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More specifically, drawing from the entire region instead of 40 players. I don't think fair matches for everyone is even possible with only 40 to choose from. Once the game has proper instancing I'll be dancing. I just mean as a temporary way to stop them as LO does it's thang. But yeah, it would be really bad over time, lol.

It's both. Also, they compete in Olympics because it's their passion AND they get paid for it. AKA they are rewarded for working at it. Kind of a weak example. Because most people are decent and honorable human beings. It's the rewards and lack of recognition combined. Their only recognition and reward for aiming so high is a gold threat symbol. If there was some ranked seasonal rewards or, well, anything beyond that? You'd see fewer dethreaters. You can keep calling me blind and wrong, but humans aim to profit from their work and get rewarded for a job well done, à la reaping what you sow. I truly believe that if the game had some kind of prestigious rewards for people who are really good and work hard to be good, you'd see less dethreating all around. You're not wrong, but I don't believe you can eliminate smurfs/dethreaters completely. We have to wait until the engine upgrade for them to try and address the DT plague by implementing mechanics which make it a lot harder to do. In my thread I talk about making it so you can't drop down from a threat once you reach it. Could be a decent band-aid while segregation is still active? I'm not sure.

Because it's not fun when it's a squad of 4 all doing it. Even 2-3 people doing it can be very annoying. I'm saying jump scouting could be fun solo, but when it's used by multiple people the balance of the gun is out of whack and suddenly it's hurting the game and making it not enjoyable for other players. "Rest my case"? Cringe. Merged. Those aren't rewards for striving to be the best you can be. They're working towards those right now as they pulverize new players while we're talkin'. Yes, it is, but you know my stance on the subject as you've read my mentality thread.

Playing the victim?? Lol. Dude I'm saying jump scouting is LAAAAAAAAAAAAME.

My position. My position is being targeted as anti-fun and bad for the game. Maybe reading comprehension is your problem. Ignored? Singled out? By saying what, it's good? That's not even what my argument was about - one side is better or worse... Just forget it.

Or: >EU comes out. >Pop. surges a lot. >People like the new changes LO has made. >Pop. doesn't die cause LO keeps making changes based off amazing feedback from the reinvigorated community. >APB thrives as it was always meant to. I'm a glass half-full kind of person... Sometimes...

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Everyone in the entire world is doing it for a skin. Sigh. I was stating that there's actual rewards you can work towards unlike APB so the pain can be worth it if the satisfaction of winning isn't cutting it in ranked. I'm talking about strictly the competitive side of things here. Normals, ARAMs, those are for fun too. Ranked can be fun, but if the game is kind of a mess balance-wise then there needs to be other incentives for trying to win. There's literally no reason to want to be high gold. Just makes the opp harder and more frustrating for the EXACT same amount of 'rewards' that they get when they dethreat. That is why they dethreat, cause the game doesn't feel rewarding enough to work at it. In the mission districts? Not really. Those require tickets which you only get in a meaningful amount from FC and that caps out really fast. I didn't misread or overlook what he wrote. I'm saying it flat out doesn't matter. He's saying it would make an impact. >.> No, you didn't: I said jump scouting was stupid. Cookie said he doesn't expect it to make a return, but still likes to think about it. Then you said, "Here on the APB forums we're about anti fun everythng, blah blah blah" In what universe is that not directed at me? You're both agreeing and I'm the one disagreeing and you're saying my position is anti-fun. I'm not sure if you're being intentionally dense or just think your super snide and sarcastic comment somehow wasn't applying to what I was saying. It was an entire paragraph dedicated to sniping me and others who hated jump scouting.

That sucks. I'm just getting: "Error Code 9: game may be down for maintenance blah, blah..."

Still not working for me, idk about anyone else.

Uhm, the satisfaction of playing a balanced game against a wide variety of players? Also, you get a ranked skin for doing well at the end of a season and there's objectives with rewards (orbs, skins, etc.) You don't get anything in APB except 3 tickets and a fistful of APB dollars, yet I feel APB is a more fatiguing game to play. Ya, you did. You said it would be a good thing for the game and then talked about dethreating. I said it wouldn't do anything. Wasn't that it was a private convo, it was that you came in and just wrote a snide and facetious comment that could've easily been applied to any of us, not sure why you can't see that.

I love this thread. My signature art is my character in-game with my fave gun (FFA R&D), obviously stylized though. I thought about drawing people's character in a similar way for fun, idk how desirable that would be tho, lol.

They're not doing it to spite you, something probably just came up. World doesn't operate on your timetable, sorry.

Gee, you really scolded those dethreaters into playing in their proper bracket, they'll listen for sure! You quoted my thread and sniped at me, so I'm going to presume you have the common courtesy to have actually read it, in which I explain why you verbally spanking their butts isn't going to solve it. You can't tell them to "man up" and have it happen; the game has no intrinsic value for playing-to-win other than satisfaction, which doesn't mean a whole lot if the cost of victory is a sweatband and a broken keyboard. Removing visible threat is meaningless. It doesn't solve anything. The community is so small and the districts sizes are so limited that I know 90% of the people I play against, their play style, and how good they are. It won't take someone long to figure it out and more importantly, they're still going to hate themselves and the game when they go 0 - 12. They don't care what color of threat the guy or gal has that did it to them, all they know is that APB is garbage and uninstall it. I've gotten a few whispers already from people asking for advice and venting their frustration. Threat colours don't even play into it. The issue wasn't complexity... It was the textual medium itself and you using it to try and convey nasty looking 'sarcasm' about something we were talking about between us out of nowhere. Then basically ranted about how people don't like having to try so hard to win in a PvP game with other players. I don't care if you think I'm exaggerating, it was absolutely annoying - that's my view. I used to solo queue a lot (I have a few max level characters) and premades using scouts obliterated my random teams. Getting tagged as soon as we spawn and them being able to jump around a corner at 60m and do the damage that a scout does with such precision and mobility isn't good for the game. I had my jump scouting phase too, but it was removed for a reason. It was a lot of fun, and I'm glad it's gone.

Hahahahahahahaha... Lol what? Facing 4 people jump scouting was actually not fun and was annoying. I have no idea what else you're blathering about.

This. APB's engine upgrade has taken so damn long it's a joke and point of contention for just about everyone who is familiar with the game. Full speed ahead on that as it has been a prelude of biblical proportions to an absolute mountain of suggested changes and constructive feedback for and by the community. I can't imagine any other change taking precedence over it, if it costs time on its development.

Piss off. Jump scouting can die in a fire, along with HVRs.

That's really lame. I bet they f***ed something up and are too incompetent to figure it out or fix it themselves.

Better this than years of nothing with G1.

Kinda harsh. The changes they've made to ARMAS has been mostly fantastic, better than G1 ever did.

I don't think you should sue. It's not worth it. We can't really help you, but I hope LO sees it and tries to fix it. I'm just thankful you can still play the game at least. How does a trade lock work? Can you send mail? Buy/sell auctions? Is it just the trading between players that's disabled? I've never really asked or had it happen to me.

Fixed. Been this way long time now.

Last few times I tried to play there was no districts except Baylan. I hate Baylan...

I manage to at least 2-burst most people with my FFA all the time, but you need to not be afraid to get your hands dirty. Burst them once or twice and then pull out your FBW and hunt them down. ^^

ATAC sucks tho. :S

idk, I still like the OBIR and I own both.