or that Lixil is a bad person. I didn't even copmment on that thread. A lot of people may disagree, but I for one see WISDOM in MattScott's comments. I'd rather have LO staff playing anon to learn the game, then being buttkissed and potentially corrupted by very shady cliques.

Yes, because the "questionable" people having pocket GM's and Gamersfirst staff special friends was devastating. And even though that wasn't the case here, and I do sympathize with Lixil's sincerity and good nature... the hint of it was enough to start a huge wave of backlash. MattScott is correct in his analysis. Special friends of staff members reminds a lot of people of favoritism and false bans... something we're barely recovering from. And it's not a "shit" community... It's just a community that's been "shit" on for a long, long time. Having staff stream isn't a "bad" idea... but the way it was starting out would have ended very, very badly. Special events are cool, because as he said, it's not staff and their circle of private friends playing the PVP game AGAINST the playerbase. Thank you Mattscott for your maturity. And thank you Lixil for trying, and also for learning some hard lessons WITH our community. You will be loved and respected so much more when we can trust you will be everybody's friend and champion than playing in missions in stacked groups "against" us. I for one was relieved to hear from her voice that she wasn't really Tiggs.

1. I made this thread in response to the now locked thread of replies to Lixil's playing in-game on a boosted account being taught by some "pro-players" who are formerly banned for cheating. I didn't want to discuss what a disappointment that all was, or the revelation that the discord she was in was also hosted by a formerly banned cheater who had made some text about how you could get your tickets looked at faster by talking to their good friend Lixil... or some such. I didn't want to comment directly, so as a long-time player I analyzed what went wrong with that scenario to the playerbase's jaded experiences with G1's former staff: "I decide who's cheating and who isn't.' -Revoemag And as a result of my reflections on the replies to that topic, and also watching what someone had uploaded of the video Lixil had streamed... and she sure seemed like a newb player to me... was what I posted. This COMMUNITY would have a LOT more respect for LO staff who PLAYED at their skill level, and certainly not on rank boosted accounts in the company of the "pro players." WHY? Because for one thing, if she had played anonymously... those same "nice friendly people" would have rocked her to the point of logging off... and THAT... not those guys in particular, but gold players in bronze are the main cancer of the game to new players... and was the primary thing I think people like Lixil, and YOU need to experience so you can be the CHAMPIONS of the oppressed players. Now you can spin this any way you like. I said my peace. We need a non-biased company who doesn't "get in bed" with the current meta circle-jerk or take their self-serving advice, it's been devastating our game from day 1. We need IMPARTIALITY And while I do appreciate your commentary about how you guys have anon accounts... as mentioned before, those who love this game want it to survive and HOPE that you will see the problems that have been endemic for YEARS and have the HEART to help resolve them, and not become another part of a long-standing problem. I have nothing against any of the LO staff. I did not comment on the now-locked Lixil thread. Instead I made this proposal. I hope you can at least hear the HEART of what I hope for this game.

Hard Threat locking IS Threat Segregation, and at one of it's iterations tried to lock all the golds onto a Gold server and nearly killed the game until it was changed. threat segregation simply fractures an already small playerbase. Players DO learn skills from seeing how better players do things. Why then, when the original game system accomodated all threat levels and ranks would that system be argued against, when what was implemented in it's place was so unjust, broken and destructive? For one thing, the original system is a terrible threat to the golds who need to play on bronze... because it would make them extinct, as a truly skill-based matching system would show what they are truly made of, rather than setting groups to op weaker, lower threat playerbase. Otherwise I can't imagine who would argue against it. At least in the original system, when you encountered a max rank Gold, you KNEW you were up against someone of prestigious skill.

Seeing as I was very new then and not a vet, I was one of the bronzies... so your point about hoiw I much enjoyed the system BEFORE Threat Segregation for it's noob-stomping is not only fallacious, it's inconceivable. The matchmaking system was a lot more fair for the lower threats/ranks then it is today... and the scoring system, based on a lot longer period of time was more forgiving, so that low silvers didn't drop down to bronze after a few bad matches. But most importantly, the earlier system can't even be compared to the system we have now, which for all intents and purposes simply became a brutal noob-stomping game... and the original game was nothing like this.

Well Threat Segregation was exactly what it means... segregating the Districts. It wasn't part of the original game. The threat and matchmaking systems have had a number of adjustments, but the most ruinous was the Threat Segregation patch, which completely introduced a whole new game. the previous game wasn't being abused... it was the new system which created a system of abuses, like falling into a hole which the game never could get out of. The more they tried to fix, the more they broke the system. This is why, at this point LO would be advised to evaluate the original game.

I'm talking about the Threat Segregation Patch of 2013, and prior to that there were no threat colored districts because... there was no threat segregation. I have zero clue what fantasy OBT APB you could possibly be talking about. For one thing, your forum account was created in 2014. From your knowledge base, that seems about right. the intent was to keep veterans from stomping noob players. the implementation was to paint a sign on newer players by segregating them into a district and thus creating the nuclear catastrophe of noob stomping such as never even envisioned before... and coupled with that a series of matchmaking and scoring changes which took something basically fair... and permanently ruining it so that APB forums have for years been screaming about it ever since. And prior to this brainchild Threat Segregation patch, almost no one on forums even complained about matchmaking. Really! So I say just go back to the original RTW game, and work with that, instead of the burnt out radioactive waste of a ruin the game became (this one, the APB version).

