DouglasFalcon

Imagine any weapon with preset IR3, especially CSG/TAS20 Stock. Everyone will be outshooting you with EVERY shotgun without this mod just because of its fire rate. You won't be happy, will you? Yes, some people (including myself) have most of weapons in their locker and they'll just be using the ones without IR but how about someone who was saving $ for a CSG PR1/Tas20 Stock and bought it finally? This is what I am trying to explain. So if I spent a lot of money just to get HVR and finally have quickswitch, do I deserve a refund or what? Your argument just doesn't make sense, and you're complaining about something that's still in stage 1 testing. Just calm down and try to provide actual feedback by playing OTW

Thank you for the clarification! Testing IR3 is kinda hard right now because, aside from a few exceptions, the majority of players don't have any mod to slap on open slotted weapons. This means that we can only test the new IR3 on pre-slotted weapons (LCR PR2, Joker TAS, ATAC Patroller), but there are a lot of other weapons that use IR3 like Obir or Obeya CR762 that we can't really test Having access to every mod would be appreciated tbh, it helps A LOT to understand a weapon's potential issues imo.

This is exactly the issue IR3 has tho. it's meant to make weapons do better at range but it makes them less accurate while shooting. The IR3 negates the whole "if you wanna be accurate you gotta shoot slower" thing and just forces you to shoot slower, and this happens to fix some of the issues at CQC distances. Again maybe 21% is too big of a reduction but the concept is very interesting

BIG UPDATE: Apparently, the twisted IR3 was intended to only be applied on shotguns (as you can read here: https://imgur.com/a/1Zq9rxd ), so I'm not sure that other weapons will have anything changed. I still think that an universal IR3 change may be interesting, but we'll see in the future. Also: no differenced between Baylan C and D as far as IR3 is concerned.

Fair enough. Any idea what's been changed for C and D test district? Haven't played in D yet, logging now. If there are any differences I'll post them here You're right, but I think it's a good start. Shotguns were broken AF in Baylan A and B but now they're much better, so if IR gets the same treatment we may come to a good result

It's saddening that we live in a society

Unfortunately testing IR3 on weapons is kinda hard right now, since we don't have the mod to slap on open slotted weapons and see how they perform. Again I think we need as much testing as possible so please go play OTW :)

So apparently Baylan C has a twisted IR that lowers the weapon's fire rate, leaving bloom untouched. I only know the stats of IR3, and these are: +7 M effective range (same as Live) -21% fire rate At first I was like "why tf did they do that?" but as I was using some IR3 weapons I've started to realize that maybe this idea is decent, as a decreased fire rate balances the weapon at closer ranger, nerfing its capabilities and therefore "pushing" its effective range a couple metres forward. Let's take an example: NTEC, one of the premiere IR3 abusers in the game. With a lowered fire rate, NTEC's abilities in CQC are drastically reduced, no longer being able to spray and pray to possibly cheese the opponent, but at the same time the lighter bloom will help it being more accurate at longer ranges. Of course, as with any testing stages, there are still some major flaws. One of them is definetely how this new IR3 destroys weapons like LCR PR2, which now is completely unusable. Shredder PR3 also becomes pretty bad, and so do some other shotguns like Joker TAS. Also, maybe a 21% is a bit too harsh and should be a bit lower. Again, we need further testing in order to understand. All in all I think this idea can potentially fix a lot of issues if done well, what do you guys think of this? (I recommend to go on OTW and test it yourself)

I mean if the OTW IR3 makes it to Live, LCR PR2 is gonna be really bad, even worse than now. Besides, I think everybody should be allowed to buy and use whatever weapon they want, regardless of how they perform in the current metagame. There are a lot of low tier heroes around playing bad weapons and still getting good results with them tbh

What are the nerfs for these weapons?

If there are better purple mods then why should we nerf 3PS3? :Thinkong:

dude stop making up things NTEC is stronger than any other AR, period.

tfw you used your premium code yesterday and now this happens

The fun part about this kind of people is that 80% of the time they carry percs, HVR and can't use their secondary for shit yet whenever they die (usually because they throw a perc at their feet) they start harassing you in /w saying you're a noob Also they're ALWAYS recording and are ready to send their videos to LO so you get banned LMAOOO

Y'all saying there are still people cheating in APB.. git gud

I mean it doesn't literally change anything and your screenshot just proves that.

How old are you? ) technically, you can only play with my clan and be a gold - is this NORMAL ? I think the only thing that's not normal here is you. There are forum moderators here, and if my thread was against rules or we were talking about cheating, the thread would have been already locked and/or someone would have warned me that this is considered cheating. I don't really care if you're jealous about my Nano or you just have to be annoying on the forums, please stop bothering everyone in this thread and go being toxic somewhere else

Technically it's not an abuse tho. It's not written anywhere that you can't get helped by your friends in order to unlock the Nano, and the kill streak counter doesn't even reset inbetween mission. Moreover this "abuse" doesn't ruin the experience to other players, while I can easily think of 2 ways of reaching kill streak 15 in a toxic way: -for 15 missions, take HVR, wait at around 100 metres from objective and try to land a shot on a tagged opponent. After getting the kill run as far away as possible. Your team will play with one less member, but yeah who cares at least I'm not a fraud right? -dethreat until you get silver/bronze, go into a lower level district and farm the shit out of them. You'll ruin the fun for inexperienced opponents, possibly even harming the game itself if your opponent quits the game forever, but HEY you're not a fraud doing so Also, you can do both things toghether and be even more toxic. But yeah, going into a empty district and play 1v1 against your friend is definetely an "abuse" that only "frauds" do. Whatever man.

Yo what's the matter?

I've been able to unlock permanent Nano due to a couple of friends that helped me out! Thanks for all your suggestions, we decided to play open conflict and it only took 2 missions to do the kills There's a very low chance for the activity to be available every day. It can only happen if you have a max rank character, and only contacts of level 15 or 20 will give you this kind of activities I've been waiting for this activity for more than 2 years now so sit back and be patient lol

Thanks to both of you, I didn't think about this cause I don't have a lot of friends here.. I'll try to get helped

I got Oca Nano Chrome daily activity today! I have to get a kill streak of 15, but I fucking suck at this game lmao Is there some way to make it easier to get? I've noticed that the streak counter doesn't reset between missions, so I can possibly abuse that? Help pls

DMR-SD is probably one of the most fun weapons around. you can slap literally ANY mod in it and it still does well (I'm currently using HS3, Mag Pull 3 and Tagger; but you can also use CJ2, 3PS3 and even Mob Sling and HB3) The 2shot range is the icing on the cake, but what I really love about the weapon is the stun chance against CA3 users that can help you clutch some battles. On a side note I also use DMR AV and that weapon is borderline broken, if they ever release a 3 open slot version on ARMAS expect to see its usage skyrocket

I love to see that Mods actually saw this thread! Makes me happy (NERF OCAs BTW) Btw after a bunch of replies I can tell that the community likes: -meta weapons (NTEC, OSCAR, Carbine) mostly because they're hella good at what they do -DMR AV because of its sound (and I definetely agree, I started using DMR for the same reason and ended up maining it) -other goofy looking/sounding weapons like Anubis, FFA, Strife, even tho most of them are pretty niche or outright unviable This is something I love about this game: weapon choice is just so wide and diverse, and there are so many different reasons to pick up a weapon

Why no Improved Rifling 3? ;)