Frosi 722 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) So I was messing with a couple of things regarding my config and noticed a new ingame option under "Video > Advanced" called Double Buffering which increases and stabilizes fps heavily for me, I was experiencing a 20 to 30 fps increase while it also felt like stutters were far less heavy and frequent. Also to note is that I haven't seen any official word on this being added to the game. Edited September 10, 2018 by Frosi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted September 10, 2018 it buffers twice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sayori 311 Posted September 10, 2018 I haven't noticed it too but that should be engine-related. Maybe we have got some other engine improvements too but it was never mentioned.http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/double-buffer.html before someone asks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosi 722 Posted September 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: it buffers twice yes!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevkof 806 Posted September 10, 2018 This is from when it was added to OTW, but it wasn't mentioned in patch notes as far as I remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramihyn 14 Posted September 10, 2018 tripple buffering with correct framebuffer synching please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snubnose 639 Posted September 11, 2018 doesn't this cause huge imput delay? I dunno but when I played some CSGO ages ago, I had double / tripple buffering turned on and it had a huge impact on imput lag... turning it off was the only right thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucidy 21 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Snubnose said: doesn't this cause huge imput delay? I dunno but when I played some CSGO ages ago, I had double / tripple buffering turned on and it had a huge impact on imput lag... turning it off was the only right thing to do. When I was testing it out ingame I had no extra input delay from what I could tell On a side note I wanna personally appreciate them for adding this. Edited September 11, 2018 by Lucidy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snubnose 639 Posted September 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, Lucidy said: When I was testing it out ingame I had no extra input delay from what I could tell On a side note I wanna personally appreciate them for adding this. oh I noticed it's turned on by default, so I was playing with it all the time in the past few days... also tested it now... but I don't see any difference in performance or input, so whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosi 722 Posted September 11, 2018 @Androvald could we get an exact explanation on this added option? I'd be really interested to hear if it causes input lag such as triple buffering or v-sync. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted September 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Frosi said: @Androvald could we get an exact explanation on this added option? I'd be really interested to hear if it causes input lag such as triple buffering or v-sync. lmgtfyhttps://forums.anandtech.com/threads/triple-buffering-adds-or-reduces-input-lag.2380763/ there has been arguments about this for years with no clear answer. (about both triple and double buffering) however, the second answer in this thread gives a quite sound response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosi 722 Posted September 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, neophobia said: lmgtfyhttps://forums.anandtech.com/threads/triple-buffering-adds-or-reduces-input-lag.2380763/ there has been arguments about this for years with no clear answer. (about both triple and double buffering) however, the second answer in this thread gives a quite sound response. I did some research myself and read through a few articles such as those that have been linked in your link and the one that has been posted further above in this thread, I'd still like to hear a Developers PoV on this setting as Input lag can differ from game to game. (With V-Sync atleast) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucidy 21 Posted September 11, 2018 I'm not sure about the whole input lag, you'd think logically it would add some because of the nature of what exactly the game is doing, but from my client I don't feel any sort of extra input lag from Vanilla with an fps boost - therefore I'm just gonna use it now. (Especially considering I use a 144hz monitor when I was getting yikes fps before) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Androvald 145 Posted September 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Frosi said: @Androvald could we get an exact explanation on this added option? I'd be really interested to hear if it causes input lag such as triple buffering or v-sync. Basically, it allows the game to continue working while your graphics card is working on rendering and displaying the image. It should be on by default, and will increase your frame-rate, but the input processing might feel less precise / predictable to those who are sensitive to that kind of thing. 8 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourrandomnobody74 106 Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Androvald said: On 9/11/2018 at 7:21 AM, Frosi said: @Androvald could we get an exact explanation on this added option? I'd be really interested to hear if it causes input lag such as triple buffering or v-sync. Basically, it allows the game to continue working while your graphics card is working on rendering and displaying the image. It should be on by default, and will increase your frame-rate, but the input processing might feel less precise / predictable to those who are sensitive to that kind of thing. Can we get a precise number on how much input lag this option adds? Because if its anything above 15ms, it's definitely something you should mention since its detectable, especially on high refresh rate monitors. And how much of a fps increase are people supposed to see from this option? EDIT: Is Double Buffering OneFrameThreadLag basically? Cause that's always better on off. Edited September 12, 2018 by 悲しい春 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speee 90 Posted September 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, 悲しい春 said: Can we get a precise number on how much input lag this option adds? Because if its anything above 15ms, it's definitely something you should mention since its detectable, especially on high refresh rate monitors. And how much of a fps increase are people supposed to see from this option? On 144hz, I was able to notice a difference. Its probably close to 15ms, if not above. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites