nazi flag turned backwards on jehrico player not banned

[JudgeAnderson 21]

2 hours ago, Westford said:

Although certain symbols are not allowed, such as Swastika symbols, which really is a no brainer,

Yes I agree a no brainer.

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

4 hours ago, JudgeAnderson said:

1.3 million is the official count I believe so Million not Millions

As stoopid as you are in your binary thoughts on being a neo-nazi at least you're kinda right here.

 

I hate how people liked to conflate the 6 million numbers over and over again when it is mathematically impossible to do that in the timeframe. Not to mention the majority of concentration camps were found by Russians which lied about the discoveries and were not to be trusted, especially after they just helped Germany fuck Poland and the Baltics a bit before.

Edited November 16, 2018 by NotZombieBiscuit

[JudgeAnderson 21]

Even though you cant measure it directly Im sure you could infer the offensiveness of a group of individuals using latent variables. Has been done in the past with happyness, depression and anxiety by turning qualitative to quantitative, could it not be used for hate speach too?

5 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

As stoopid as you are in your binary thoughts on being a neo-nazi

Sry wtf? Try this sentence again.

[wibsey 91]

5 hours ago, Sergsininia said:

Since it seems we're getting on the topic of it: Hate Speech

 

APB Reloaded does not allow hate speech on their servers, forums, or software.

 

Problem: Hate-Speech is subjective.

What offends you won't necessarily offend others. I don't get inflammatory, nor up in pitchforks and torches when I see swastikas, hammer and sickles, or anti-christ symbols.

 

However, my family came from ex-soviet states, and I tend to have fun with communist symbols.

 

Truly defending something is different from ignoring it. Wibsey chooses to ignore others on the internet.

He/She holds a "Sticks and stones my break my bones, but words will never hurt me." mentality pretty close. Is this wrong? No.

Once again, he/she isn't defending the nazi symbol. Quite contrare, the title of the thread clearly describes the inverted symbol...

Have you played violent video games? Do you have an increased tendency to be violent in real life? Yes? Then you're one of very very few. Scientific studies numerous times have shown that violent video games have little to no affect on real people's real world [violent] actions. In fact, much research has shown the opposite.

Actually, it's because in Germany, it is very much illegal to publicly (internet or otherwise) display a swastika.

 

How is his opinion privileged? or how would he not understand?

 

Congratulations! Do what you see fit to benefit the betterment of the game.

 

He didn't but I did...

I'm glad you at least get it, as a British person has has lived in Munich for some time I know full well how sensitive this subject is to many people. And of course in a real day to day situation if I see some pleb freely walking around town with a swastika would vex me as judge Anderson but only in real life...

 

My grandparents was putting out fires and shooting aircrafts from the skies of white Cliffs of Dover, and when I was listening to their stories it truly amazing. it's a shame that EasilyJudgmentleAnderson fails to see when to put energy in giving a fuck and not to, maybe he will get less affected by silly people.

 

But who am I , I'm just a neonazi apparently

[AsgerLund 1271]

10 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Your friends' parents are in their 70's?

How old are you?

...

My parents are in their late 60's, you post-post-millennial.

[Ketog 1032]

What's the point of this thread again ?

 

Has It has been stated that as long as it isn't genitalia  or isn't in intent to offend people it's fine

[Saxtus 497]

1 hour ago, Ketog said:

What's the point of this thread again ?

It's about using the democracy and freedom of speech as an excuse to be insensitive to sensitive people.

[wibsey 91]

38 minutes ago, Saxtus said:

It's about using the democracy and freedom of speech as an excuse to be insensitive to sensitive people.

too many sensitive people around apparently.

[Saxtus 497]

Well he asked what's this thread is about, I delivered. 

[CookiePuss 5378]

5 hours ago, AsgerLund said:

My parents are in their late 60's, you post-post-millennial.

Yeah mine were born in 1955 and 1956 as well. 

We old.

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

First off.  Its a Good guy Bad guy game. Where we make up characters of good and bad. 

Didja ever think maybe the dude thinks of nazi's as bad people, so he made one up to be a Bad guy. 

  I used to be The HIllside Strangler, till i found out there were two stranglers, n studied the case. I had to remove the char once i found out what those guys did out a moral sense. They tied em up in a van n keep em there, rented them out, tortured them, cuts parts off. 

 

 None of you kids understand the current world but you scoff at the 100 year old nazi uprising, while we have BLM, the cartels in elected office, while fire fighters burn rich democrat towns to renew their budget, the DoJ shoots up schools n bars n collages to promote gun control. 

 If you want to bann the nazi symbol you also need to bann most of the flags, including the US flag and every flag of the Americas except canada. all are facist racist patooties.

[vsb 6171]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

I used to be The HIllside Strangler, till i found out there were two stranglers, n studied the case. I had to remove the char once i found out what those guys did out a moral sense.

did it not occur to you that a person with the nickname “strangler” might not have been a wholesome example of humanity?

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

2 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

did it not occur to you that a person with the nickname “strangler” might not have been a wholesome example of humanity?

 It did. I was a criminal and figured it was better'n a fucboi.  I just figured he would strangle women on some hillside or along freeway embankments, at the time, we had The Freeway Killer as well and it was thought at the time they were the same people. 

 We were warned as kids to watch out, not go to far from home, or the hillside strangler might get you.

Really my point is I could be any number of dastardly characters, I could be Edi Amin, Bin laden, I could be fkn Stalin n fly the old Soviet flag, who murdered 60-100 million people. I could be drug dealer, potentially killing and enslaving the masses to their product. 

 But i can't be a German from ww2 or a Nazi. What about the Japs n the March of Death and bayoneting babies, but i could be a Samari or a Japanese officer, i could be a cartel member or a friggin Yakusa or a Triad. But i can't be a nazi. The offended person has a very narrow view of the world. 

[vsb 6171]

28 minutes ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

Really my point is I could be any number of dastardly characters, I could be Edi Amin, Bin laden, I could be fkn Stalin n fly the old Soviet flag, who murdered 60-100 million people. I could be drug dealer, potentially killing and enslaving the masses to their product. 

 But i can't be a German from ww2 or a Nazi. What about the Japs n the March of Death and bayoneting babies, but i could be a Samari or a Japanese officer, i could be a cartel member or a friggin Yakusa or a Triad. But i can't be a nazi.

only one of these things is illegal in a country where apb servers are located

[Westford 167]

8 hours ago, Ketog said:

What's the point of this thread again ?

 

Per the tilte of this thread "nazi flag turned backwards on jehrico player not banned"

So the German Swastika although the player had the image turned backwards.

 

3 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

First off.  Its a Good guy Bad guy game. Where we make up characters of good and bad. 

Didja ever think maybe the dude thinks of nazi's as bad people, so he made one up to be a Bad guy. 

 

Granted this player wanted to portray a bad guy, the problem with Swastikas, and what the symbol represents

is legally banned in Germany.

So ALL Game Companies have a legal obligation to not allow that symbol if they wish to make their game

available in that Country.

 

Really, no way around this.

 

Quote

 None of you kids understand the current world but you scoff at the 100 year old nazi uprising, while we have BLM, the cartels in elected office, while fire fighters burn rich democrat towns to renew their budget, the DoJ shoots up schools n bars n collages to promote gun control. 

 If you want to bann the nazi symbol you also need to bann most of the flags, including the US flag and every flag of the Americas except canada. all are facist racist patooties.

Hmm, trying to draw a parallelism between Nazi Germany whose government at that time was a Fascist Dictatorship to

the United States, which has been, and still is after almost 250 years, a Constitutional Republic/Democracy,

is either a poor attempt at irony/sarcasm, or a lack of knowledge.

 

 

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

 But i can't be a German from ww2 or a Nazi. What about the Japs n the March of Death and bayoneting babies, but i could be a Samari or a Japanese officer, i could be a cartel member or a friggin Yakusa or a Triad. But i can't be a nazi. The offended person has a very narrow view of the world. 

You can absolutely be a German from WW II, you just cannot display a Swastika, as there are legal issues involved as I described above.
As far as the other characters that you mentioned above, the whole world as a whole has recognized the atrocities

that were perpetrated to one select group of people at an attempt of genocide by Nazi Germany.

But again, displaying the Swastika in a video game has legal ramifications where as the other characters you mentioned do not.
So, although some people may be espousing moral issues with that particular symbol, it is also a legal issue.
 

 

EDIT:
I thought I should add, that if you check out the weapon skins available on ARMAS,

there are quite a few country weapon skins, including the United States.

But no Swastika weapon skins are available.

 

Another interesting note, the Trump mask does not appear to be available anymore,

although the Richard Nixon mask is still there.

 

One can assume that the Trump mask was so popular, that their inventory just ran out,

and they decided not to replenish the stock.

 

Have a great day.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2018 by Westford

[Saxtus 497]

But there was no swastika in the first place. Only a Buddhism religion symbol.

Why the fuss about it? 

[Westford 167]

9 minutes ago, Saxtus said:

But there was no swastika in the first place. Only a Buddhism religion symbol.

Why the fuss about it? 

Not sure.

 

Although I would not put it past some players to "walk a fine line" with regards to controversial symbols.
Wouldn't be the first time.

 

If the player used the Buddhist symbol on a German Nazi uniform, then you could guess that

they were trying to push the envelope as it were.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Westford

[Saxtus 497]

So if I am offended by letter E I should react the same when I see number 3... Lesson learned! 

[Westford 167]

3 minutes ago, Saxtus said:

So if I am offended by letter E I should react the same when I see number 3... Lesson learned! 

 

Huh ?

 

I'm still trying to understand, so you're one up on me.

 

I had added an edit to my comment previously concerning "walking a fine line", which might clear things up.

 

A player who wears a German uniform with a backwards Swastika or displays that symbol on their vehicle,

a Japanese symbol as you had pointed out, are they considered as someone "walking a fine line".

 

Is that player trying to provoke a response ?

Do they have a specific agenda in mind ?

 

Or they just love Japanese culture.

One can only guess what that players true intentions are.

 

 

 

[sundere 25]

is only for the nazi flag or he just owned you?, if we start to getting offended i claim to ban people who use commie symbols too, and "antifa" symbols.

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

2 hours ago, Westford said:

Hmm, trying to draw a parallelism between Nazi Germany whose government at that time was a Fascist Dictatorship to

the United States, which has been, and still is after almost 250 years, a Constitutional Republic/Democracy,

is either a poor attempt at irony/sarcasm, or a lack of knowledge.

 I live in California, ran by BLM and the Cartels, Fascists hiding behind the word Socialism. There are no Good Communists in California!

Selective Richness, mass taxation, ballot tampering, sanctioned shootings and fires, where invaders have more rights and financial backing than Native born people. The left wing is pro baby chopping and selling the parts, n mask it for dialysis treatment. Stole money for a train n dint make one, stole money for roads n din't fix em, n now they want more.  I see no US Marines fighting back so I dont consider this a free country nor part of the USA. 

           

 

[Westford 167]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

 I live in California, ran by BLM and the Cartels, Fascists hiding behind the word Socialism. There are no Good Communists in California!

Selective Richness, mass taxation, ballot tampering, sanctioned shootings and fires, where invaders have more rights and financial backing than Native born people. The left wing is pro baby chopping and selling the parts, n mask it for dialysis treatment. Stole money for a train n dint make one, stole money for roads n din't fix em, n now they want more.  I see no US Marines fighting back so I dont consider this a free country nor part of the USA. 

           

 

Ahh, I hear ya, yeah, California is a mess.

And you outlined their governmental leadership, or lack thereof (both federal,state and local) pretty accurately.

 

I's kind of sad.

 

I had visited San Fransisco a few times many years ago, beautiful city back then, now, it's literally gone to sh*t.

(literally... in the streets)

 

With the severe water restrictions in most areas, I always wondered why they never built 1 or 2 desalination plants.

(they're right on the ocean .. lol)

But given their mismanagement of state's budgets, I suppose it's no wonder.

 

Sorry to to hear this.

 

EDIT:

I hope you're not near any of the wildfires there, and that you and loved ones are safe.

 

Edited November 16, 2018 by Westford

[JudgeAnderson 21]

20 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

You are really bad at history my friend. 

 

 

The Holocaust, also referred to as the Shoah, was a genocide during World War II in which Nazi Germany, aided by its collaborators, systematically murdered some six million European Jews,[c] around two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe,[d] between 1941 and 1945.[7] Jews were targeted for extermination as part of a larger event involving the persecution and murder of other groups, including in particular the Roma and "incurably sick",[8] as well as ethnic Poles and other Slavs, Soviet citizens, Soviet prisoners of war, political opponents, gay men and Jehovah's Witnesses, resulting in up to 17 million deaths overall.[e]

 

Also, you never answered about your age.

 

Bottom line, check your facts before you run your mouth, and never make up lies about "friends' parents being born in concentration camps" because not only is the lie easy to spot, it does nothing to bolster your argument.

Why so agressive tbere mr.puss? Lol. Whoops didnt check a reference, relied on my shitty high school education there, quoted death count at  the Auschwitz complex instead. Not a lie bro about the parents, not MY parents I should add never said that, LEARN TO READ YOU JERK FACE lol lol

i maybe bad at history but i dont make shit up to prove a point lol 

And it show that this is something that is still fresh in the minds of those who this was a real thing for them and this is not a delicate snow flake thing. And it is fucking horrible all can agree on that. 

 

 

[JudgeAnderson 21]

And finally mr.puss not sure why you posted like you where proving something there, doent change the argument which has become the main point of the post 1mil or 100mil dead still an aweful memory people dont like to relive. But thanks for googling there (doesnt make you good at history btw lol)

[JudgeAnderson 21]

21 hours ago, Sergsininia said:

Well why def3nd it if you dont support it? You dont feel you can express what you really feel?

If you dont think you can express yourself 'this game really isnt for you'

I suggest focus on your top 2 pet hates and report the f*** out of them when the servers are down. Tbats what I do. Plenty of time to cut the fat from this game. For every troll we get rid of another 2 new players will stay. I want to see the evidence supporting this.

You are right there is no evidence of this but turn the question around and see what comes of that. Keeping trolls in the game incourages new players to keep playing or discourages new players from playing?