Make APB fun to play.

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

We have to change a lot of things regardless of headshots... If you don't see the state of the game is in right now that's your problem. I've posted above what's wrong with this game go read.

9 hours ago, Slickmund said:

I think we need to start a foundation to raise money to buy this fella a set of reading glasses. I am done with this, and saddened by the fact it is still ongoing.

I think you need to get a set of reading glasses it looks like you never read what i posted above if that's the case there is no point for you to comment right now, because your comment holds no value you just say something to fit in with the rest...

Fortune Runner · July 26, 2018

Seriously man just sit down off the soap box what you have suggested would break APB even further....

A very large amount of the community have gone out of their way to explain why and you are basically just picking fights with people now

I do not recall anyone but YOU saying head shots should be added and how all of APB would have to be programmed from scratch from it changing everything

And as for your very first post...... 26 dislikes currently....
No one wants a cheap one shot one kill game we want real fun
black light retribution is like that and that's if it still exists.... boring as it gets

We have been here playing for YEARS for a reason... but this "Joined Feb 2018" under your name doesn't say you know APB much at all so can you just stop now please?

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

8 hours ago, BXNNXD said:

players arent going to be crossing streets on foot and players arent going to be pushing any corner unless its been grenaded/flaregunned - hell even in half of your responses to me you cited multiple players using covering fire and leapfrogging just to deal with a single target, so you apparently cant even keep your own answers straight

You can't keep your answers straight at first you say players will camp, then you say players will have no place to cover themselves. You keep throwing arguments with no real weight behind them. You said if APB had headshots it would become a subpar knockoff of CSGO. CSGO and APB will never be the same ever, regardless of headshots. At best you could try to compare APB to Fortnite just because it has headshots but even then it would make no sense APB will always be APB. Only thing people compare APB to which it always has been compared to is GTA it's like a cops n robbers GTA parody type game with worse driving and even worse combat overall game flopped. That's how majority of the game industry look at APB they think APB is a joke... Hell the players themselves make memes out of APB. Again didn't you get banned for hacking? if so that just shows that the second you decided to hack you gave up on the game, becasue you were getting your a** kicked 24/7 by a bad matchmaking again if you hacked you're were part of the problem of destroying the game by hacking you just show to the new players of how bad situation in this game really is. The new players see that and they don't bother to even play the game anymore so they quit, and never comeback. The whole game needs to be reworked regardless of headshots look at this

These new players are babies. They barely can understand the game and what to do. There is no real preperation for them instead they get matched up against a silver who is more experienced, that silver is in a bronze district because he probably got tired of dealing with golds that kick his a** 24/7 in the silver district. So golds kick silvers out of the the silver district then silvers come to bronze district and they kick these babies out of games. The whole system is broken. Whole system needs to be reworked regardless of headshots. The driving the hitboxes, the hitreg, the servers, the matchmaking the weapons everything. Edited July 26, 2018 by 23k

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

27 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

Seriously man just sit down off the soap box what you have suggested would break APB even further....

A very large amount of the community have gone out of their way to explain why and you are basically just picking fights with people now

I do not recall anyone but YOU saying head shots should be added and how all of APB would have to be programmed from scratch from it changing everything

And as for your very first post...... 26 dislikes currently....
No one wants a cheap one shot one kill game we want real fun
black light retribution is like that and that's if it still exists.... boring as it gets

We have been here playing for YEARS for a reason... but this "Joined Feb 2018" under your name doesn't say you know APB much at all so can you just stop now please?

Everything else needs to be fixed so the headshots could be implemented. A very large amount of the community? that's like what? 26 players? You want real fun? do you even play? Black light retribution you compare that to APB? you can't be serious... If you compare APB to Black light there is nothing else left to say to you... You're trying to teach me about the game? I've been playing the game since 2011 the game always had problems. Look at this, look at this man, 2011 e3 APB skip to 1:51 the developer doesn't even know what district he is on? what kind of bs is that?

Edited July 26, 2018 by 23k

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

13 minutes ago, 23k said:

Everything else needs to be fixed so the headshots could be implemented. A very large amount of the community? that's like what? 26 players? You want real fun? do you even play? Black light retribution you compare that to APB? you can't be serious... If you compare APB to Black light there is nothing else left to say to you... You're trying to teach me about the game? I've been playing the game since 2011 the game always had problems. Look at this, look at this man, 2011 e3 APB skip to 1:51 the developer doesn't even know what district he is on? what kind of bs is that?

And then we got TIGGS no offense to you TIGGS got nothing personal against you. But i strongly believe that you had more experience taking her of your horses than actually taking care of the game for the past several years. And right now it shows because LO needs to take care of the mess that APB has become from all these years.

Look at this

This video dates back to 2012 yet it's still applies to this day... In fact this player would be even more pissed right now than he was back in 2012. It shows that APB has never changed and always stayed in the same broken state.

Edited July 26, 2018 by 23k

Fortune Runner · July 26, 2018

Like we all said....

No it would only waste money developing a whole new game rather than fixing APB

You said you are from 2011 but barely joined the forums? so is it you didn't care all this time to join the forums and contribute? Then again this thread doesn't really contribute since its a real bad idea to do.

And then there's twisting my words about how many people do NOT like your first post on this thread....
I never suggested it was 26 people for the whole community.....
go talk in district chat I bet they'll just love to hear from you.... until they say no as well

And no not everything needs to be fixed most things are not broken at all.... wow cant believe you said that

And yes saying how you said in your first post to make one shot kills on everything and comparing it to black light retribution is accurate because that's what a one shot kill game is like ...duh

You do not come off as educated in programming or business or even common sense of APB game play so either you hardly played , or just don't get APB at all , or flat out lied about how long you have played
because any of us players who have been here since the beginning of APB have all said no to your headshot rants in this thread this whole time.... might want to take the hint.

Oh an done last thing genius.... why would I be on the forums here if i don't play?
Can you stop picking a fight with the whole community just because we all in this thread said no its a bad idea?

NotZombieBiscuit · July 26, 2018

Silvers have too much freedom on this forum to make silly threads like this.

Queen of Love · July 26, 2018

2 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

Silvers have too much freedom on this forum to make silly threads like this.

i agree, they are an insult for goldies majesty.
district ultrasegregation and disable dethreating in any way.
so goldies can play all togheter without boring silvers around .

🤽‍♂️

go Z

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

1 minute ago, Fortune Runner said:

Like we all said....

No it would only waste money developing a whole new game rather than fixing APB

You said you are from 2011 but barely joined the forums? so is it you didn't care all this time to join the forums and contribute? Then again this thread doesn't really contribute since its a real bad idea to do.

And then there's twisting my words about how many people do NOT like your first post on this thread....
I never suggested it was 26 people for the whole community.....
go talk in district chat I bet they'll just love to hear from you.... until they say no as well

And no not everything needs to be fixed most things are not broken at all.... wow cant believe you said that

And yes saying how you said in your first post to make one shot kills on everything and comparing it to black light retribution is accurate because that's what a one shot kill game is like ...duh

You do not come off as educated in programming or business or even common sense of APB game play so either you hardly played , or just don't get APB at all , or flat out lied about how long you have played
because any of us players who have been here since the beginning of APB have all said no to your headshot rants in this thread this whole time.... might want to take the hint.

Oh an done last thing genius.... why would I be on the forums here if i don't play?
Can you stop picking a fight with the whole community just because we all in this thread said no its a bad idea?

skip to 1:58 the funny thing is that's how majority of the gaming community views this game. So yeah right, Fortune Runner.

2 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

Silvers have too much freedom on this forum to make silly threads like this.

Oh hey ZombieBiscuit i already seen your "gold" skills in the videos you posted, you're right, you're the best, now since you got nothing really meaningful to say how about you go and make more videos on how perfect apb is while showcasing your "gold" skills. Oh and don't forget add more of those silly corny anime thumbnails oh f***, i forgot i didn't mean to insult you, they're more than just drawings to you. You call those silly drawings your "waifus" right? if so then go on, Keep making your videos about how perfect apb is while showcasing your "waifus" along with those "gold" skills of yours.

NotZombieBiscuit · July 26, 2018

2 hours ago, 23k said:

Oh hey ZombieBiscuit i already seen your "gold" skills in the videos you posted, you're right, you're the best, now since you got nothing really meaningful to say how about you go and make more videos on how perfect apb is while showcasing your "gold" skills. Oh and don't forget add more of those silly corny anime thumbnails oh f***, i forgot i didn't mean to insult you, they're more than just drawings to you. You call those silly drawings your "waifus" right? if so then go on, Keep making your videos about how perfect apb is while showcasing your "waifus" along with those "gold" skills of yours.

Who hurt you?

Also it is Doujin, not Anime. At least get it right. Edited July 26, 2018 by NotZombieBiscuit

Fyre · July 26, 2018

5 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

Silvers have too much freedom on this forum to make silly threads like this.

Single solitary tear

CookiePuss · July 26, 2018

5 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

Silvers have too much freedom on this forum to make silly threads like this.

#AddThreatToForums

magik · July 26, 2018

9 hours ago, 23k said:

We have to change a lot of things regardless of headshots... If you don't see the state of the game is in right now that's your problem. I've posted above what's wrong with this game go read.
I think you need to get a set of reading glasses it looks like you never read what i posted above if that's the case there is no point for you to comment right now, because your comment holds no value you just say something to fit in with the rest...

Pretty much everyone has read what you've posted.
Everything you've posted is the same jumbled up crap being slew about, bringing elements that need to be fixed, or modified, and using those as justification to fix headshots (spawn system, really?)

Spawns have had their system changed, and they need to be modified to accommodate for a better set of spawns. What at all does this have to do with headshots?

All this pointless banter is getting nowhere. @BXNNXD has already, and thoroughly, gone through your posts, and countered each and every point you presented.
What more would get this going?

Absolutely nothing. A quote from MattScott:

Quote

Q: What sort of brought your interest towards this game? You have a sort of outside perspective?
A: Even though I have limited experience with playing the game, it is unique. While it is hard and not the average shooter, not being a clone of Counter Strike for example, I thought honestly that it didn’t get the attention it deserve, and we didn’t want to see that happen. My biggest fear would be that we’d announce these changes and that no-one would really listen, but clearly that hasn’t been the case.

Q: Moving on to the elephant in the room, what is Little Orbit’s rough roadmap of what you’re working on first?
A: So this was #2. I tend to group issues a bit, and there is a lot going on at the studio, we got people working on various stuff. I’ve found a new project called “Infrastructure” which will improve the entire spectrum of how GamersFirst work, a rebuild of the foundations. It’ll involve improve the communication that goes both ways. It began with getting the new support system online, implementing the new Anti-Cheat, and ending with clearing the cobwebs with our first patch. “Unification” is our next project, which will involve completing UE 3.5, which will unify the code bases that will allow content release to begin again. Unless we unify the code bases across all platforms, it’ll be impossible to I think beyond, we have UE4. We also want to look at the long standing mechanical issues that have been in the game. Get back into the content design and workflow for the game. Beyond that would be major content, involving a new map and a new mode. It is quite far along the content that has been in development, just been sitting there waiting to be released.

Q: Will the original login screen, with previous music make a return?
A: I actually had the track on loop from Youtube. I am a big fan of that screen. I would have to look at the music rights and see what we have currently. While we can’t truly guarantee getting the old music back, I’d love to see that screen with that music come back. I also think we don’t need a loading screen to a loading screen.

Q: What kind of things do you want to look at, maybe implementing or improving to kind of bring the competitive scene in to its own fruition in the game? I know it’s a tricky one.
A: I will say this, I can’t actually answer that question on the stream. But I can say this: We are in active talks in working on this. This is something I think would be great for apb, it was designed for it. I think there’s a lot of players who would want to see a more competitive environment, so I’ll just leave it at. You guys can all point back to the stream and go “oh, that’s what he was talking about” if it happens, if it doesn’t you can say “Oh that’s nonsense”.

Q: Weapon balance, do you plan on making changes in the near future?
A: The HVR has come up a lot, especially from reading the forums. I think personally, I think that the weapons are fairly well balanced with exceptions of course, but for the most part they’re balanced. I feel like they could be a lot less balanced than they are currently. I’d rather make a couple of little adjustments here and there, where we could remove one bullet out of a casing(Editorial: he meant magazine) so you can get one less shot off. I think that some of these things could just be tweaked a little bit. Of course, others need a little bit more adjustment. We are up for a weapon balance, we think a weapon balance is long overdue. Just go through the whole thing that we don’t have a HVR that fires a sledgehammer!

The parts I bolded felt necessary to bring up, while the red font is what pertains actively to our conversation.

MattScott thinks the design of the game perfectly goes hand in hand with having a competitive play.
Hell, It was designed for it. Saying that APB should have headshots, and make it "A clone of Counter Strike" would effectively have had him lie through his teeth to the entire $&(*@ community.
And with the handling of everything with the game, and GamersFirst, they have proven not to lie, as well as to follow through with what they promise. On top of the competitive play, he did touch on weapon balance, and his own opinions on how our game effectively plays. He further states: "I'd rather make a couple of little adjustments..." If you understand that, it means to NOT entirely revamp the gun, and combat mechanics.

So to sadly shoot down your idea, it's not going to happen with current, nor future projects for this game.

vsb · July 26, 2018

9 hours ago, 23k said:

You can't keep your answers straight at first you say players will camp, then you say players will have no place to cover themselves. You keep throwing arguments with no real weight behind them. You said if APB had headshots it would become a subpar knockoff of CSGO. CSGO and APB will never be the same ever, regardless of headshots. At best you could try to compare APB to Fortnite just because it has headshots but even then it would make no sense APB will always be APB. Only thing people compare APB to which it always has been compared to is GTA it's like a cops n robbers GTA parody type game with worse driving and even worse combat overall game flopped. That's how majority of the game industry look at APB they think APB is a joke... Hell the players themselves make memes out of APB. Again didn't you get banned for hacking? if so that just shows that the second you decided to hack you gave up on the game, becasue you were getting your a** kicked 24/7 by a bad matchmaking again if you hacked you're were part of the problem of destroying the game by hacking you just show to the new players of how bad situation in this game really is. The new players see that and they don't bother to even play the game anymore so they quit, and never comeback. The whole game needs to be reworked regardless of headshots look at this

[video]

These new players are babies. They barely can understand the game and what to do. There is no real preperation for them instead they get matched up against a silver who is more experienced, that silver is in a bronze district because he probably got tired of dealing with golds that kick his a** 24/7 in the silver district. So golds kick silvers out of the the silver district then silvers come to bronze district and they kick these babies out of games. The whole system is broken. Whole system needs to be reworked regardless of headshots. The driving the hitboxes, the hitreg, the servers, the matchmaking the weapons everything.

not even going to bother picking this apart, every single one of your posts is a jumbled mess

main points

you still dont understand the difference between defenders and attackers
comparing apb to gta is just as silly as comparing apb to csgo
yes ive cheated, get over it
video shows someone who didnt even bother to try the tutorial
fixing the existing systems does not mean the same thing as reworking system to add headshots

nice to see that you cant even keep your own suggestion thread on topic tho

Edited July 26, 2018 by BXNNXD
typo

Fortune Runner · July 26, 2018

5 hours ago, 23k said:

it's a completely different game one is 1st person shooter other is 3rd person shooter completely different combat, different movements, everything is different.

At least you admitted that part which is our point about "We do not want another clone game so get over it"
The changes you said to do would make it the same , and yet you can't get that point , even though YOU said it yourself that it is what you wanted and a majority said no its a bad idea

Just like the little kids from steam who clearly don't get it either - they do not know programming or business but they demand they are right and want it now like they are entitled to have another clone game just to get bored by the 1 shot 1 kill you said to do in your FIRST POST

And if you are going to list a bunch of links then I have to say this :
LINKS CAN BE EMBEDDED WITH DANGEROUS CODE WITH OR WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE SO IF ITS NOT FROM OUR FORUMS I REFUSE TO LOOK AT THEM
I've seen the same kids for years think "I want APB like this game or that game" and that is not what makes APB what it is today..... What other game has lasted nearly a decade? They programmed APB that long ago you know and it is still AHEAD OF MOST MODERN GAMES

Also a lot of the people who say something is broken simply didn't like a mod or gun being used against them.... Anyone who reads our APB forums can see that pretty easily...
That does not make it broken BUT it does mean to get better or as some people say "git gud"

So no you do not have any valid arguments to even consider listening to you any further ESPECIALLY since you keep contradicting yourself repeatedly....

We do not want headshots to make it another clone game
We do not want 1 shot 1 kill like you wanted it is a horrible idea for any game
We flat out REFUSE
Get over it shoo go away puppy shoo shoo

50 minutes ago, Sergsininia said:

The parts I bolded felt necessary to bring up, while the red font is what pertains actively to our conversation.

Thank you for that I had forgotten to
It makes me happy that someone remembered to quote MattScott about APB and why Little Orbit is here (As well as why we stayed all these years hoping for a new sunrise)

40 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

nice to see that you cant even keep your own suggestion thread on topic tho

Possibly off topic on what I'm about to ask maybe you can enlighten me....I'm tired at the moment so I can't figure it out...
Why did he get fixated on me when so many people said many MANY good reasons not to do this?
Ans aren't you glad he didn't want to add weird stuff to the game like healing pixies or something?

magik · July 26, 2018

10 hours ago, 23k said:

You can't keep your answers straight at first you say players will camp, then you say players will have no place to cover themselves. You keep throwing arguments with no real weight behind them. You said if APB had headshots it would become a subpar knockoff of CSGO. CSGO and APB will never be the same ever, regardless of headshots. At best you could try to compare APB to Fortnite just because it has headshots but even then it would make no sense APB will always be APB. Only thing people compare APB to which it always has been compared to is GTA it's like a cops n robbers GTA parody type game with worse driving and even worse combat overall game flopped. That's how majority of the game industry look at APB they think APB is a joke... Hell the players themselves make memes out of APB. Again didn't you get banned for hacking? if so that just shows that the second you decided to hack you gave up on the game, becasue you were getting your a** kicked 24/7 by a bad matchmaking again if you hacked you're were part of the problem of destroying the game by hacking you just show to the new players of how bad situation in this game really is. The new players see that and they don't bother to even play the game anymore so they quit, and never comeback. The whole game needs to be reworked regardless of headshots look at this
[video]
These new players are babies. They barely can understand the game and what to do. There is no real preperation for them instead they get matched up against a silver who is more experienced, that silver is in a bronze district because he probably got tired of dealing with golds that kick his a** 24/7 in the silver district. So golds kick silvers out of the the silver district then silvers come to bronze district and they kick these babies out of games. The whole system is broken. Whole system needs to be reworked regardless of headshots. The driving the hitboxes, the hitreg, the servers, the matchmaking the weapons everything.

Really? If it was a joke, why did so many companies have an interest in purchasing it in 2012? Why did Little Orbit (A company known for producing Licensed games) purchase the rights? If this is your argument, then it's not really well backed up, nor developed.
Show me a game where the players DON'T at all make any memes? In fact, quite the contrary, most memes of games I know are inside jokes, just as LilyV3's suicide grenade gif (sorry Lily, it's pretty damn funny)
They tend to show more approval or disproval of certain aspects that the game has, and showcases how much support the game receives from its community.
Not pertinent to the conversation.
What in any way, shape or form does someone potentially hacking have to do with their opinion on a game?
Where is your evidence someone has hacked? So what if he has?
These rules prevent you from harassing him for it:

Quote

No Harassment: Continued intimidation, pressurized, pestering or forceful remarks towards a member in public or in private, sexual or otherwise

No Naming/Shaming: If you believe someone is cheating please reach out to our support or to our GMs

No talking about bans: This is private information to the player itself, you should not be giving this information to other players. Please reach out to our support if this happens

And if you interpret the rules a certain way:

Quote

No Hate Speech: Discriminatory language or comments towards certain groups (sexist, racist, or homophobic in nature)

Define reworked, and some might agree. The game does need fixing, but not something to change it.

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

1 hour ago, Sergsininia said:

Pretty much everyone has read what you've posted.
Everything you've posted is the same jumbled up crap being slew about, bringing elements that need to be fixed, or modified, and using those as justification to fix headshots (spawn system, really?)

Spawns have had their system changed, and they need to be modified to accommodate for a better set of spawns. What at all does this have to do with headshots?

All this pointless banter is getting nowhere. @BXNNXD has already, and thoroughly, gone through your posts, and countered each and every point you presented.
What more would get this going?

Absolutely nothing. A quote from MattScott: The parts I bolded felt necessary to bring up, while the red font is what pertains actively to our conversation.

MattScott thinks the design of the game perfectly goes hand in hand with having a competitive play.
Hell, It was designed for it. Saying that APB should have headshots, and make it "A clone of Counter Strike" would effectively have had him lie through his teeth to the entire $&(*@ community.
And with the handling of everything with the game, and GamersFirst, they have proven not to lie, as well as to follow through with what they promise. On top of the competitive play, he did touch on weapon balance, and his own opinions on how our game effectively plays. He further states: "I'd rather make a couple of little adjustments..." If you understand that, it means to NOT entirely revamp the gun, and combat mechanics.

So to sadly shoot down your idea, it's not going to happen with current, nor future projects for this game.

Matt Scott never talked about about headshots. How adding headshots to APB will make it a CSGO clone? do you even think before you write? That would make League of Legends a clone of Dota and Dota a clone of Warcraft 3. Guild Wars 2, Tera, all clones of World of Warcraft and World of Warcraft a clone of Lineage. Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs, Mafia, all clones of GTA. Crysis would be a clone of Far Cry. Doom would be a clone of Duke Nukem. Fortnite would be a clone of PUBG and PUPG would be a clone of Arma 3. Left 4 dead would be a clone of Killing Floor. Call of duty would be a clone of Battlefield. The Evil within would be a clone of Resident Evil 4. The Crew would be a clone of NFS and list goes on and on the whole gaming industry would be cloned, you see how flawed your logic is? If you say APB just because of headshots would somehow become a clone of CSGO then you automatically remove yourself from any serious conversation because you literally make no sense.

magik · July 26, 2018

1 minute ago, 23k said:

2 hours ago, Sergsininia said:

Pretty much everyone has read what you've posted.
Everything you've posted is the same jumbled up crap being slew about, bringing elements that need to be fixed, or modified, and using those as justification to fix headshots (spawn system, really?)

Spawns have had their system changed, and they need to be modified to accommodate for a better set of spawns. What at all does this have to do with headshots?

All this pointless banter is getting nowhere. @BXNNXD has already, and thoroughly, gone through your posts, and countered each and every point you presented.
What more would get this going?

Absolutely nothing. A quote from MattScott: The parts I bolded felt necessary to bring up, while the red font is what pertains actively to our conversation.

MattScott thinks the design of the game perfectly goes hand in hand with having a competitive play.
Hell, It was designed for it. Saying that APB should have headshots, and make it "A clone of Counter Strike" would effectively have had him lie through his teeth to the entire $&(*@ community.
And with the handling of everything with the game, and GamersFirst, they have proven not to lie, as well as to follow through with what they promise. On top of the competitive play, he did touch on weapon balance, and his own opinions on how our game effectively plays. He further states: "I'd rather make a couple of little adjustments..." If you understand that, it means to NOT entirely revamp the gun, and combat mechanics.

So to sadly shoot down your idea, it's not going to happen with current, nor future projects for this game.

Matt Scott never talked about about headshots. How adding headshots to APB will make it a CSGO clone? do you even think before you write? That would make League of Legends a clone of Dota and Dota a clone of Warcraft 3. Guild Wars 2, Tera, all clones of World of Warcraft and World of Warcraft a clone of Lineage. Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs, Mafia, all clones of GTA. Crysis would be a clone of Far Cry. Doom would be a clone of Duke Nukem. Fortnite would be a clone of PUBG and PUPG would be a clone of Arma 3. Left 4 dead would be a clone of Killing Floor. Call of duty would be a clone of Battlefield. The Evil within would be a clone of Resident Evil 4. The Crew would be a clone of NFS and list goes on and on the whole gaming industry would be cloned, you see how flawed your logic is? If you say APB just because of headshots would somehow become a clone of CSGO then you automatically remove yourself from any serious conversation because you literally make no sense.

My "Clone of Counter Strike" was meant figuratively, and not even the point of my argument. Please reread.

Fortune Runner · July 26, 2018

Just now, 23k said:

2 hours ago, Sergsininia said:

Pretty much everyone has read what you've posted.
Everything you've posted is the same jumbled up crap being slew about, bringing elements that need to be fixed, or modified, and using those as justification to fix headshots (spawn system, really?)

Spawns have had their system changed, and they need to be modified to accommodate for a better set of spawns. What at all does this have to do with headshots?

All this pointless banter is getting nowhere. @BXNNXD has already, and thoroughly, gone through your posts, and countered each and every point you presented.
What more would get this going?

Absolutely nothing. A quote from MattScott: The parts I bolded felt necessary to bring up, while the red font is what pertains actively to our conversation.

MattScott thinks the design of the game perfectly goes hand in hand with having a competitive play.
Hell, It was designed for it. Saying that APB should have headshots, and make it "A clone of Counter Strike" would effectively have had him lie through his teeth to the entire $&(*@ community.
And with the handling of everything with the game, and GamersFirst, they have proven not to lie, as well as to follow through with what they promise. On top of the competitive play, he did touch on weapon balance, and his own opinions on how our game effectively plays. He further states: "I'd rather make a couple of little adjustments..." If you understand that, it means to NOT entirely revamp the gun, and combat mechanics.

So to sadly shoot down your idea, it's not going to happen with current, nor future projects for this game.

Matt Scott never talked about about headshots. How adding headshots to APB will make it a CSGO clone? do you even think before you write? That would make League of Legends a clone of Dota and Dota a clone of Warcraft 3. Guild Wars 2, Tera, all clones of World of Warcraft and World of Warcraft a clone of Lineage. Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs, Mafia, all clones of GTA. Crysis would be a clone of Far Cry. Doom would be a clone of Duke Nukem. Fortnite would be a clone of PUBG and PUPG would be a clone of Arma 3. Left 4 dead would be a clone of Killing Floor. Call of duty would be a clone of Battlefield. The Evil within would be a clone of Resident Evil 4. The Crew would be a clone of NFS and list goes on and on the whole gaming industry would be cloned, you see how flawed your logic is? If you say APB just because of headshots would somehow become a clone of CSGO then you automatically remove yourself from any serious conversation because you literally make no sense.

Dude seriously?

Did you even read the Q&A MattScott did? Did you ever watch it ?
Have you even read this thread at all?

if any of this thread posts or even the countless threads on anything we have talked about (old forums and new forums) STILL makes no sense to you.... then try to consider the problem just might be you...wow

Similarities · July 26, 2018

Anyone who thinks headshots should be added/would be interesting shall have their opinion invalidated automatically and removed from discussion, you shall go directly to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.

magik · July 26, 2018

1 minute ago, Similarities said:

Anyone who thinks headshots should be added/would be interesting shall have their opinion invalidated automatically and removed from discussion, you shall go directly to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.

Please make this a community chest card

Slickmund · July 26, 2018

Im at the point where Id be willing to pay LO to mute 23k really. Hes darned stubborn, prickly, offensive every now and then and most of all self righteous which I have little respect for. Surely my comment isnt relevant cus bla bla random counter argument x by which he means I am personally attacking him rather than discussin. Its just ugh, been nearly a week of talking against a brick wall that thinks hes a well of wisdom. What makes the never ending story a good story? It has a fucking ending! Someone please just make this stop. Only shitposting or no posting would be more constructive than this discussion.

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

2 hours ago, BXNNXD said:

not even going to bother picking this apart, every single one of your posts is a jumbled mess

main points
you still dont understand the difference between defenders and attackers

comparing apb to gta is just as silly as comparing apb to csgo

yes ive cheated, get over it

video shows someone who didnt even bother to try the tutorial

fixing the existing systems does not mean the same thing as reworking system to add headshots

nice to see that you cant even keep your own suggestion thread on topic tho

Now you! everything you say i take with a grain of salt, simply because you hacked. YOU were part of the problem of APB, now you call my posts jumbled mess, you just show how ignorant you are. That is all visual proof right in your face, from hundreds of players i just posted some, not all. I didn't bother posting all of them, i just posted some, so you could get an understanding of how bad the situation of the game is. The fact is, you cheated. I played since 2011 never cheated, i'm not saying i'm special or something, but the thing is YOU gave up on the game the second you started to cheat. You didn't give a f*** about the game the second you turned your little hacks on. You were a part of the problem of why the BABIES left the game. Now you want me to believe, that you care for the game and it's future? Fixing existing problems and then implementing headshots to the game would make the combat more advanced, more skill based, instead of having a single one block of pathetic hit box that you don't even have to hit a character to actually make the shot count, you can just shoot next to a character and that would register as a shot! And YOU are trying to convince me like that is better than a well balanced and reconfigured hitbox system with headshots? I can't take you serious. Edited July 26, 2018 by 23k

XXXXXXXXXXX · July 26, 2018

11 minutes ago, Slickmund said:

Im at the point where Id be willing to pay LO to mute 23k really. Hes darned stubborn, prickly, offensive every now and then and most of all self righteous which I have little respect for. Surely my comment isnt relevant cus bla bla random counter argument x by which he means I am personally attacking him rather than discussin. Its just ugh, been nearly a week of talking against a brick wall that thinks hes a well of wisdom. What makes the never ending story a good story? It has a fucking ending! Someone please just make this stop. Only shitposting or no posting would be more constructive than this discussion.

You can't go against the truth, simple as that. When you can't face the truth what do you do? in your case you try to silence it, because you can't handle it.

CookiePuss · July 26, 2018

still OP right now...

Make APB fun to play.

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