See, this is another example that you don't know what you are talking about. THERE WAS NO MONETARY PENALTY FOR ENTERING ANY DISTRICT because there was NO SEGREGATION. the monetary penalty was imposed to reduce "veteran players" from ENTERING lower threat districts. There WAS no "NOOB STOMPING" going on, because NOOBS were given numerical value in comparison with higher threat/rank players. For example: 1 gold would get 2 silver op. Sometimes 2 silver op + a bronze. When there simply weren't high ranl/threat silvers... one gold would get 6 bronzes and 2 trainees as op. So what happened was actually Gold threat 10's got stomped.

But that was the original game, and it worked. What we have now is brutal, noob-killing, and it does not work. I was there when Threat Segregation patch rolled out. And I was one of the earliest critics of how it destroyed our game. Go ahead and reread those old posts, and get a clue how the playerbase ACTUALLY felt about it. NO ONE wanted threat Segregation and EVERYONE asked for the patch to be rerolled. But the files were already wrecked. Since that time a number of attempted fixes have just broken things even more. G1 didn't control the game in closed beta testing. RTW did. Ofc matchmaking was always problematic. but under RTW it was not BROKEN the way that Threat Segregation broke it. You mean to say, you didn't play the game when it wasn't broken... but simply accept that it's always been broken. Shame, because in the absence of experience you now argue against something that worked very well and was loved by most APB players.

Let me point something out to you, Mr. "insanely obvious.. Prior to the threat Segregation change... NO ONE complained about the matchmaking system. No one. And dethreating simply wasn't a thing. Whatever happened, G1 corrupted the original RTW files and were unable to reroll that awful patch. A series of unoptimized rubberbanding, miles of pedestrians flooding the districts, so many side effects of "insanely coded" mess destroyed so many things in the game, that heretofore had never been a problem. All that we have today.... is the direct legacy of a change no one even asked for. That it was working before, and not working now is what is INSANELY OBVIOUS.

How can you possibly criticize a system you never played under? You continually make threads as if it were WORSE than Threat Segregation, which is the very worst thing which happened to this game. False criticism of something you know nothing about isn't a discussion. the threat system changed. People who know HOW it changed are trying to TELL you something, but you seem incapable of listening. New players HAD a chance under the old system, is the point. Consider that outsiders will never know how great this game was, because the system under G1 ruined it for all of us. But it has a chance at being restored. Why are you arguing against that chance?

You never played that game, per your own admission you only knew Threat Segregation, so your ability to criticize a system you never played under is moot. There WERE no dethreaters then. Dethreaters were a symptom of the BROKEN Threat Segregation.

It's not so much the cheater really, but how part of the staff is being introduced into a position of favoritism by the most elitest players... the group which shats the hardest on the new and weaker players, all day, everyday, and yes even sometimes resorting to "cheats" or "exploits" to be the best. If LO staff would be brave enough to undergo the baptism by fire that we all have endured... even if they played as true bronzies... how endearing they would be to us... how we would respect them so much more... and rather than learning the game from the "skewed" perspective, if they actually made anonymous accounts... they could be the eyes and ears for MattScott so proper changes could be implemented which are desperately needed to save this game, and it's new population. Something the staff will never learn, playing as playthings of handlers with ulterior and selfish agendas.

Because they are the new staff, and they should take the bad advice they're being given by the certain pro faction playerbase, and turn it upside down to do the right thing for the game.

And not be in any discord channel, not associate with any "known" or "pro" or even "gold" players... In fact, should join the game entirely ANONYMOUSLY. That way they can see first hand why "new" "nobody" players get hardcore wrecked by those same players they think are their friends... and have a more intimate understanding of why this game is so filled with hatred towards some of the truly abusive prks who kill off the game's playerbase. Play the game as a new person would play it... only then could LO staff have ANY CLUE what's going on, and what desperately needs to be fixed. And if you streamed it would be even funnier... cos you'd be receiving sooooo many toxic, rude, and insulting msgs just for being... "not a good player." It would be a real eye opener into the actual population that needs special "protection" and is hoping to get it from people with the connections, such as actual LO staff... You should be the champions of the weakest players... and that means playing like one and getting that full experience. The worst people, and I mean that sincerely have long had a habit of "kissing up" to the game's staff in hopes of getting a "get out of jail free" card. We need LO staff who are brave enough to play as the unwanted, detested, tk's and kicked nobodies to save them so we have new players in game. We need you. The game desperately needs you. But we need you to know what the problems really are so you can help and not become, as the previous staff, subverted into being an enabler and denier of the problems.

I've been saying since the day of the patch, and it's been years now. if you want to save APB: REROLL THREAT SEGREGATION!