Saxtus 497 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) When people with extremely competent hardware, still use Advanced Launcher to turn off the aspects of the game that annoy them (and they don't afraid to admit it), I believe that it's not too much different than using other aiding software (to put it nicely). So, welcome new engine, goodbye Advanced Launcher. Edited March 4, 2019 by Saxtus 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, Saxtus said: When people with extremely competent hardware, still use Advanced Launcher to turn off the aspects of the game that annoy them (and they don't afraid to admit it), I believe that it's not too much different than using other aiding software (to put it nicely). So, welcome new engine, goodbye Advanced Launcher. What do you think they are turning off? Cuz it sounds like you don't actually understand how the advanced launcher works, or what it is capable of doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted March 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, Saxtus said: When people with extremely competent hardware, still use Advanced Launcher to turn off the aspects of the game that annoy them (and they don't afraid to admit it), I believe that it's not too much different than using other aiding software (to put it nicely). So, welcome new engine, goodbye Advanced Launcher. mattscott has stated that eventually he wants most of the functionality of the advanced launcher to be in the ingame options, so it’s not like much will change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teawing 1 Posted March 4, 2019 Wouldn't LO ban the advanced launcher/configs then if they were meant for giving advantages/same tier as auto aim/wall hacks etc? Jw. I don't know if they went into detail about why they decided to let them through. That being said, I do have to agree with Cookie, i don't have the best rig but it's not a potato and even then I have to use Advanced Launcher for the game to run with somewhat stable frames. So many people here complain about their rigs being more than capable for the issues they're experiencing. How is that related to them using AL to get rid of "annoying" things and causing advantage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted March 4, 2019 Twitch streamers that use Advanced Launcher, even having very good hardware, admitted publicly that they do it to give them an edge against their opponents, like (but not limited to): - Easier distinguishable enemies with less clutter for the eye to track - Smooth framerate when near explosions or other difficult for the current engine situations - Seeing when there is smoke for others 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Saxtus said: Twitch streamers that use Advanced Launcher, even having very good hardware, admitted publicly that they do it to give them an edge against their opponents, like (but not limited to): - Easier distinguishable enemies with less clutter for the eye to track - Smooth framerate when near explosions or other difficult for the current engine situations - Seeing when there is smoke for others That's quite vague, but it seems that you, like so many of the anti-advanced launcher crowd seem to not be able to distinguish what is possible with the advanced launcher vs what is possible through custom configs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted March 5, 2019 14 hours ago, CookiePuss said: That's quite vague, but it seems that you, like so many of the anti-advanced launcher crowd seem to not be able to distinguish what is possible with the advanced launcher vs what is possible through custom configs. I am just relaying what Advanced Launcher users are admitting publicly when I asked them on their Twitch chat. My opinion on what Advanced Launcher can do is irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshi 436 Posted March 8, 2019 So any time soon those NDA's can be lifted a bit, for the testers to share some stuffs with us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synapze777 25 Posted March 9, 2019 +1 Keshi. Would be nice to have a show on Kemps stream with Matt again or something similar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TzickyT 212 Posted March 11, 2019 fun to see everything is getting worked on and things are going in this direction. also i hope climbing down stairs wil not be a hassle as they were in this game at this moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NubbyNub 1 Posted March 11, 2019 Looking forward to seeing the Engine Upgrade soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEASTASBTCH 8 Posted March 12, 2019 main post edited or i need to shift threw 10 pages of more lies to find updates? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romique 6 Posted March 13, 2019 guys they even cant merge necrova - and how long uv been waitng for the new engine?) i want to see that but - meh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted March 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Romique said: guys they even cant merge necrova There is another thread that has detailed posts about the reason about that. It has nothing to do with the new engine upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Too_many_snowflakes 80 Posted March 16, 2019 Awesome to hear that progress is still coming along. I have no doubt that the finished product will be worth the wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted March 21, 2019 About the advanced launcher thing.. Saxtus isn't wrong. People use it solely for the FPS boost and for having an easier time finding and tracking enemies. Some players also go that far to remove all environment/ambient noises so they can hear footsteps, which almost cannot be heard by players that have these sounds on. As small as the advantage of doing this is, it's still an advantage people like to exploit. I personally wouldn't like it if these clay texture graphics become an actual ingame setting. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 21, 2019 7 hours ago, GhosT said: About the advanced launcher thing.. Saxtus isn't wrong. People use it solely for the FPS boost and for having an easier time finding and tracking enemies. Some players also go that far to remove all environment/ambient noises so they can hear footsteps, which almost cannot be heard by players that have these sounds on. As small as the advantage of doing this is, it's still an advantage people like to exploit. I personally wouldn't like it if these clay texture graphics become an actual ingame setting. You cannot move world ambient noise using the Advanced Launcher. It's like no one with strong opinions on the Advanced Launcher actually knows anything about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted March 21, 2019 I don't think you should connect the first line with the second. On the second line he just explain what people do, not that they do it using Advanced Launcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CookiePuss said: You cannot move world ambient noise using the Advanced Launcher. It's like no one with strong opinions on the Advanced Launcher actually knows anything about it. Yeah, wasn't precisely talking about the advanced launcher regarding that. You can do anything the advanced launcher does by opening a couple files and editing them by yourself, the launcher just helps you, and you can do a lot more than what the launcher offers you, some things could be called cheating like removing animations so people don't crouch and can be seen behind cover, they stick out of corners, explosions not rendering, getting rid of environment sounds, etc. Edited March 21, 2019 by GhosT more things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, GhosT said: Yeah, wasn't precisely talking about the advanced launcher regarding that. You can do anything the advanced launcher does by opening a couple files and editing them by yourself, the launcher just helps you. And its ok'd for use because it also limits you from doing things that LO doesn't approve, like ambient sound removal, muzzle flash removal, etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: And its ok'd for use because it also limits you from doing things that LO doesn't approve, like ambient sound removal, muzzle flash removal, etc etc As far as I know the last statement we had only forbid muzzle flash removal, and everything else was ok to be abused. Sure, the advanced launcher "limits" you from doing certain things, but there's barely any file check in the game and people can do what they want by manually editing and deleting things. Edited March 21, 2019 by GhosT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, GhosT said: As far as I know the last statement we had only forbid muzzle flash removal, and everything else was ok to be abused. Sure, the advanced launcher "limits" you from doing certain things, but there's barely any file check in the game and people can do what they want by manually editing and deleting things. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the advanced launcher itself. Maybe we'll get lucky with 3.5 and stuff will be encrypted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the advanced launcher itself. Maybe we'll get lucky with 3.5 and stuff will be encrypted. Yeah, again, I was pretty much confirming what saxtus said about the advanced launcher, and then mentioned other common things people do to get advantages. Someone that knows his way around game files doesn't even need the launcher, and considering there's no file check, people can just do whatever they want. And that's bad. Edited March 21, 2019 by GhosT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, GhosT said: Yeah, again, I was pretty much confirming what saxtus said about the advanced launcher, and then mentioned other common things people do to get advantages. Someone that knows his way around game files doesn't even need the launcher, and considering there's no file check, people can just do whatever they want. And that's bad. Yes, people breaking the rules is bad. People using the advanced launcher is not. Im not really sure why its even up for debate. This was decided months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted March 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Maybe we'll get lucky with 3.5 and stuff will be encrypted. Let's hope for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites