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to the orginial poster, This topic is very dear 2 me.. and thank you for bringing it back up again. You have no hate from me but a lot of love and understanding when it comes to these DETHREATERS purposefully Abusing the Current threat system. you see I barley get 100 kills a week in,(that's playing for 4+ hours a day for the entire week) but yet most if not every 1 of my opponents can do that in less time that it takes me to make a lunch. And I am 1 of these FARMS. does it piss me off???? hell yea it does..do I cuss these induviduals out in chat for it??? yes I do... a lot. but yet they still target me for their piggy bank. When I get in a mission I might die no less then 20 times a match and might get 2 assist in. my scores are usually so low that they don't register, and I usually get 0 cash from missions do other players delibertly target me for easy kills?? Yes they do...its severly unfair to me and my game experience.. Do I love APB??? yea I kinda do. my current rank is 214 and that just tells some 1 I'm determined to keep playing...My personal Threat level stays Bronze. And I don't use/abuse the ADV. LAUNCHER to get back into my correct threat district.. at 1 point in time(there gone now) we had the OPEN CONFLICT Districts...That's where skilled players went to farm noobs. that was considered the MISSION BATTLE ROYAL.. Thank you again for reposting a very serious topic that is killing this great game. with the current system in play, I agree there will NOT be any new growth, I have witnessed a handful of people just up and vanish a few hours after they start a character here. when you constantly see the SPAWN SCREEN on top of each other it does get very frustrating. most of the senior players know where the spawn points are, they really do like to sit on em and keep killing the newbee as he/she does spawn in.. this is also very frustrating and on the verge of being HARRASSMENT when these players are farming for kills. I really dread death-matches...there just a farmers paradise.. when you constantly see the same players getting 15+ kills per-mission but only die about 4 times, its time they moved on to face people of their own skill levels. and every time I log in I do see a ton of players from both factions in the silver districts.. so that's Bull Crap about the bronze districts being the only 1's that have a decient population.

I have a small suggestion that will go over with the general community like a nuke going off. Reciently there has been a number of players getting shut-out on missions and going broke. my suggestion is this.... 2 times an hour lets make SOLO-MISSIONS that pay in the area of 500 credits for players. SOLO-MISSIONS means 1 player ONLY not your buddies helping out.NO TEAMS These missions would include doing OBJECTIVES with a mission timer. the faster you get to the objectives the more cash you make. And yes the objectives can be clear across the map from each other. the npc's and other players on normal mission are the obstacle here. Now I am purposing this as an alternative to building a crim char in the game.. 4 indivudials who don't like playing a criminal character.. But I do have a downside....it's for CASH only...so NO points going towards a threat change nor points for contacts as well. now would this be Something worth looking into by L.O.???

as I write this I 2 cannot log in to the game itself...but on changing my password it also said ERROR... but our pw's and account info still work here on the main website..i'm gonna try again in a few hours. if not then I'll send in a support ticket . I suggest the same for every 1 here

Again I hate to agree with VickyFox, but I am here.... I've lost count my damn self of how many proposals on the subject of locked districts...... now I have a new idea.... let's make the match maker on BRONZE DISTRICT a pay 2 play district.... if your not Green/Bronze threat level, you need to pay $100,000 in-game currency every 4 hours just to play there...while there you will receive only 100 pts and cash per mission you do, no matter how much you do... even if you get 30 kills... your over all score will be 100 pts and $100 cash... Is this mean?? Fu CK yea it is...

Another thread I am displeased to agree with Viki Fox on this issue... "Locked Districts " have been purposed for right at the year ive been playing... @ 1st the population was not there, but now it is...what L.O needs to do is HURT the dethreaters in their pockets pretty freaking bad in order to restore some balance in the game... in my opinion if your 2 threat levels ABOVE your current district, you should be maxed out @ 100pts and cash per mission you do...no matter how much you do.....

RovingFox, I've been a very loud voice in asking the same thing you just did for right at 6 months now.... the advanced options, at this point in APB's time, will not change... theirs too freaking many pussies here who need it in order to keep their kill count high as FUCK... while very low skilled players constantly get screwed... all's these certified idiots will tell you is this " quit complaining and get good" I do tell the same idiots the same thing.... but I'm more hostile on that subject... my favorite is I call em coward as hoes who abuse the advanced district selections.... and to the idiot's that want or need 2 play with "friends" they need 2 use the "OPEN CONFLICT " Districts as their turf.. not the Bronze Match Maker On Districts...

The current demerit system sucks dog sh/@... what needs to happen is this.... once a player tks a mate, the 1st one is accidental, the 2nd 1 needs to be penalize by 5,000 cash going to the player being tked...on the 3rd tk it needs to be tripled.... until you hit 5... then the auto kick along with a reduction in your cash by 1.25million... all goes to the tkee...

I used to throw matches by NOT perticpitating in them.... when i know I had a few teammates (usually a gold threat level) who needs 2 have an extreme low score in order 2 relog back into the Bronze Match Maker On Districts....or even against players who i know are in the low districts in order 2 "farm" kills... Now because of the severely bad 1 sided matches I have uninstalled... but I will try again after thanksgiving of this year....

Now after 7+ months of 0laying this wonderful game, i am now taking a 5+ month break... when i check back in around Christmas, if i see the match maker is a little more "fairer" for individuals like me, then id stay.... if not...."shrugs"

IF, they fix the MM, i would not have a problem...but we do need these farming idiots out of the Bronze Districts all together....every time i try and log in I have a minimal of 20 minute wait just 2 play....right now it's a guarantee that out of 40 ENF's, theirs gonna be 30 that are mixed between damn good silvers and golds.... only 10 BRONZE players in the district.... same goes for CRIM... And when these idiots see a BRONZE player IN the Bronze District, they do their damndest to make sure they farm the hell out of em.that bronzee is guarantee to die 10 times before the final portion of the match..

i've been playing steady now for 7 months....its ALWAYS THE SAME FREAKIN a$s hoes who STAY in the Bronze district doing the beating,,,,and the rest of us are not getting any better just more and more frustrated...so I can spout ur same BULLSH!T right back at you,,,......your hurting ur own freakin game by not advancing 2 a district where your own freakin skills are matched...

Thanks Runner... I do get up set pretty damn hard over this issue.. and really don't mean 2... it just happens...

Folks....alls i want is a little more fairer on the mach makin...that's all...i really don't understand about 60% of this thread....and i admit that,,but as it stands now with the current system in play....more and more people will leave cause their getting slaughtered to hard when their trying to learn the game...and as a low skilled player with handicaps,, it is frustrating as hell right now...

i see remote detonators pretty damn regularly in the bronze districts.....most people above R195 use em to block OBJs....and get an easy kill when their opp try and do the obj while not knowing what the char...equipment is...the detonators are a severely unfair advantage over low ranks who are just starting the game...

Thanks Nessie, i've been trying to convey somethings along the same thinking as you just put down....but my normal post here i do after i've been brutally raped in a series of back/back/back missions.....i know it's not right, but at times i cannot help it.....and if i did take a moment to sit and think about things after i calm down a little, i would sound a lot more respectful like you just did.....and not a raving lunatic....like most of my post usually are.....

i agree with you here....thats a 1t for me...

for these higher threats...they(L.O.) can give a penalty for em killing and bashing in a district 2 threat levels BELOW their current 1s....based on your current skill lvl and gear levels to your opp in 1 match you can see as high as a 90% reduction in points/cash earned...and on your next battle you might be able to see a 20% reduction in points/cash earned.... for example...CHADCHASE a 255 rank CRIM w/ a MEDUSA in his 1st match is silver....no penalty needed.... in his 2nd match of the day he goes GOLD..again no penalty needed....(happens all the time)...Now hes considered a major threat to any 1 of low/now skilled players and new players in general in the BRONZE DISTRICTS... now match 3...CHAD here is a 255 GOLD MEDUSA USING PLAYER vs. a rank 22 Bronze ENF that still uses the STARTER gun.....lets call her Maggie.... you see Maggie dies 12 times a match gets 0 objs done and might get 3 kills if lucky for the assist....match maker is unkind to Maggie...now in this match CHAD should get a 90% reduction in points earned for killin Maggie...instead of 100 he should only get 10...if CHAD is on a DEFEND mission, he should get 1 point per minute while he's sitting on the obj...... Now for Maggie those points and cash earned should be doubled for doing OBJECTIVES and KILLING CHAD...instead of the normal 150 pts for breaking a door she should get 300...and again Maggie should get 200 pts for each kill on CHAD instead of the standard 100..... Lets increase the rewards to hunt and hurt bashers in the bronze districts while at the same time encourage the same bashers to play players of their own skill levels...not low skilled 1s.. and VIKI FOX, this game primarily a kill or be killed...so yes a KTD ratio DOES indicate skill level...most of the players i run across don't give 1 rats behind worth of screwballs about doing the objectives....they just want to kill you...THAT IS APB ....or like you just said, arrest you....and ARREST does count as a KILL... it might not have been that way 100 years ago when you joined this game and community.... but it is now... LIKE YOU KEEP TELLING ME....GET USED TO IT....ITS GONNA BE THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME.... and to do this <<<<<<<< Besides anyone could get a OCA, or Joker Carbine and you don't need skills to just run and gun. you still need some skill in order to AIM your gun...these weapons don't come with built in aimbot.....or at least for me they never did....

for these higher threats...they(L.O.) can give a penalty for em killing and bashing in a district 2 threat levels BELOW their current 1s....based on your current skill lvl and gear levels to your opp in 1 match you can see as high as a 90% reduction in points/cash earned...and on your next battle you might be able to see a 20% reduction in points/cash earned.... for example...CHADCHASE a 255 rank CRIM w/ a MEDUSA in his 1st match is silver....no penalty needed.... in his 2nd match of the day he goes GOLD..again no penalty needed....(happens all the time)...Now hes considered a major threat to any 1 of low/now skilled players and new players in general in the BRONZE DISTRICTS... now match 3...CHAD here is a 255 GOLD MEDUSA USING PLAYER vs. a rank 22 Bronze ENF that still uses the STARTER gun.....lets call her Maggie.... you see Maggie dies 12 times a match gets 0 objs done and might get 3 kills if lucky for the assist....match maker is unkind to Maggie...now in this match CHAD should get a 90% reduction in points earned for killin Maggie...instead of 100 he should only get 10...if CHAD is on a DEFEND mission, he should get 1 point per minute while he's sitting on the obj...... Now for Maggie those points and cash earned should be doubled for doing OBJECTIVES and KILLING CHAD...instead of the normal 150 pts for breaking a door she should get 300...and again Maggie should get 200 pts for each kill on CHAD instead of the standard 100..... Lets increase the rewards to hunt and hurt bashers in the bronze districts while at the same time encourage the same bashers to play players of their own skill levels...not low skilled 1s..

i have been a VERY LOUD VOICE on the poor match making in this game....and i will continue to do that until something gives....im not askin much, just that it be a little more fairer...people's skill levels in this game do very a freakin lot......instead of matching a brand new T against a 255 gold that's been playing for 4 years, the T is gonna uninstall...no questions asked...i have watched over 100 people a month uninstall this game in my 7 months playing because of the poor match making.. in battle or during any kind of movement i get between 12-18 FPS...respectfully...and some have told me thats eye cancer because its so low... but these same idiots take full freakin advantage of it and kill me 20 times a freakin match, while i see 0 pts or cash.. that's severely unfair 2 me..and i really do love this game......id like to see around for another 20 years if possible...

I for 1 love the lagg....at least now most of the people playing are at my level of experience and FPS.....and I do ABSOLUTLY FREAKIN LOVE IT WHEN JERICHO CRASHES:))))) IT KICKS ALL THE HATEFUL/HARMFUL GOLDS OUT OF THE BRONZE DISTRICTS OF THE GAME.... it usually takes em about 30 minutes to DETHREAT to bring their sorry tails back in though:((... WE NEED MORE SERVERS DOWN AND CRASHES....THIS WILL HELP THE LOW SKILLED BRONZE PLAYERS FINALLY GET EVEN MATCHES....

i can't believe your dumbazz went there....with the current match makin system in place alls it's making me do is want/need to find a few of these idiots and rip their freakin throats out.. ...i have a problem seeing with my eyes at times... and after 7 months of getting brutally raped in EVERY FU(KIN MATCH is taking its toll on me...how is that FU(KING helping me get better???? and right now ALOT OF THESE FREAKING IDIOTS is abusing the mission areas of the game...if i was a GM id ban em all for life...be glad im not..

good idea for toilet paper.. and u r correct when you said the threat system needs an overhaul pretty damn badly.... the dethreat system in place as it stand does cause a lot of hurt feelings...I for 1 would LOVE 2 see most players who abuse this system be banned for life and their gear be placed in a joker lotto thing...100 joker tickets for a lotto ticket... I for 1 am tired of EACH AND EVERY FREAKIN MATCH I get into on my CORRECT THREAT DISTRICT being FACE FU@#ED because if these COWARD A$$ GOLDS who have the freakin skill level to face people in the HIGHER threat districts, but instead the STAY in the BRONZE areas of the game just because they can get 20 kills a match...they treat the bronze districts like their personal fight club....and yet when an equal opponent for them does show up, they run and hide and BIT(H,,, oh they BIT(H up a freakin storm when they have an EQUAL MATCH... the only thing to me that made any sense on how to balance it was this<<<<<<requency-Playing-Based Rating.>>>>>> I personally have a 3.4 kill ratio in my over all hours of games played......and yet i keep getting opponents who have a 50+ kill ratio in total gaming hrs played....this is EXTREMELY UN FU(KIN FAIR 2 ME and other people like me who have a low skill rating...and low skills for that matter Dethreaters exist because facing another player of the same level is not well rewarded, plus cheaters. And going to lower threats they get the same rewards as they would on top and with easier oponents. Abusing lower skilled players has come an addiction it seems. i totally agree here....i've been playing for almost 7 months now and have seen this in full force.... For I am a daily player that has been abused by the handful of morons who do stay in the BRONZE DISTRICTS cause it's easier for them to get kills....and get the SAME rewards as from the higher threat districts.... and yes i do skip missions pretty damn regulery cause of the stoppin i get in previous missions w/ the same freakin opp.....and i do suffer on points and cash for that as well...it beats trying my azz off for 0 points and cash and im out 500 rounds of rifle ammo...which i have no way of replacing... MY 1 FREAKIN SUGGESTION THAT KEEPS GETTING SHOT TO HELL AND BACK WOULD REFREAKIN DUCE SOME OF THE BRUTALITY OF DETHREATERS..... iF THEY CANNOT GET IN A DISTRICT 1 level BELOW their CURRENT THREAT LVL>>>>they would have to dethreat all the way to bronze to get back in...and most cannot do that....so please remove the ADVANCED OPTIONS MENU for DISTRICT SELECTION..... if they NEED to play with friends of a different threat level then they are, they can use OPEN CONFLICT..... That's what that district is there for.... I guarantee you this,....if an ADMIN goes into any bronze district at any givin time they will see 2/3rds of the population is GOLD....most of that population if not ALL OF THEM are the DETHREATING scum bags that hurt the game growth,....because its easier for them 2 keep their kill rate high as hell...and their points/cash is out ragious and in my humble opinion, dethreaters are hold overs from G1s attempt at threat segregation in the 1st place..... they were created to help them make mega cash in the ARMAS marketplace....while the screwed up match making went on, people needed to buy a better guns to help them fight off the sorry craps that brutality raped em in every mission....only to find themselves out of hundreds of dollars and still getting raped...

Right now their's a SH!T load of GOLDS, real FU(K!NG HIGH SKILLED players in there purposefully keeping their kill count HIGH AS HELL while NOT helping any 1 to learn the game...except by BRUTALLY FACE FU(K!ING en to make em quit... I have personally watched over 6+ months of playing APB that no LESS than 600 people download the game just to uninstall a few minutes later to never play again... Why you ask??? Cause of MAJOR 255 GOLDS like CHADCHASE who use a medusa of all FU(K!ING WEAPONS to keep his kill count above 15 in each match he gets into...then after a few hrs of his BU!!SH!T he has to dethreat to log back in on his next gaming session....(INDIVIDUALS) like Chad here get paired against people who barley can get 4 kills in 4 hrs...so how in the FU(k IS THIS FAIR???? Now after the last owners abandonment of the game the match making went STRAIT TO THE POOP FARM ... NOW WE need a major over haul of the current match maker on APB... People like Chad are too busy using the Bronze missions match maker on District as his personal KILL FARM or slaughter house or even Fight Club...If you get rid of the TREAT LEVELS of all the players, the Support Staff will not be able to handle to shear volume of people sending in support tickets for possible hackers and cheaters.... 1 GOOD SIGN OF FAITH ON ORBITS PART WOULD BE TO GET RID OF THE ADVANCED OPTIONS when you 1st load the game in...it would force people to play in their own threat level districts as well as the OPEN CONFLICT DISTRICTS... THIS will ensure that people of low to no skilled players will not be farmed...at least for a short period of time... this is only a TEMP. FIX.... There will be players in mass who will abuse the DEThreat system in order to get back to farming noobs again...those you can life bann...and i'm sure they will be reported in great numbers