Puffdragon 131 Posted September 17, 2018 nssw is my baby and they broke it. I would like it buffed. The killer-bee lmgs are kind of poopy too, I don't like how the recoil is setup to pull left or right depending on which one you buy, just seems odd and annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genobee 143 Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Puffdragon said: The killer-bee lmgs are kind of poopy too, I don't like how the recoil is setup to pull left or right depending on which one you buy, just seems odd and annoying. They always struck me as a worse ALIG. Heavy recoil with worse damage all-around. Nothing like a .8s TTK on a gun that throws your aim off your target constantly. Tried to find a use for them but they just aren't really worth the effort. Not unless they get some kind of tweak I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puffdragon 131 Posted September 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, Genobee said: They always struck me as a worse ALIG. Heavy recoil with worse damage all-around. Nothing like a .8s TTK on a gun that throws your aim off your target constantly. Tried to find a use for them but they just aren't really worth the effort. Not unless they get some kind of tweak I think. Agreed, I bought the killer bee just for fun but it's really awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketog 1031 Posted September 17, 2018 Other than the rabid , i don't think LMG's should be touched in the slightest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kewlin 692 Posted September 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Ketog said: Other than the rabid , i don't think LMG's should be touched in the slightest. The Rabid is one of my favorite assault rifles LMGs though, please don't touch it. (No, but seriously, don't touch the Rabid, it's already fantastic.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil 55 Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) They don't need a buff. I'm serious, we have several players who main LMGs and they are insane, and always have been. Most people just don't have the brainpower to properly utilize their surroundings with them and while as mean as that sounds, it's' quite true. 12 hours ago, Puffdragon said: 13 hours ago, Genobee said: They always struck me as a worse ALIG. Heavy recoil with worse damage all-around. Nothing like a .8s TTK on a gun that throws your aim off your target constantly. Tried to find a use for them but they just aren't really worth the effort. Not unless they get some kind of tweak I think. Agreed, I bought the killer bee just for fun but it's really awful. Try facing Wish/Isley on NA. He pretty much exclusively uses the SWARM and easily outfrags most of the best players in the game with it most of the time. Edited September 18, 2018 by Virgil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted September 18, 2018 14 hours ago, Puffdragon said: The killer-bee lmgs are kind of poopy too, I don't like how the recoil is setup to pull left or right depending on which one you buy, just seems odd and annoying. 14 hours ago, Genobee said: They always struck me as a worse ALIG. Heavy recoil with worse damage all-around. Nothing like a .8s TTK on a gun that throws your aim off your target constantly. Tried to find a use for them but they just aren't really worth the effort. Not unless they get some kind of tweak I think. I actually like weapons with unique quirks like that, makes them special little snow flakes, although it also makes them completely undesirable if that quirk makes them suck worth than the F2P weapons. But is getting rid of the sideways recoil the only option? What would make the bees good but still quirky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted September 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Virgil said: Try facing Wish/Isley on NA. He pretty much exclusively uses the SWARM and easily outfrags most of the best players in the game with it most of the time. ^this^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil 55 Posted September 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, KnifuWaifu said: I actually like weapons with unique quirks like that, makes them special little snow flakes, although it also makes them completely undesirable if that quirk makes them suck worth than the F2P weapons. But is getting rid of the sideways recoil the only option? What would make the bees good but still quirky? The gun is already good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted September 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: The gun is already good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Szambi 85 Posted September 18, 2018 I just wanted to point out that SWARM DID get a buff recently and it performs much better than it used to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strikes 6 Posted September 18, 2018 I've actually been using the un-moddable Case "Bolo" ALIG reskin a lot lately, and without even switching off it despite desperate situational needs I've actually been maintaining really well with it, I've arguably been doing even better with it than most other guns that I've been using over the past month such as the JG, HVR Scout, Medusa and the STAC. I was actually very concerned about how awful the ALIG were when I tried a three days lease of a ALIG "Surefire", but oh my god after realizing how I needed to adjust my playstyle with the un-modded version, I have been having a lot of fun, and it is when you've got coordinated teammates you've group up with that this thing really shines. There's nothing quite like the team coordination between you and your team while you're being the demolitions expert with an ALIG when you're car surfing mission after mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revoluzzer 274 Posted September 18, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 10:49 AM, Nitronik said: That's the point. The areas and situations in which they excel are a fair bit too limited - effective weapons for sure, but really niche I think many weapons simply do too many things too well nowadays. The original LMGs (SHAW, ALIG) stick to the core design principle of APB weapons: do one thing great, be serviceable at most at everything else. They're a cornerstone of weapon balance and shouldn't be adjusted to the current situation, rather the other way round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 235 Posted September 18, 2018 Euryale needs a nerf. It's too good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269 Posted September 19, 2018 Could we address the more unbalanced classes first, thank you very much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
