vsb 6170 Posted September 7 6 hours ago, Y2Venom said: no no no no. Bronze servers where thriving and people played the game like it was supposed to be played. The games were fun and unpredictable. Teams were fair, car chases and explosions. Ramming and running over players. Cars flying through the air. Percs and grenade spamming. Yes there were dethreaters, but people were losing on purpose because the bronze servers were so much more fun. Gold servers were first to die. Why ? because they were boring AF .... peek shoot, peek shoot, peek shoot, peek shoot Get The Item, peek shoot peek shoot, peek shoot, peek shoot. Drive to the next spot, peek shoot peek shoot peek shoot, peek shoot. Defend The Door, peek shoot peek shoot peek shoot. Kill The Other Team, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot, Peek Shoot. Those barriers were removied and within months the population declined to its lowest ever. bro was smurfing in the bronze district clubbing seals lmao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y2Venom 219 Posted September 8 On 9/7/2024 at 4:59 AM, vsb said: bro was smurfing in the bronze district clubbing seals lmao no , some people like a mosh pit, some people like ping pong. Gold Servers were just ping pong . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjarrrr 248 Posted September 10 oh look at that the majority voted to nerf the 45 ap.... good thing that LO never listens to their playerbase so the minority vote will just win as always Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 425 Posted September 10 why nerf it, its worthless anyway. most all guns are worthless for legits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted September 10 2 hours ago, ninjarrrr said: oh look at that the majority voted to nerf the 45 ap.... good thing that LO never listens to their playerbase so the minority vote will just win as always the majority being a whopping 44 people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjarrrr 248 Posted September 11 9 hours ago, CookiePuss said: the majority being a whopping 44 people whenever theres a weapon change, its usually the decision of the 4 or so SPCTs that gave their opinion anyway, so 44 must be massive to LO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qualeta 13 Posted September 11 Are people still crying over this pistol? Yes it is strong, yes it has more range than the other pistols but you completely ignore the fact that you need 5/7 bullets and that sometimes the crosshair get massive swells more than the others. There are good alternatives to the pistol such as "FBW" which requires 6/15 bullets to kill which means more chances to kill despite the misses, "Kokoe" from close range 5/10 bullets which allows you to kill 2 people in one magazine. Tip: confuse your enemy with good movement (behind some wall and quick peek with the body) so that he misses 2 bullets and then rush him and hope that he will miss at least one more bullet and he will reloading in front of your face which will give you an advantage of a few seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berkshire 38 Posted September 11 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Qualeta said: Are people still crying over this pistol? Yes it is strong, yes it has more range than the other pistols but you completely ignore the fact that you need 5/7 bullets and that sometimes the crosshair get massive swells more than the others. There are good alternatives to the pistol such as "FBW" which requires 6/15 bullets to kill which means more chances to kill despite the misses, "Kokoe" from close range 5/10 bullets which allows you to kill 2 people in one magazine. Tip: confuse your enemy with good movement (behind some wall and quick peek with the body) so that he misses 2 bullets and then rush him and hope that he will miss at least one more bullet and he will reloading in front of your face which will give you an advantage of a few seconds. Bla bla bla…. I already do things like this to out smart an AP.45 user. But that doesn’t mean I’ll ignore the fact the AP.45 is dominate against most primary’s and secondaries. Change needs to happen with this weapon even if it’s something minor like changing the effective range or fire rate. Edited September 11 by Berkshire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qualeta 13 Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Bla bla bla…. I already do things like this to out smart an AP.45 user. But that doesn’t mean I’ll ignore the fact the AP.45 is dominate against most primary’s and secondaries. Change needs to happen with this weapon even if it’s something small like changing the effective range on it or fire rate. nah AP is fine, if you will nerf it nobody will use it anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berkshire 38 Posted September 11 20 minutes ago, Qualeta said: nah AP is fine, if you will nerf it nobody will use it anymore So you’re ok with the rest of the 90% of secondaries not getting used because of the AP? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qualeta 13 Posted September 11 48 minutes ago, Berkshire said: So you’re ok with the rest of the 90% of secondaries not getting used because of the AP? yes.. and is around 50% not 90%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Berkshire said: So you’re ok with the rest of the 90% of secondaries not getting used because of the AP? nerfing the 45 isn’t going to make people use other secondaries, everyone will just switch to fbw the useless secondaries need a buff to be used, not a 45 nerf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y2Venom 219 Posted September 11 3 hours ago, vsb said: nerfing the 45 isn’t going to make people use other secondaries, everyone will just switch to fbw the useless secondaries need a buff to be used, not a 45 nerf Simple fact is, this gun became popular over night after a certain cheat was released and continues to be so. It is now "normal" to use this cheat as players have been using it for years. If this gun does get a nerf, suddenly the Frog will be the most popular gun for the exact same reason. But the game is completely unbalanced with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted September 11 3 hours ago, Y2Venom said: Simple fact is, this gun became popular over night after a certain cheat was released and continues to be so. It is now "normal" to use this cheat as players have been using it for years. If this gun does get a nerf, suddenly the Frog will be the most popular gun for the exact same reason. But the game is completely unbalanced with it. it’s popular because it’s effective just like the fbw is effective, just like the frog is effective, and just like all the other secondaries should be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 706 Posted September 11 6 hours ago, Y2Venom said: Simple fact is, this gun became popular over night after a certain cheat was released and continues to be so. It is now "normal" to use this cheat as players have been using it for years. If this gun does get a nerf, suddenly the Frog will be the most popular gun for the exact same reason. But the game is completely unbalanced with it. Explain how a cheat can make the .45 better without also making every other secondary better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y2Venom 219 Posted September 11 21 hours ago, vsb said: it’s popular because it’s effective just like the fbw is effective, just like the frog is effective, and just like all the other secondaries should be Like the Obir, it wasnt popular for a very long time, hardly anybody used it, then suddenly out of the blue it became popular.... Merged. 17 hours ago, BlatMan said: Explain how a cheat can make the .45 better without also making every other secondary better. same reason in game mods are better in some weapons then others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted September 12 51 minutes ago, Y2Venom said: Like the Obir, it wasnt popular for a very long time, hardly anybody used it, then suddenly out of the blue it became popular.... the obir wasn’t meta because the obeya was insanely strong for so long, as soon as it got nerfed people started switching to the next best option i have no idea which cheat you’re specifically referring to, but i’m certain there’s no cheat that only works for the obir and 45 lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColorBauss 74 Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Y2Venom said: Like the Obir, it wasnt popular for a very long time, hardly anybody used it, then suddenly out of the blue it became popular.... .45 has been popular for a long time, I've used it since 2018 at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 706 Posted September 12 2 hours ago, Y2Venom said: same reason in game mods are better in some weapons then others. Weapon mods change the weapon stats. Cheats don't. You need to explain in more detail because I have no idea what you're referring to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexerin 1140 Posted September 12 2 hours ago, vsb said: the obir wasn’t meta because the obeya was insanely strong for so long, as soon as it got nerfed people started switching to the next best option CR762 got nerfed and OBIR got buffed, along with the rise in people abusing the Kevlar / Med Spray combo when consumables became more easily accessible. These things combined are what caused the meta shift, it wasn't just the CR762 nerf on its own. Giving the 45AP a slight nerf won't cause a meta shift on its own, but it will allow other secondaries to be viable choices since you'd no longer be gimping yourself by not choosing the secondary that is actually just a primary. 2 hours ago, vsb said: i have no idea which cheat you’re specifically referring to, but i’m certain there’s no cheat that only works for the obir and 45 lol Also, you're being willfully obtuse about this. We both know you know exactly what's being talked about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Hexerin said: CR762 got nerfed and OBIR got buffed, along with the rise in people abusing the Kevlar / Med Spray combo when consumables became more easily accessible. These things combined are what caused the meta shift, it wasn't just the CR762 nerf on its own. Giving the 45AP a slight nerf won't cause a meta shift on its own, but it will allow other secondaries to be viable choices since you'd no longer be gimping yourself by not choosing the secondary that is actually just a primary. there’s 3 viable secondaries, if you “slightly” nerf the 45 then there’s still 3 viable secondaries and there was no point in making any changes in the first place 1 hour ago, Hexerin said: Also, you're being willfully obtuse about this. We both know you know exactly what's being talked about. bros talking like triggerbotters discovered semi-automatic weapons in 2020 and cheaters using a gun means it should be nerfed, i want him to realize how dumb his opinions sound Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsyChoVSkiii 4 Posted September 12 It doesn't need any nerf then it will be just a useless gun , just rework other secondaries and make them a bit more useful . Let's talk about HVR and shotgun that need a bit of buff back and other secondaries and not the AP. Then with which secondary should we play ?? no no no no 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersan6 19 Posted September 12 2 hours ago, PsyChoVSkiii said: It doesn't need any nerf then it will be just a useless gun , just rework other secondaries and make them a bit more useful . Let's talk about HVR and shotgun that need a bit of buff back and other secondaries and not the AP. Then with which secondary should we play ?? no no no no Any other that required skill to be good with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berkshire 38 Posted September 15 Bump - I will not let this forum post disappear until this AP issue is resolved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 425 Posted September 15 2 hours ago, Berkshire said: AP issue is resolved They did nerf the .45, so resolved, last couple few days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites