Pista 46 Posted January 31 It's time to remove the unfair advantage editing the game files gives players by hard code how low you can set graphics. Everyone should be restricted to what the in-game graphics settings allow you to do. Editing the files to use high fps config allows you to see through fences easier, it removes bushes other stuff making it easier to see enemy players.Β Β Β Β Β Β Β 6 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted January 31 @MattScottΒ Read this and rethink the decision of custom configs 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nagletz 226 Posted January 31 Double edged sword on this one. Some ppl still has trash PCs (like me, but i like the graphics and have 60 fps with some stutters on High so anyways) and configs is the only solution. Yet we have "pro"s making the game look like Roblox with additional "stuff" like extra wide-screen etc. So it's not really that simple. Cheaters can have Ultra settings and still be cheaters, not much difference from aforementioned low-cfg players. Works the other way, too. But IMO wide-screen min recoil glitch should be addressed anyways, one way or another. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 173 Posted January 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nagletz said: Double edged sword on this one. Some ppl still has trash PCs (like me, but i like the graphics and have 60 fps with some stutters on High so anyways) and configs is the only solution. Yet we have "pro"s making the game look like Roblox with additional "stuff" like extra wide-screen etc. So it's not really that simple. Cheaters can have Ultra settings and still be cheaters, not much difference from aforementioned low-cfg players. Works the other way, too. But IMO wide-screen min recoil glitch should be addressed anyways, one way or another. I would hate to hear that there are some players using computers that are as old as this game, what is it 15 years ? That would be enough to make a grown man/woman/them cry. Β I know that a lot of players change the game files to achieve graphics setting that makes the game look extremely wonky. I have seen some vids where the graphics configs results in a horrible looking elongated display. Β This player may have a 15 year old computer. Β https://youtu.be/DK59h4tKCw8?si=X0scgMGeRJW3pcCe Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Edited January 31 by Westford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6182 Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Westford said: have seen some vids where the graphics configs results in a horrible looking elongated display. Β This player may have a 15 year old computer. Β https://youtu.be/DK59h4tKCw8?si=X0scgMGeRJW3pcCe you canβt actually stop stretched res players, because you canβt stop players from changing their monitors resolution Β its the custom crosshair βdebateβ all over again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talla 90 Posted January 31 (edited) Graphic customizationΒ is an accessibility issue. Not everyone can have the best up-to-date hardware for their PC. Β I think the current way of doing things is correct : Only use whitelisted mods orΒ change settings in the config files which are allowed. https://www.gamersfirst.com/download/ Anything else could putΒ you at risk of gettingΒ banned. Β Β Edited January 31 by Talla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 173 Posted January 31 48 minutes ago, vsb said: you canβt actually stop stretched res players, because you canβt stop players from changing their monitors resolution Β its the custom crosshair βdebateβ all over again Oh, I really don't care if players use a widescreen display resolution, I think it looks like crap, but no reason for them not to play like this. Β Myself personally, I set the in games resolution to the whatever the highest available that my GPU and monitor can support. That's just because I like the aesthetics. Β But now you have me curious. Why play in a resolution the elongates the display like that ? Does it improve the FPS, or .. ? Β I had to take a look at the video again, and I did notice the red "center" dot instead of the default. I can see how this could be really helpful. I don't think I can change that in the graphics setting, but I will double check. Β I don't know, it might be because I am either lazy, or just don't care as much to go above and beyond what the in game graphics settings allow for config changes. Β I never bothered with the APB Launcher that was approved by LO, like I said, I just can't be bothered. Β I realize that this is important to some players, particularly if they have a very old computer. Β My CPU was released in 2017 and my GPU in 2019, so some might argue that I have an old computer, but I get decent performance with APB even on high graphics settings. Β Maybe I am missing out, and my gameplay would be a vast improvement if I made these types of changes. Β Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EC2Jonathan 8 Posted January 31 I completely agreeβthese configurations allow players to see through fences and bushes, which is entirely unfair. This issue should be addressed, along with the .45, everyone uses it because it's clearly the best option. Why not expand the secondary weapon pool to encourage more variety like in our dipping sauces? Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pista 46 Posted January 31 8 hours ago, Nagletz said: Double edged sword on this one. Some ppl still has trash PCs (like me, but i like the graphics and have 60 fps with some stutters on High so anyways) and configs is the only solution. Yet we have "pro"s making the game look like Roblox with additional "stuff" like extra wide-screen etc. So it's not really that simple. Cheaters can have Ultra settings and still be cheaters, not much difference from aforementioned low-cfg players. Works the other way, too. But IMO wide-screen min recoil glitch should be addressed anyways, one way or another. Β Majority of users that edit the config, do it for the advantage it gives them, not because they have super old computer.Β The developer needs to restrict how low you can turn the graphics down using only in-game settings. Being able to see through fences and remove bushes shouldn't be allowed. Β You can see it on twitch, people with over $1,500 computers running high fps config. They do it to spot enemies easier. Β 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 185 Posted February 1 The storytellers' arguments about old PCs are complete nonsense. The frame rate in this game is very important. The gameplay is very dynamic. But the game is not able to provide it. This is the root of the problem. I think that any modification of the game files should be prohibited. But before that, you need to roll out a patch that somehow miraculously solves a bunch of performance problems, removes stuttering, bugs related to high FPS, and optimizes particle effects. If this is not possible in the current state of the developer studio, then you can go the other way. Just double the kill time. This will give a lot of extra time for the player to react. Now this time is being consumed by the shortcomings of the game and the server. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nagletz 226 Posted February 2 On 1/31/2025 at 11:27 PM, Westford said: I would hate to hear that there are some players using computers that are as old as this game, what is it 15 years ? That would be enough to make a grown man/woman/them cry. Β I know that a lot of players change the game files to achieve graphics setting that makes the game look extremely wonky. I have seen some vids where the graphics configs results in a horrible looking elongated display. Β This player may have a 15 year old computer. Β https://youtu.be/DK59h4tKCw8?si=X0scgMGeRJW3pcCe Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β My system is newer but i have monitor from 2008 lmao. It's a relic at this point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5384 Posted February 2 Most of the options you guys are complaining about will likely be added to the game itself so we wonβt need configs.Β 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nagletz 226 Posted February 2 38 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Most of the options you guys are complaining about will likely be added to the game itself so we wonβt need configs.Β Oh boy, can't wait for that no recoil option. I'm tired of controlling my guns for 10 years at this point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 185 Posted February 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Most of the options you guys are complaining about will likely be added to the game itself so we wonβt need configs.Β Adding advanced graphics configurations to a game without eliminating the cause is an extremely destructive step. The game will become even more miserable.Β It is necessary to eliminate the reason why players resort to graphics configs. Lags, teleports, a long server response, and other charms have nothing to do with graphics settings. Graphics configs are the only tool (stick-crutch) for correcting the situation in the hands of ordinary players. If developers have nothing to offer but a crutch, then these are not developers, but simple amateurs. Edited February 2 by Yapopal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexerin 1149 Posted February 4 On 1/31/2025 at 6:46 AM, Nagletz said: Some ppl still has trash PCs Then they either upgrade, or stop playing. Overall game health is more important than the minority of people who refuse to upgrade their PCs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gro 108 Posted February 5 12 hours ago, Hexerin said: Then they either upgrade, or stop playing. Overall game health is more important than the minority of people who refuse to upgrade their PCs. Give them one more reason to quit, shall we. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 720 Posted February 6 On 2/4/2025 at 5:21 PM, Hexerin said: Then they either upgrade, or stop playing. Overall game health is more important than the minority of people who refuse to upgrade their PCs. I wouldn't want the game to look potato in players' media content. Besides, the majority playing with these "configs" have the latest hardware, they just use it for the slight visual advantage. If it was for performance, they would disable particles but leave the rest alone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5384 Posted February 7 On 2/6/2025 at 1:59 AM, BlatMan said: Besides, the majority playing with these "configs" have the latest hardware, they just use it for the slight visual advantage Source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted February 7 2 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Source? https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/apb-reloaded Β When game gets online you can check by yourself. Β /You're welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5384 Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, Ardita said: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/apb-reloaded Β When game gets online you can check by yourself. Β /You're welcome How many people even stream apb anymore? 4? 5? Honestly IβveΒ not checked for an apb stream in forever unless you count Mattβs AMA.Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted February 7 23 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: How many people even stream apb anymore? 4? 5? Honestly IβveΒ not checked for an apb stream in forever unless you count Mattβs AMA.Β More than Fallen Earth players Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM450 2 Posted February 7 21 minutes ago, Ardita said: More than Fallen Earth players Fallen Earth? What is that?Β Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romique 20 Posted February 7 57 minutes ago, JohnM450 said: Fallen Earth? What is that?Β i think - cami, kemps, darleen, exo, zype, ardi, zombi, zicky... just what quickly came to myΒ mind and so on - its just the biggest ones that have 100 veiwers, and there is alot of russian atc smaller streamers with 20 viwers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5384 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Ardita said: More than Fallen Earth players True, trueΒ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talla 90 Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Ardita said: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/apb-reloaded Β When game gets online you can check by yourself. Β /You're welcome I'd rather check this : https://will.io/apb/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites