Sgt Drayke

Now that is interesting.. well if you are playing relatively new titles, or be it newer then apb you might not experience the crashes, as apb could be using or trying to action a very specific thing that over games or titles just don't. and the fact that you were able to prolong the crash says a lot. I cant see frequency being the issue, easy test tho, simply load an OC tool, create a profile with reduced power usage, a small amount like 10% off. or be it to 90% pwr. it will change how the card priorities any boost. but I dont think that will be the issue. If you don't mind, totally up to you, if you could upload your log file, ? put it to google drive/ or which ever cloud storage you might have and either link it here or dm me. it has me puzzled now. Location for logs are : if steam = _ [install directory] \Steam\Steamapps\common\APB Reloaded\APBGame\Logs if stand alone [install directory] \APB Reloaded\APBGame\Logs and locate the last log should be titled "current.log" Additionally you can check Steam\Steamapps\common\APB Reloaded\Binaries "crashReport.log" if the last time you ran the game it crashed both logs will show the events. Additionally, You can always try another one, Retitle your Shader folder to "shaderbk" then load the apb launcher and repair,. this will re-download & install your shader files. this is were vertex files are stored. so many its easier to back up the folder/rename it for safe keeping. [install directory] \Steam\Steamapps\common\APB Reloaded\Engine\Shaders but if you have already reinstalled the game since doing your driver/dx/framework updates then pointless as you will have new files. I am trying to reproduce any errors my end.

Hi Professional Egghead. hope your well I get that everyone's setup (hardware build plus OS / software) are all different, some of the tips I gave have helped a few already in my community, so simply sharing it out might help more. I did forget to mention, although not as common is Resolution, If people are running res's that where not common back when the game was originally created or to last related patch, for example monitors using ultra wide 3440x1440 ,3840x1200 2560x1080 as examples.. you will notice issues with older Dx9 games, if the support for these resolutions are not included, to my understanding APBR was only launched with support of Vga Dynamic - 640x480 upto 1920x1200 2560x1600 and then later patched to support HD 720 1080. running any game above release req would add system load, and during my own testing I have found running the game fullscreen 4k or fullscreen 1440 does indeed use more system memory and present the "out of memory" error. however for my self running window 1440, the game does not go above 3gb system memory. this could also contribute to the DX error. when I have been able to run the game Fullscreen 4k, 3830x2160 the game struggles although putting the game to window mode above 7k across two screens the game does not struggle. besides all of that.. If you don't mind me asking, what issue was you having if you were? I'm looking forward to Yangeline reply if they have tried. if not meh no biggy. keep safe all.

Ok so... with out going all in geek talk "D3DERR_DEVICELOST" = "D3DERR_DEVICELOST errors are usually caused by an issue with the graphics drivers on the system. This can be a conflict with DirectX 3D drivers or display drivers for your video card (such as the NVIDIA display drivers for GT, GTX & RTX cards or Radeon drivers for the AMD Radeon RX and RX Vega cards). You can try to update the drivers or perform a clean install of the drivers for your graphics card to resolve this issue." Also failed at Src\ would say at "source" .. \D3d9..... So three things I would look into.. 1, did you do a complete clean install of the latest driver for your card? - Clean as in completely remove the old driver and reinstall. *(not install /replace original) = it is rare but well known that when gpu drivers do their smart install they can corrupt files. make sure you download the latest version, put it to desktop and then when you unistall your gpu driver you know exactly were the new one will be, you can also use DDU Here (direct link to Guru3d) BUT you need to read the instructions and understand what you need to do. 2. Worth doing a repair/install of the latest Dx pack. from Here (Direct link MS site select language and download) follow onscreen instructions , selected either repair or install depending which it offers. ( note that you should be up dating your os, Preferably its windows 10 for RTX cards) 3. Have you installed the latest Net framework. 4.5 i think we are on now.. wrong 4.8 get it here (direct link MS site click download) once you have done any 1 of the 3 options you should always do a clean restart your computer. and when you launch APB Validate files/repair. AS for Antivirus, Dx files are normally associated with MS OS, however if you have installed any "applications" of the free or not from a secure source. that might of used or configured with your Dx files then AV might restricted access. normally dodgy 3rd party games or mobile games using emulators, hope this helps. let me know how it goes.

So there is a lot of different "factors" to take into consideration, but the fundamentals are pretty simple. however there is really no Ultra setting. Low medium and kind of max for APB. The Games happy spot with hardware I have found is as follows, minimum Quad Core 2.6ghz - Absolute Minimum 4 GB DDR3 memory - Minumum GTX980 {my previous card was a 980 and played this game perfectly] (not sure for amd/ati) but this will not be high res/Q. - windows 10 is actually more stable & 32bit or 64bit doesnt matter, 64bit is better . You can also still run this game on a HDD 7200rpm. no noticeable different to my SSD version. My own setup if it is of interest , but not vital, Intel 8 core 16 thread 3.4Ghz - 32GB DDR4 2133Mhz - EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX3070 - OS on SSD - APB install on sata3 (6) HDD 7200rpm - monitor 4k 60hz , played at 2560x1440 at 60fps. One big issue with this game since wheyyyy-back-when is the system memory , it wants and will use 3GB easy. there is this unconfirmed 3GB limit which causes the game to crash. even having 32GB in my system the game will go to 3GB and crash. Fix for my self and possibly others Res above 1920x1080 in game and on monitors above this res. Screen Grabs = "Here" Basic Options > Quality = Custom - Resolution set - option fullscreen = Window mode/borderless - Vsync off - Smooth Frame Rate on - Advanced options > all on - except > Low quality heath hud = off - render eye-lashes = off - Anisotropy = x2 (no point going higher) - Anti Aliasing (beta Feature) = Off. Go to Your "Nvidia Control Panel > manage 3d settings > program settings > add = Locate APB Reloaded (you might have to located it in the installed directory) do not select launcher, you want the actual game.exe. IN "specify settings for this program > set & make sure you click "apply" before exiting. you will have to completely close apb if you had it open, and relaunch the game. graphics Notes : 1) ingame Vsync off is because when you run a game in "window mode" or "borderless" these peramiters do not support in app vsync, however if you have nvidia control panel overrule this by enableing vsync the graphics card will "try" its best to sync frames of the application, same as desktop, if you run high res desktop you should run vsync as default in "global settings". 2) in nvidia control panel go to > configure surround, physX > set PhysX settings > processor = "Graphics Card name" , this will prioritise your graphics card to handle PhysX , APBR when it originally launched was a big supporter of PhysX and Rag Doll. Additional info : 1) you can run the game in "full screen borderless" mode with these settings, but it might not be as stable. Running the game 2560x1440 "window mode" on 4k (3480x2160) monitors it will only use half the screen in the middle. for some idea of size. 2) Further ways to stop memory leakage , "alt-Tab" out of game, go to task manger and locate "vivox-speach" and end this task, if you use discord and not ingame this service is a huge resource sucker, 3) close other apps, ie chrome, firefox, even discord if your not using it as they all use huge amounts of memory , if you have 4GB you need to keep it clear. 4) There is a few Dx9 Titles being reported to not like "full screen" mode on RTX cards, especially 3ks. there will not be a patch fix, companies simply dont care about dx9 now, but window mode appears to be the generic fix. I have published videos in the past about running the game over multimonitor and recently pushed the game over dual 4k monitors, just for fun. but over the 10+ years of playing APBR, its build on Dx9 + has always had system memory issues. hopefully the new UE engine build will fix this, and allow more memory allocation . Recently posted a less detailed info about my RTX3070 on the other thread > "for all Gtx16xx and RTX series users" hope this helps you.

Huh interesting. So I am also running a RTX3070 and got the error message . figured i just needed to reinstall it since upgrade, got it again. so .. I initially got the "out of memory error" running the game 2560x1440 at max everything and full screen with vysnc on + smooth frames, Reminded me of the old errors back in the day regarding 3gb system memory limit. So the simple fix I have found, like back in the day, Run the game in window, (for me at 2560x1440, Disable Vsync in game, (window mode does not run vysnc anyway) disable "render eye-lashes" & Anti-Aliasing. also only set "anisotropy" to x2, I found over the years anything above 2 just caused issues. I have still got the game running max on everything else. Note: In Nvidia Control panel > Manage 3d settings > Vertical sync = on (this will manage your desktop sync including "window modes in game, Also worth noting that most old dx9 games dont like fullscreen on RTX cards. No more error messages game is running stable, I understand everyones systems are different, but worth a try to anyone running an RTX 3k with issues. System Specs if you need to know, Intel 8 core 16 thread 3.4ghz 32gb ddr4 2133Mhz OS ssd, Game Drive 7200rpm sataIII (6) Evga RTX3070 XC3 Ultra

.... this is so funny. not that i care. but lets for 2 seconds. (time related joke in there.) This is some Business management training... "Time Investment - Investors of Time - There’s a huge difference between spending time and investing it. The word “spending” means that you’re using something up or exhausting it. When you spend time, you’re not really looking to get anything back. When you invest in something you expend resources, but you do so with an expectation of getting a good return on your investment (ROI). Investing your time means that you engage in activities which are calculated to bring you meaningful rewards. “Investing” and “ROI” are terms which, up until now, you’ve probably heard only when it comes to money. However, you should start thinking of these terms when it comes to your time, as well." In short, for those that do not run a business or company, that see time as a free limitless entente in life. (probably because school or collage, dinner is made by mum or dad etc) will not fully grasp the concept of this. but stick with me here.. you invest 4 hours, what will you gain from that? what will you accomplish in life? One of the biggest factors is > time = Reward. To play a game, requires time. of which after 4 hours what did you get from it? = reward. For a successful game to work, this rule applies. for players to "invest time they must gain reward" so achievements, perks bla bla. but in real life you still haven't gained anything. other then bragging on a forum about your stats. I play APB , and after a few hours i have either, created new content / edited code to make the game look or run better/ bug find / or helped other players ingame better them selves. = reward. Main one in there is that i put money and time into the game because i choose to.. as a content creator i capture the various content. edit it and create varied forms content and post it online. on varied platforms. thus making my reward. During that time i have promoted the game over a long period time, brought new players in, supported a small minority of the community with troubles , list goes on. so those that want to play a game for hours and then complain that they havnt done anything productive with there lives ? you only need to look at what you do with your time. In the 8 minutes it required me to type this , my reward is that maybe just maybe .. i have helped educate someone.. Im sure someone will happily spend even grater amounts of time typing out a pointless hypothetical reply with no gain or reward .

Great to so some opinions and feed back here. so "INVESTORS" as one person noted there dislike to, is a figure of speech, and can be miss understood in different countries . my apologies for that. "Someone who spends over the average amount of hours or money into any project (or be it a game) is seen to be investing there "time" & "money" into a given cause/project. so i use the term "investors" because since alpha/beta days i have invested A lot [not going to state how much] of my own hard earned money {not my parents lol) into the game, as well as personal real life time, including physical work into the game, as well as after little orbit took over, i have continued a level of "support" behind the scenes. back to topic. i can understand how "fringe for free stuff" could be brought to mind, but as i stated, i have spent a lot of money, free stuff is the last of my worries or desires. premium and the Riot thing is a different matter, as i am sure any business/ money minded "person" is aware, if you purchase a rental/ car /flat/service/broadband etc or even into a game (look at star citizen) you want what you paid for. a couple of hours here and a day there of down time is to be expected. any longer and the smell of burning money becomes stronger. Unfortunately for some of the gamer's i know they are not as fortunate with purchasing premium on a consistent basis, so losing premium time is a concern for them. [this has been "fixed" in Matts recent post] Riot i can see the intentions of RIOT, it has been requested (new content) for a long time. how ever this in my own personal mind (business mind) does not make sense. BUT i will no longer be discussing this matter on this topic. as Matt has recently posted about this down time with an apology [here], although i do still have my own opinions on some areas it is great to see transparent feedback . Genuinely thank you all for your input and opinions. hope you are all well D p.s " swindle " Tip for the future. try to not judge peoples "formatting" or any other spelling/grammar etc. some have disabilities and you will put people off posting /shareing . hope your well.

Lets get something straight first. this is not to "bash" the APB team. i have supported APB from day dot. but there's is some distaste creeping into the hardcore community,. 1. Will APB investors, ( players still purchasing premium, putting money into the game ) be "entitled" / "compensated" for the down time, ??? [ and please do not just "blanket grant" every global player with a generic premium code,, because those that actually purchase it are just mugged off for purchasing it ] Surely you must be able to see who is/has currently purchased premium prior to and over the down time , either role back the premium clock, or award codes to account emails / armas reward lockers 2. the recent* (or not recent) announcement of Riot Season passes is.. well.. disrespectful . Understandably money is always an issue. but really.. at least use a filtered player/account search for the following., 1. active accounts being played in the past 4 years + old , on a weekly basis. = yes (4 years = dedication. the game is what 8 to 9 years old. some of us have, although real life takes priority, have been on since day dot.) 2. of those accounts have purchased premium of "X" more days in the recent year . = yes ( with in the year shows the players are still investing ) 3. Any prior bans on record (that have not been over turned) = no ( hard core fair players do not use hacks , and if wrongly accused, have been reviewed, those with prior bans should not be rewarded, tricky, although we all know Little Orbit knows who is who. ) = Award with 3 or 6 month Riot Season pass for being a continued investor/player ( this then not only allows those that are continued players and content creators supporting the game, but also helps populate and "hype" the game mode ) more importantly shows a big THANK those that have invested into the game. regardless of the Little Orbit purchase as the players can not be punished for "gamersfirst" past and demise. Reads back like a rant, it is not. just some ideas and an opinion. All the Best everyone D

@neophobia ah yeh thanks. old Habit signing posts. (shows my age) thanks for pointing it out i guess.. and yes, i did state "have the OS on an ssd and the 1tb as a games drive" .. so not sure why you got that confused either? ( ) and it has been known for a very long time running any game or intensive graphics app in a window (not full screen) can lower its load , but only because running games in a window automatically disables Vsync , any aa, fxaa, and other advanced shaders, including particles, physics and the most obvious is that the GPU isnt having to push a full screen. and full res and refresh rates. but the down side is that you may notice more screen tearing. But anyway... @Wadara was just trying to help dude. & yes the "MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GT OC" would be great for your system, but be very careful of power load, as it is an OC card. check your PSU wattage and Amps on the PCI Ex Rails. You can use This Calculator to check if your psu will live .. i will now excuse my self from this Thread/convo best of luck,

Hi Wadara i would agree that your GPU isn't intended for gaming, or be it to the requirement of APBR (even if the gpu box has game advertisement) a few extra points. Vivox chat - open "task manager" and locate vivox and "end task" , (providing you dont want to hear people ingame, this app sucks the life out of your memory) ingame disable vsync and go to low or medium graphics, up the options 1 by 1 until your fps become unstable. (i would expect 40fps on your 745 if lucky) another option is to run the game in a "window mode" instead of "full screen" or "window full screen", for example running it at 1280x720 is 720hd, can still be intensive, depending on your screen just down size the res by 10 or 20 pixels. your hardware looks good other then Gpu, i would personally have the OS on an ssd and the 1tb as a games drive, especially for APBR. currently the 960 / 970 or 1060 are coming down in price, and currently you can pick up a sandisk ultra2 or Samsung evo 240gb for under 90£ (in the uk) . Hope that helps dude. all the best Drayke