When are we finally going to nerf the Colby .45 AP?

[Ysaline 27]

1 hour ago, LilyRain said:

Thank you for asking genuine questions.

I don't function with opinions, I only care about objective facts. Opinions have no real place where facts are already established.

To name a couple, factually, you should know that FR0G 'Kokoe' PR1 & N-FA 9 "Quickdraw" PR1 are unquestionably far more objectively useful in a serious disgusting-loadout vs standard Colby .45. Those that can't tell why should keep their 'opinions' in their pockets. Both are available PERMANENTLY in the Joker Store for roughly the same price as Colby .45, which a free-2-play player can get by... simply existing.

And the logic of 'Secondaries shouldn't compete with Primaries' is outright nonsensical. Else, let us have N-HVR kill faster than every secondary in the game, just because 'it is a primary weapon'. Like, no, that's just not the way.

 

 

What "investment", 3000 Joker Tickets? lol..

The problem is that the "complaints" about .45 being "OP" are simply... false.

lol like... if the weapon was out of line, we would've spoken about it before you, thanks.

FR0G 'Kokoe' has 12m range, dont know if you realised but thats actually really close. Up to 12m, there are comparable or better options.
N-FA 9 it has 30m range but also 70 dmg and crazy spread, you wont kill anyone pass 10m on one spray. Its s a hug weapon.

Hugging is the only scenario where some secondaries actually beats up some primary weapons but because of the poor range, i never had any problems with it.

'Secondaries shouldn't compete with Primaries' is a true statement, let me tell you why

"let us have N-HVR kill faster than every secondary in the game" - false, not every, but the equal equivalent
Take a deep breath and think about it for a minute. What gun N-HVR compete againts? Closest you can get is Colby RSA and you would never beat N-HVR with RSA unless N-HVR clearly messed up his second shot.

Its not an opinion, its a fact.

as ive stated before, you can keep the .45
buff it even, give it 10 shots, i dont mind, but give it R-2 'Harbinger' treatment. R-2 'Harbinger' which has even bigger dmg, longer range but also its difficult to use.

.45 description: The Colby .45 AP is an old warhorse of a gun - it was the gun that the FBW was based on and, like its younger brother, has great killing potential and is very powerful even to medium ranges. Unlike its sibling it doesn't have any of the modern comforts - it kicks like a mule and the larger caliber necessitates a smaller magazine.


my question is: wheres the "kicks like a mule" feature? In comparson, R-2 'Harbinger' kicks like what?

[koenyboy500 56]

5 hours ago, LilyRain said:

What "investment", 3000 Joker Tickets? lol..

The problem is that the "complaints" about .45 being "OP" are simply... false.

lol like... if the weapon was out of line, we would've spoken about it before you, thanks.

We? Who the fuck is we?

WE are complaining about a weapon and I am starting to think that it is actually the majority of the people here.

So you can crown yourself king with your opinion all you want and call people bad or whatever, but don't call over 50% of the pop people with 'false claims'

 

Don't look up (the movie)- kind of pleb you are.

[EVInezca 83]

Nerf the gun liddle in tkk than we all are fine with that gun. And the .45 player will accept it when the nerf is not to much. Only a liddle!

 

Ti say it clear i dont want destroy that gun. I self use nano chrome they very strong to. But much much harder to get on charakter 

Edited 3 hours ago by EVInezca

[LilyRain 693]

2 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

We? Who the fuck is we?

WE are complaining about a weapon and I am starting to think that it is actually the majority of the people here.

So you can crown yourself king with your opinion all you want and call people bad or whatever, but don't call over 50% of the pop people with 'false claims'

 

Don't look up (the movie)- kind of pleb you are.

You must be talking to yourself because that is literally that.

Speak for yourself. As small as the playerbase is, it is in the hundreds while you and your gang can be counted on one hand, 2 max.

You're done.

[LilyRain 693]

5 hours ago, Ysaline said:

FR0G 'Kokoe' has 12m range, dont know if you realised but thats actually really close. Up to 12m, there are comparable or better options.

You should "realize" that 12m is factually 15m for max effective damage (200 HP per shot), more than enough for that powerhouse.

Learn how to read "Range Damage Dropoff".
 

5 hours ago, Ysaline said:

N-FA 9 it has 30m range but also 70 dmg and crazy spread, you wont kill anyone pass 10m on one spray. Its s a hug weapon.

Hugging is the only scenario where some secondaries actually beats up some primary weapons but because of the poor range, i never had any problems with it.

Sounds perfect. Hug with the secondary, swap to primary for extended range (and factually FASTER ttk than the somehow problematic 0.8s to an extent).

They complement perfectly. No issues here whatsoever.

 

5 hours ago, Ysaline said:

'Secondaries shouldn't compete with Primaries' is a true statement, let me tell you why

"let us have N-HVR kill faster than every secondary in the game" - false, not every, but the equal equivalent
Take a deep breath and think about it for a minute. What gun N-HVR compete againts? Closest you can get is Colby RSA and you would never beat N-HVR with RSA unless N-HVR clearly messed up his second shot.

Its not an opinion, its a fact.

Oh, is that a fact?

RSA kills in 1.6s, N-HVR kills in 1.75s. So no, it is not a fact. RSA does indeed win, every single time.

PLUS, thanks to LO, N-HVR won't deal full damage without actually being in marksmanship aim (right mouse click), because they wanted to kill 'quickswitching'. So even in the extreme crazy close-mid range scenario that shouldn't happen, RSA can still run and gun while N-HVR has to sit like a turret.

RSA only loses to N-HVR if the Player is dumb enough to try and play outside its effective range.

Didn't even have to think about this one.

 

6 hours ago, Ysaline said:

as ive stated before, you can keep the .45
buff it even, give it 10 shots, i dont mind

That is.... the point of the Fr0g...

A stronger .45 WITH 10 shots rather than 7 but with some range cut off... You just proved my point. I literally mentioned the weapon BY NAME and you still didn't get it.

 

6 hours ago, Ysaline said:

but give it R-2 'Harbinger' treatment. R-2 'Harbinger' which has even bigger dmg, longer range but also its difficult to use.

.45 description: The Colby .45 AP is an old warhorse of a gun - it was the gun that the FBW was based on and, like its younger brother, has great killing potential and is very powerful even to medium ranges. Unlike its sibling it doesn't have any of the modern comforts - it kicks like a mule and the larger caliber necessitates a smaller magazine.


my question is: wheres the "kicks like a mule" feature? In comparson, R-2 'Harbinger' kicks like what?

I fear people will complain that it is harder to use while .45 is as basic as FBW.

The reason why people want .45 nerfed is because both the Veterans and Cheaters have taken a liking to it. That 'difficulty' is nothing to Cheaters. They can cancel out all forms of compensation and simply automate maximum lethality.

And weapon descriptions mean nothing. Especially in the case of N-HVR, they didn't even update that one.