APB Rating

[Keshi 436]

So yesterday i found out that the forums is PG13. When did this happen? How? Why? 

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

It has always been like that due to the forums being a public facing portion of gamersfirst rather than the game in particular.

[Keshi 436]

2 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

It has always been like that due to the forums being a public facing portion of gamersfirst rather than the game in particular.

hm...well if that's so then i can just say that LO is taking the rules serious?
Because i am 100% sure for years i have seen nudity over forums time after time before LO took over

[Kiida 455]

Who gives a shit about forum ratings tbh

[vsb 6171]

19 minutes ago, Keshi said:

hm...well if that's so then i can just say that LO is taking the rules serious?
Because i am 100% sure for years i have seen nudity over forums time after time before LO took over

g1 used take action as well, they were just as bad at it as they were with everything else 

[Nymphi--DoubleDee 83]

22 minutes ago, Keshi said:

hm...well if that's so then i can just say that LO is taking the rules serious?
Because i am 100% sure for years i have seen nudity over forums time after time before LO took over

Not really. While there might be risque images, there was never nudity. Many posts, and many people have been banned over such. Hence why there was the profanity filter. Still miss that shit.

[Letter 25]

APB chat and naive decals with feminine features won't make any difference for those 13yo "kids" who have already seen all the hardcore porn in the internet.

[Fennel 62]

5 minutes ago, Letter said:

APB chat and naive decals with feminine features won't make any difference for those 13yo "kids" who have already seen all the hardcore porn in the internet.

while you have a point, thats not the point.

[mtz 496]

There are multiple issues with this topic and a simple poll on a forum does not properly grasp the subject at hand. Allow me to explain:

 

1) Age rating varies depending on country.

Different countries rate media products in a different manner. Very often there are various backgrounds as to why a video game or any other piece of media receives a specific rating in one country and a different rating in the other. Australian government decided to ban Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number altogether, while pretty much all other countries can play the game. (The HM2 ban itself is a rather absurd situation and I'd much rather just mention it and move on.) You can't just assign a universal content rating that applies everywhere. That doesn't work. Never did and never will.

 

2) Content classifying organizations don't classify online components.

Ever noticed that one part of game boxes (if you still remember the plastic cases that game discs came in >:) ) close to the age rating box? In case of ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) ratings, it usually says something like "Online content not classified by ESRB". You know why? It's because you simply cannot foresee what will happen in multiplayer. These are live players in a non-laboratory environment let loose on the game servers, with an open mind and a downright scary imagination. And unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your outlook), APB Reloaded is exclusively a multiplayer game. You may run into trainee clothed newcomers, while a veteran friend of yours might run into missions against female characters in B-movie stripper outfits, and yet another friend of yours may get threats sent to them through whispers for some reason (though I hope it never happens to you). Everyone's experience will be different. You can never tell.

 

3) Age restriction enforcement is... wonky.

Perhaps the greatest issue: how do you even enforce the rating? Sure, some countries restrict the sale of games depending on their rating compared to the age of the client trying to buy them - but that is not the case everywhere. The Wikipedia page for Video game content rating system lists the legal situation in different countries. For example, some countries in Europe use PEGI (Pan European Game Information) ratings as law, while others use it as a suggestion of whom the game is intended for.

 

4) It's impossible to control every player on their age.

There's also the fact that you cannot control every single player's age, since you pretty much can't have an age check system that doesn't infringe on the user's right to privacy. Free-to-play games struggle with that issue more than their paid equivalents. There is a cubic fuckton of underage people (we're talking <18, which is the most common definition of maturity) who will play free games, even if just for the sheer fact that they didn't have to ask their mom/dad for cash to buy "yet another of those video james". Plus, content ratings for F2P games are often skimmed over or ignored altogether (hands up, who can remember Team Fortress 2's ESRB age classification without looking it up?), so there's pretty much no point in assigning one such rating to APB Reloaded.

 

So yeah. That's a no from me. I'm not going to vote in the poll because my opinion about assigning APB isn't any of those provided.

Edited July 9, 2018 by MartinPL

[SelttikS 224]

2 hours ago, Keshi said:

hm...well if that's so then i can just say that LO is taking the rules serious?
Because i am 100% sure for years i have seen nudity over forums time after time before LO took over

Before LO took over you would have been banned for something like this, i mean for real how dare you speak out against any decision G1 makes.

We really do NOT want to use the pre LO g1 as a guide for how we want to do anything.... ever.

 

 

Also the poll is stupid because it just asks if APB should be pg13. Which is a fucking no. Forums are not apb.

Edited July 9, 2018 by SelttikS

[Triksterism 137]

1 hour ago, Ignas / qsn said:

Are kids actually aware that forum exists?

Do kids even use forums these days? I'm 32 and everyone seems to just use social media instead of forums these days. (I have fond, dorky memories of being part of many different forums when I was growing up).

[Keshi 436]

2 hours ago, Ignas / qsn said:

Are kids actually aware that forum exists?

Bet there are kids with nudity symbols spraying in financial right now that never visit the forums...

1 hour ago, MartinPL said:

There are multiple issues with this topic and a simple poll on a forum does not properly grasp the subject at hand. Allow me to explain:

 

1) Age rating varies depending on country.

Different countries rate media products in a different manner. Very often there are various backgrounds as to why a video game or any other piece of media receives a specific rating in one country and a different rating in the other. Australian government decided to ban Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number altogether, while pretty much all other countries can play the game. (The HM2 ban itself is a rather absurd situation and I'd much rather just mention it and move on.) You can't just assign a universal content rating that applies everywhere. That doesn't work. Never did and never will.

 

2) Content classifying organizations don't classify online components.

Ever noticed that one part of game boxes (if you still remember the plastic cases that game discs came in >:) ) close to the age rating box? In case of ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) ratings, it usually says something like "Online content not classified by ESRB". You know why? It's because you simply cannot foresee what will happen in multiplayer. These are live players in a non-laboratory environment let loose on the game servers, with an open mind and a downright scary imagination. And unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your outlook), APB Reloaded is exclusively a multiplayer game. You may run into trainee clothed newcomers, while a veteran friend of yours might run into missions against female characters in B-movie stripper outfits, and yet another friend of yours may get threats sent to them through whispers for some reason (though I hope it never happens to you). Everyone's experience will be different. You can never tell.

 

3) Age restriction enforcement is... wonky.

Perhaps the greatest issue: how do you even enforce the rating? Sure, some countries restrict the sale of games depending on their rating compared to the age of the client trying to buy them - but that is not the case everywhere. The Wikipedia page for Video game content rating system lists the legal situation in different countries. For example, some countries in Europe use PEGI (Pan European Game Information) ratings as law, while others use it as a suggestion of whom the game is intended for.

 

4) It's impossible to control every player on their age.

There's also the fact that you cannot control every single player's age, since you pretty much can't have an age check system that doesn't infringe on the user's right to privacy. Free-to-play games struggle with that issue more than their paid equivalents. There is a cubic fuckton of underage people (we're talking <18, which is the most common definition of maturity) who will play free games, even if just for the sheer fact that they didn't have to ask their mom/dad for cash to buy "yet another of those video james". Plus, content ratings for F2P games are often skimmed over or ignored altogether (hands up, who can remember Team Fortress 2's ESRB age classification without looking it up?), so there's pretty much no point in assigning one such rating to APB Reloaded.

 

So yeah. That's a no from me. I'm not going to vote in the poll because my opinion about assigning APB isn't any of those provided.

While i do agree with your points, i do wonder how GTA can have almost everything and still be seen and respected as an "adult" game even when u got kids paying it. The only difference is u can get gta v for like 15bucks while APB is free BUT items arnt that cheap on armas.
I am not comparing APB to GTA, i'm just a bit confused that some games can managed to be played almost everywhere in the world with like PG17+ or w.e. his ratings are while APB has a pg13 forums while its fine to have nudity ingame. It'sconfusing. Also i dont know much about the ratings which is why i sound a bit smart and misinformed lol. I do get your points tho

 

55 minutes ago, SelttikS said:

Before LO took over you would have been banned for something like this, i mean for real how dare you speak out against any decision G1 makes.

We really do NOT want to use the pre LO g1 as a guide for how we want to do anything.... ever.

 

 

Also the poll is stupid because it just asks if APB should be pg13. Which is a fucking no. Forums are not apb.

I think most people got banned because of the Tiggs jokes tbh... There were people with nudity profile pictures and never got banned

 

31 minutes ago, Triksterism said:

Do kids even use forums these days? I'm 32 and everyone seems to just use social media instead of forums these days. (I have fond, dorky memories of being part of many different forums when I was growing up).

I mean if they ever played APB is because they saw it featured in a game news and decided to try it out....some say they still don't know that the forums exist..