JOSELA 31 Posted January 6 (edited) This game is unplayable, it's a jungle full of cheaters, they don't even bother to hide them, uninstalled again I don't know how I've been able to last so long, well it's because of the affection I have for it unlike its owners. Edited January 6 by JOSELA 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6182 Posted January 7 do you feel better now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 242 Posted January 7 full blatant cheaters keep cheating like nothing... SARD probably not even active. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JOSELA 31 Posted January 7 On 1/7/2025 at 4:43 AM, vsb said: do you feel better now? a lot! I uninstalled it and my hair started to grow Merged. On 1/7/2025 at 12:55 AM, JOSELA said: This game is unplayable, it's a jungle full of cheaters, they don't even bother to hide them, uninstalled again I don't know how I've been able to last so long, well it's because of the affection I have for it unlike its owners. And let's not say that you are a new player. No weapons, no weapon upgrades, no shield, matchmaking making your life impossible, fighting against people who have played 2000 hours, not knowing how to use weapons... that's if you're lucky, because if at least there weren't cheaters... You could say that you lose against veteran people but not even that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 449 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, JOSELA said: uninstalled Don't let them Win. Shoot Them, catch them alone. LO has allot of explaining to do, letting them hack, lying about sard, letting them take over the forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JOSELA 31 Posted January 7 On 1/7/2025 at 11:17 AM, Uhtdred said: full blatant cheaters keep cheating like nothing... SARD probably not even active. It's crazy, it doesn't make any sense, that the game itself implements aimbot and wallhack so at least we can all play on equal terms... Merged. On 1/7/2025 at 1:56 PM, MACKxBOLAN said: Don't let them Win. Shoot Them, catch them alone. LO has allot of explaining to do, letting them hack, lying about sard, letting them take over the forum. Look, I started recording the cheaters, I've had videos that if a GM saw them they would be banned the moment they saw it... I'm tired of playing against cheaters in CSGO and I see them for miles. It's a lost battle when the administrators themselves stop playing the game. THEY DON'T EVEN UPDATE THE MARKETPLACE, which is where they make money!!!!!!, plus it's not my job, and I don't have a place to spend them either. Due to the type of damage that the game has, you can count it a little and if you play with friends to give them a 2v1, but even so it is unplayable, that's what it means to not miss a bullet and to know where you are at all times... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilyRain 688 Posted January 7 Are you saying that Cheaters still didn't rack up enough "Cheat Points" to get matched with each other? Heh. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nagletz 226 Posted January 7 32 minutes ago, LilyRain said: Are you saying that Cheaters still didn't rack up enough "Cheat Points" to get matched with each other? Heh. Or he's just a closet cheater complaining abt actually system that actually backfired on him? Nah, sounds bs... im joking btw i've seen him in game i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadliest 388 Posted January 8 12 hours ago, JOSELA said: Look, I started recording the cheaters, I've had videos that if a GM saw them they would be banned the moment they saw it... I'm tired of playing against cheaters in CSGO and I see them for miles. It's a lost battle when the administrators themselves stop playing the game. THEY DON'T EVEN UPDATE THE MARKETPLACE, which is where they make money!!!!!!, plus it's not my job, and I don't have a place to spend them either. Due to the type of damage that the game has, you can count it a little and if you play with friends to give them a 2v1, but even so it is unplayable, that's what it means to not miss a bullet and to know where you are at all times... If he ain’t spinning, he ain’t cheating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 720 Posted January 8 8 hours ago, LilyRain said: Are you saying that Cheaters still didn't rack up enough "Cheat Points" to get matched with each other? Heh. I bet those cheat points are just the threat system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 173 Posted January 8 It would be great if we had some SARD stats.. I think SARD is on ........ Oh well... 2025 is a New Year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 185 Posted January 10 I think that such an opinion about the game is formed due to the large number of negative aspects present in the game. Cheaters play a secondary role here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 173 Posted January 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yapopal said: I think that such an opinion about the game is formed due to the large number of negative aspects present in the game. Cheaters play a secondary role here. If I understand your statement, your position is that "Cheaters", players using 3rd party tools to gain an unfair advantage in game, is a secondary issue to other issues in this game. ie, Matchmaking, Weapon balance .. etc Or maybe I misunderstood your statement. I think that the number one priority would be that everyone should be able to play on a "level" playing field. An untarnished baseline needs to be established before any changes can be made that will prove to be effective. If the scales are tipped, in favor of players using 3rd party tools, then there is no competitive gameplay. and LO would be operating on a skewed baseline. Altering/Tweaking the Matchmaking system will not mitigate or accommodate for those players Cheating. I doubt that any amount of changes to the Matchmaking system to insure fair gameplay in an attempt at creating evenly matched opponents is possible if there are cheaters on either team. Again, the baseline is skewed, and not yet established. Weapon balance changes might be difficult, as data is harvested/anaylized as to the effectiveness of any weapon, when using macros, triggerbots or aimbots. I would think that that data gathered from weapon use from both legit players and Cheaters might not be an accurate representation of any weapons capabilities or performance. Just my thoughts. Edited January 10 by Westford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 185 Posted January 11 20 hours ago, Westford said: I totally agree with you. To clarify my comment above, I will reply. The game has a lot of questionable decisions and flaws that form a distorted opinion among the players. I will list some of them.: Poor server or client performance and the associated delay affect the exchange of information between players. An excellent example of this problem is the topic dedicated to correcting the characteristics of the AP 45. The player takes critical damage without knowing it. Questionable game design decisions. Developers solve the problem of one game system by changing another system. This works on the principle of a plaster covering the current pipe with a new layer of plaster. As an example, I can suggest the deviating trajectory of grenades near cars. Or ghost cars of third-party players. In the eyes of new players, such decisions seem absurd. I agree with them. These are low-grade crutches. I agree with you on the issue of loyalty to the players changed by the game client. In my opinion, this is a clear sign of indifference. The developers demonstrate this all the time. They are engaged in the project as a hobby, not pursuing any commercial interests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 449 Posted January 11 On 1/7/2025 at 7:38 PM, BlatMan said: bet those cheat points are just the threat system. Yep, only its the legits and actual new players that get all the cheat points or are Started off with full cheat points. Now I say that because the legit has to always vs known cheaters, and or Hi scoring golds. Or it is such that the cheats do have their points, but there are so few legits that the MM forces them into missions as a tag a long, or as Back up. Which is no different than the MM of the past 5 years. Personally I see zero evidence of sard being on server side in NA. Matt thinks a player has no clue if someone hax or not. Seems to me the object is to push out the few legits, then noone cries about cheats, end of problem. So the simple way is to not k up, this will force cheat v cheats. 80% of NA are golds, so if we just don't k up n do open world which is what the game is, open world. Then the sweats have to fight each other, kinda like Judo, You use their force against them. Additionally I believe the threat system is cracked, they are doing something to multiply their score and kills. So that they get astronomical scores which is whats needed to beat the pools average to move upward in threat. And long time players are Threat Locked or Stagnated so they'll never reach gold. I come in bout 3pm yesterday n only saw a couple of silvers and maybe one bronze in a full server. Matt has been against segregation from the start, and desegregation only helped golds and hackers. Big dif between competitive gaming and competitive name shaming. They talk down on silvers as if silvers and bronze are a lower form of life, And it's allowed. So we just dabble in open world n until we have first person view, using the actual gun site to aim, an active anti cheat, and a threat reset, no reason for a legit to play. They will just dethreat any none-gold. The game lacking open world or actual cops v robbers and focusing on Medal of honor type missions, not being a fps shooter, lack of sound controls, a still screaming joker box. I mean what do they have outside of personal designs that makes ya want to play. They got nothing, none of the guns work on people the way they do irl. Irl I'm not gonna need to shoot you more than once with a .45. Irl nobody is hopping 10 ft in the air and 10ft in distance and carrying a long gun, with their head and neck jutting forward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted January 11 On 1/7/2025 at 2:06 PM, JOSELA said: Look, I started recording the cheaters, I've had videos that if a GM saw them they would be banned the moment they saw it... I'm tired of playing against cheaters in CSGO and I see them for miles. It's a lost battle when the administrators themselves stop playing the game. THEY DON'T EVEN UPDATE THE MARKETPLACE, which is where they make money!!!!!!, plus it's not my job, and I don't have a place to spend them either. Due to the type of damage that the game has, you can count it a little and if you play with friends to give them a 2v1, but even so it is unplayable, that's what it means to not miss a bullet and to know where you are at all times... You're wrong. The farm still getting updated often and there's still "plenty of cows to milk" ^_^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 242 Posted January 18 any GM explain why SARD isn't active? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pista 46 Posted January 31 We had way less cheaters when this game was running FairFight anti-cheat. SARD doesn't seem to be much at all. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted January 31 On 1/18/2025 at 11:15 PM, Uhtdred said: any GM explain why SARD isn't active? You will only receive empty words from the crew of SPCT or others who's not in charge of this it seems, only that they got this as their "Priority #1" - for L.O. it seems that the cheating issue is a new phenomenon and they work their *a r s e* off now to fix it, however, seems someone been sleeping for years if this is just a problem now and not for decades.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitne 725 Posted February 2 (edited) On 1/31/2025 at 4:55 AM, Pista said: We had way less cheaters when this game was running FairFight anti-cheat. SARD doesn't seem to be much at all. Well I can tell you at least I was one false positive and the way I got banned I'm doubtful of many bans which happened thanks to it. (FFBans.org) Edited February 2 by Mitne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segwit 1 Posted February 5 Classic mid-bronze/silver goes mad instead of trying to get better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 449 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Segwit said: mad instead of trying to get better First, you and gold types take for granted your own skill level, tricks and the in's and outs of various weapons, locations or spots of mission. You assume that the bronze didn't make an effort to get better if he objects to either higher threats, stacked teams and or cheating. You assume that the bronze has the ability to get better, including what pc he runs, when the bronze may be completely ignorant of room for improvement in the many categories that exist in this game, and of course how things are done better, to practice getting better at how that is done. With all of the chat, forum, ect related to hacking in this game, it's going to be considered by the bronze. Then You add in all the chiding and trash talk in chat towards said bronze, and you wonder why he then gets frustrated and angry at those that whooped him and or MM or Sard. You also seem to think that being mad cuz bad is someone who refuses to try to get better, when in-fact he may know his faults or some of them and be actively trying to improve his skills, and still be mad, and still think hax and stacked teams, MM, ect are more the root of the problem of his success than his overall skill level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segwit 1 Posted February 6 8 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said: First, you and gold types take for granted your own skill level, tricks and the in's and outs of various weapons, locations or spots of mission. You assume that the bronze didn't make an effort to get better if he objects to either higher threats, stacked teams and or cheating. You assume that the bronze has the ability to get better, including what pc he runs, when the bronze may be completely ignorant of room for improvement in the many categories that exist in this game, and of course how things are done better, to practice getting better at how that is done. With all of the chat, forum, ect related to hacking in this game, it's going to be considered by the bronze. Then You add in all the chiding and trash talk in chat towards said bronze, and you wonder why he then gets frustrated and angry at those that whooped him and or MM or Sard. You also seem to think that being mad cuz bad is someone who refuses to try to get better, when in-fact he may know his faults or some of them and be actively trying to improve his skills, and still be mad, and still think hax and stacked teams, MM, ect are more the root of the problem of his success than his overall skill level. Yes, I assume and usually Im not talking to such players in the game nor trash talking, because usually I don’t care. My skill growth while I was playing for fun, because if you wanna have fun in broken game — you must stand against APB specifics, like tryhards, e-sports, cheaters, bad spots and etc. But why I’m talking here? Because this player is toxic asf while playing APB, I can’t repeat the all the sht, which this guy wrote to my DM, because he was sure that I’m hacking (literally I don’t need a mouse to beat him). And such situations happend many times — dude trashtalking, calling everybody cheaters and won’t get better, won’t simply understand that not everyone is hacking. But, he is too childish and brainrotted. That’s why I’m writing here, I wasn’t even touching this guy in-game letting him to have fun — now he shares his madness here. He is taking what deserves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 96 Posted February 7 23 hours ago, Segwit said: That’s why I’m writing here, I wasn’t even touching this guy in-game letting him to have fun — now he shares his madness here. He is taking what deserves You speak in general or is it Mack you're referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segwit 1 Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Ardita said: You speak in general or is it Mack you're referring to? It’s about JOSELA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites