MACKxBOLAN 431 Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Kevkof said: They literally own all the rights to APB Reloaded, nothing changes for the players in the near future. Ok, I know i can take your word. guess i need to calm down.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakalaki 65 Posted November 19, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 11:38 AM, Hexerin said: That's... literally the point of the PMG. so it's the Point of Shooting a SMG above 40 meters and easily hit anything like it was a laser? with 5 bullets only? I'm sorry, but you're bullshiting! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Kakalaki said: so it's the Point of Shooting a SMG above 40 meters and easily hit anything like it was a laser? with 5 bullets only? I'm sorry, but you're bullshiting! Max damage for the PMG ends at 35m. At 40m even with a stationary target you need to rely on RNG to be able to get a single kill with s full mag. So while you can get some kills at the range you gave, it's not consistent, and it's not going to be min stk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HighSociety 148 Posted November 19, 2019 Imo like others stated there are more SMG(-ish) weapons that need a rework before they touch CAP-40... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoriaDunne 327 Posted November 19, 2019 We need a Minigun. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilleroo 349 Posted November 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, ZoriaDunne said: We need a Minigun. And chopper gunners. Maybe a tactical nuke or two; very urban crime, right? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoriaDunne 327 Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Evagelyne said: And chopper gunners. Maybe a tactical nuke or two; very urban crime, right? Totally, urban crime with civillians taking walks around like nothing is happening, REALISM!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uru! 50 Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, ZoriaDunne said: We need a Minigun. and if animations were a problem, they could just do what they did with the pdw, or what destiny did with the sweet business Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoriaDunne 327 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uru! said: and if animations were a problem, they could just do what they did with the pdw, or what destiny did with the sweet business For a Minigun, I would just tweak a bit the animation player does when carrying a heavy item. (Ammo boxes, PCs, Safes, etc) adjust the hands to the minigun and done. Player can only walk. it has a delay to start shooting, like Ogre, and it overheats if you shoot for too long. Wouldn't be game breaking if player has literally 0 mobility while using Miniguns, easy prey for snipers or any Ntec user, etc. But it would be something to fear at certains areas. And it pissed me off more because the old APB concept had a minigun in it. Edited November 20, 2019 by ZoriaDunne 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted November 20, 2019 14 hours ago, ZoriaDunne said: We need a Minigun. Yes. This. 100%. LO More heavy weapons please. 13 hours ago, Evagelyne said: And chopper gunners. Maybe a tactical nuke or two; very urban crime, right? How about some make-shift Gunships? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilleroo 349 Posted November 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, KnifuWaifu said: How about some make-shift Gunships? Love it. Those pictures creep me out LOL, I'm terrified of heights... my stomach inverts when I fall long distances in video games! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted November 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Evagelyne said: Love it. Those pictures creep me out LOL, I'm terrified of heights... my stomach inverts when I fall long distances in video games! Thanks! Lucky for you the Gunships I'm suggesting (Espacios) mostly stay on the ground but I went ahead and hid those images for you anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakalaki 65 Posted November 20, 2019 19 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Max damage for the PMG ends at 35m. At 40m even with a stationary target you need to rely on RNG to be able to get a single kill with s full mag. So while you can get some kills at the range you gave, it's not consistent, and it's not going to be min stk. that's what APB Database is saying, but it is far away from reality. just check the Oscar for example Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Kakalaki said: that's what APB Database is saying, but it is far away from reality. just check the Oscar for example If you would like, I'd be happy to meet you in game in order to demonstrate the limits of both weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakalaki 65 Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, CookiePuss said: If you would like, I'd be happy to meet you in game in order to demonstrate the limits of both weapons. dood ... apb db says Oscar min dmg range 35m ... same for dropoff range ... thats not even Close to how it is for real Please explain while it is still 4stk above 35m? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kakalaki said: dood ... apb db says Oscar min dmg range 35m ... same for dropoff range ... thats not even Close to how it is for real Please explain while it is still 4stk above 35m? Overdamage. If you land all 8 bullets from 4 bursts, you are doing 1190 damage at 35m. Damage then ramps down from there giving you a small bit of leeway. Edited November 20, 2019 by CookiePuss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SacheM 17 Posted November 20, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 3:42 PM, GhosT said: There's other SMGs that need to be changed, and the CAP40 being perfectly balanced is not one of them. Check out the ACES, Norsemen or the H-9. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakalaki 65 Posted November 21, 2019 17 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Overdamage. If you land all 8 bullets from 4 bursts, you are doing 1190 damage at 35m. Damage then ramps down from there giving you a small bit of leeway. mkay i see - thanks for explaining 14 hours ago, SacheM said: +1 what about the manic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lign 361 Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) On 9/25/2019 at 3:42 PM, GhosT said: There's other SMGs that need to be changed, and the CAP40 being perfectly balanced is not one of them. Check out the ACES, Norsemen or the H-9. Yesterday I found out that I have permanent aces rifle and decided to try it out. God it’s so bad, with that ttk it has a huge downside as horizontal recoil. What’s the point of that weapon when you can take laser gun Atac with 0.7ttk Edited November 21, 2019 by Lign Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lign said: laser gun Atac >laser gun >atac Pick one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackace-RD 35 Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Lign said: aces rifle and decided to try it out. God it’s so bad, with that ttk it has a huge downside To help the ttk,i usually pair it with an fbw or a .45, its kinda fun synergy imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, blackaceRD said: To help the ttk,i usually pair it with an fbw or a .45 I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackace-RD 35 Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, CookiePuss said: I don't get it. i mean, shoot 2-3 bullets with a .45 and switch to ace and finish off, maybe not considered a smart move but i like to play aces rifle like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted November 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: >laser gun >atac Pick one. I pick both cuz it's one of the laser guns of APB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lign 361 Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, GhosT said: I pick both cuz it's one of the laser guns of APB. And it has the fastest ttk among all laser guns. Doesn't make sense to me. You either have slow ttk but insanely good accuracy or you have fast ttk but with the accuracy that you need put effort in to make kills like ntec. Don't get me wrong, ntec is easily controllable and it needs nerf but comparing to atac where you just need to hold lmb for easy kills it requires a bit of skill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
