Why Matt Scott support cheaters?

[PonuryZniwiarz 52]

Its even worse than G1 times i see cheaters everyday, they use teleports and other shit, i saw same guy teleporting month ago and now. And you can get  ban for posting video for prooving they cheating, They all got unbans, and i got ban on discord. good logic LO

[CookiePuss 5385]

Brother when you join a Discord you are agreeing to its rules. 
No name and shame is rule #1.

Also I’m willing to bet that you are leaving out some details as to why exactly you were banned.

 

 

[PonuryZniwiarz 52]

sister listen to me, no cheats in the game should be rule number 1 but you prefer to make game dead

[MACKxBOLAN 461]

Matt left allot of people wondering Why?

 He had so many nice things to say about sard and then one day, said it was crap n walked away. 

He has said nothing about it or the continuing large pop of hackers  in district.

So we have zero knowledge of whats going on, are hackers still on a point system?

Does he have any solution?

Or is he just gonna ignore it?

 Of course I have my suspicions and now they've only gotten worse.

We have no knowledge of even if the report feature does anything, or rather goes anywhere. 

We weren't told what to do when encountering a hacker or several large groups of them. 

So we can only assume that everything said about cheat points ect. is all out the window.

ya know I could go on n on about it, but its not worth my time. 

The game has gone to trash, it crashes or is down for maint for crashing.

Pity, if we had segregation like the old days, we wouldn't need the anti cheat or an MM fix. 

 

 

[Ysaline 34]

I had my suspicions that the SARD is turned off because the cheater infestation is crazy.
Makes the game unplayable.

[DedGaem 161]

On 4/13/2025 at 5:54 AM, CookiePuss said:

Brother when you join a Discord you are agreeing to its rules. 
No name and shame is rule #1.

Also I’m willing to bet that you are leaving out some details as to why exactly you were banned.

Spare us the gaslighting. A lot of us have matched people who are just the extreme blatant cheats to go along with the numerous wallhackers, triggerbotters, macroers, ESP guys.  He's not lying. Weekends are the worst... the game is nearly unplayable if u don't have cheats or carried by a cheater.  The EXTREME hackers.. are few.. maybe 2-4 guys.. but they're pretty unmistakeable. You can watch on your map... as they full speed warp and kill EVERYONE on the mission. It's out of control. This is on Citadel btw. yeah and FC is a hacker's paradise as well... but it's worse when the blatants play in missions... because they just farm until the district empties.

Name & Shame has been a horribly ineffective policy that clearly protects the cheaters and frustrates the legit players. Come on, you don't even have an anticheat or a working report system.

Look, the game has ALWAYS had cheaters.  IN fact, the golden age had closet hackers. Closet hackers play very close to normal.  We're way beyond that.  When he's talking about these warping, porting, speedhackers... it's a whole new level and entire teams of golds quit out and stop playing.  While it isn't the role of the playerbase to POLICE the game... Blaming the guy who mentions something egregious happening to deteriorate the game should have SPCT/GM/VOLUNTEERS logging into the damn game... to spectate the guys who multiple people have reported... with zero result.

If not, then at  this point and level of failure... just add proprietary cheats to the game for a sub and delete accounts detected using"other companies cheats." At least then the game would be remotely fair and playable... right now it's flushing down the cosmic commode.. and so many players just give up and AFK the mission or quitout and leave you against RIDICULOUS level of cheating.

Why would any sane company allow a handful of selfish psychopaths ruin their game, make their loyal players miserable and quit playing... not to mention eradicate any new players trying the game for the first time. You think they don't see the guys insta-porting to objectives or warping out of the line of fire while never missing... or speed hacking so fast they kill everyone on the team, at different distances... in seconds?  We ALL see it.  Some might deny to hide THEIR cheats... but anyone with half a brain who wanted their game to thrive would log in and see for themselves the DAMNED obvious.  This is why game reviews are all saying the Devs don't care... not only that... their volunteers are clueless and also don't care.. and aggressively attack and blame the critics.

It's well beyond some hackers now.  It's hard core out of control hacking to a level that's downright abusive to the longsuffering playebase. But yeah.. punish the guys who get frustrated when report does nothing and "name and shame."  It's not even fair to call it "name & shame."  It's friendly warning to other players after they've seen the degree of insanity.. giving fair warning about outrageous cheaters to beware of.

The only SHAME belongs to Matt Scott and Little Orbit for treating this game and the playerbase like abandoned dog POOO.. and ofc defending all the outrageous cheaters.. and I'm not even talking about the closeters.

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Edited April 15 by DedGaem

[DedGaem 161]

1 hour ago, Ysaline said:

I had my suspicions that the SARD is turned off because the cheater infestation is crazy.
Makes the game unplayable.

The solution with a tiny game population isn't bans... well maybe for the exceptionally psychopathic game disruptors who are egregious. The solution isn't REMOVE an anticheat. and let things slide into uncontrollable deterioration..

The SOLUTION is TEMPORARY KICKS on detection.

If someone is detected cheating, kick out of game for 15 min.
If he's detected a 2nd time in 24 hrs... TEMP KICK out of game for 30 min.
If he's detected a 3rd time in 24 hrs... TEMP KICK for 1 hour... and for every detection within the rest of the 24 hour time frame... every detection kick for 1 hour. 
ALL kicks to be reset following 24 hours without detection. No points.  No lifetime bans. Just DISCIPLINE in game to preserve the integrity of it.

That 1. Preserves the playerbase when too many use cheats.. and removes desire to rage cheat after losing their account on perma-ban.
2. Protects the accounts of people from false bans... as they can work with support to find out WHY they're being falsely detected..
3. It PROTECTS THE GAME from cheaters by removing them when they cheat.

Essentially it makes the whole game into a Purgatory District... but that's a LOT better than a rage cheating broken game that causes everyone BUT cheater's to quit.. and effectively prevents any new players. In short... it's a CHANCE to save the game... even if it brings back closeters who "judiciously" use cheats, and rarely.. because even THAT is closer to normal than the insane broken, predatory depravity the game is becoming.

Another thing you might consider since population is far too small to bring back Threat Districts... is HIDE THREAT.  Let it be an internal detection.

Edited April 15 by DedGaem

[LilyRain 704]

1 hour ago, DedGaem said:

The SOLUTION is TEMPORARY KICKS on detection.

That has its own downsides as well.

Cheaters will get kicked. Then, they will keep trying till they know how to effectively not trigger the anti-cheat.

Then we're back to normal. They'll continue cheating without getting kicked.

[DedGaem 161]

3 hours ago, LilyRain said:

That has its own downsides as well.
Cheaters will get kicked. Then, they will keep trying till they know how to effectively not trigger the anti-cheat.
Then we're back to normal. They'll continue cheating without getting kicked.

1. We can't create a perfect solution at this stage of deterioration.

2. Our playerbase is ridiculously too small even for appropriate matchmaking... if they start a banwave, the game for all intents and purposes won't exist.. and being F2P these guys will come roaring back ragehacking because they lost their accounts and farm back all the joker ticket legendaries they used to own.

3. Hack sites haven't had to worry about detections since Little Orbit took control. I doubt the APB hacker population is substantial enough to warrant the cost investment of having to continually update the cheats they make and sell.  Moreover, the POINT of a functional anticheat is to DETECT.. if it fails at this, it is useless and a better anticheat should be used.

4. Temp kicks will serve the function of forcing cheaters to tone down their rage hacking.  I'm being honest here... APB has ALWAYS had cheaters.  But, when they KNEW they could be banned they played "sort of" within the rules... aka closet.  After G1 went on intensive ban sprees.. literally banning THOUSANDS of accounts... the game never recovered. LO bought the game and promised an unbanwave which was, at  the time, extremely popular because there WERE false detections, false bans... and THOUSANDS of unhappy people.. sadly most left the game permanently... LO's failed promises were the icing on the sad cake.

5. The point of Temp Kicks is to keep the game at a "reasonably fair" manageable level.  You can beat a closet cheater, sometimes, with skill.  No one can beat a rage cheater who's ballstothewalls. When a lot of players are hardcore cheating without bothering to hide... because there's no detection, no report, and no penalty... it severely compromises the exiting playerbase and we lose MORE people.  Temp Kicks are a REMINDER that rage cheating won't be tolerated... and this is to PRESERVE the game's existence.  There are a few players who are... for lack of a better term... psychopathic. They play to DESTROY everyone else's enjoyment using full bore rage cheats.. even when matched against new and clueless bronzes.  These few guys make full gold teams quit out midmatch.. and are responsible for a huge drop in the playerbase. Because... why play... when there's no chance at all and you're just being repeatedly farmed  like a fool?

They don't care what you do to them, because a stock gun can perform miracles while rage-hacking... they can lose their accounts again and again and just make new ones... but... if there are tempkicks on detection which have an immediate consequence... to PLAY they will be forced to tone down their excessive, blatant, playerbase eradication mode playstyle.  If they somehow BYPASS detection... there are few enough of them that cumulative reports should be looked into by GMs who can then SEE the blatant rage hacking IF THEY BOTHER TO LOG IN AND SPECTATE SAID RAGE CHEATERS.. They can then fine tune settings to kick those guys. If BANS actually worked... it would be a thing... but in the age of F2P and VPN... it doesn't. 

Temporary kicks on detection would act like a SPEED BUMP in the road to derail the reckless SPEEDERS racing too fast and derailing the game... who make loyal players quit playing.

Edited April 15 by DedGaem

[MACKxBOLAN 461]

EZ way is just don't play, LO coddles cheaters, then gives the legits the cold shoulder.

They get instant gold, which is impossible for a legit. 

Let em run their hogwash operation, I gaf anymore

[LilyRain 704]

12 hours ago, DedGaem said:

1. We can't create a perfect solution at this stage of deterioration.

2. Our playerbase is ridiculously too small even for appropriate matchmaking... if they start a banwave, the game for all intents and purposes won't exist.. and being F2P these guys will come roaring back ragehacking because they lost their accounts and farm back all the joker ticket legendaries they used to own.

3. Hack sites haven't had to worry about detections since Little Orbit took control. I doubt the APB hacker population is substantial enough to warrant the cost investment of having to continually update the cheats they make and sell.  Moreover, the POINT of a functional anticheat is to DETECT.. if it fails at this, it is useless and a better anticheat should be used.

4. Temp kicks will serve the function of forcing cheaters to tone down their rage hacking.  I'm being honest here... APB has ALWAYS had cheaters.  But, when they KNEW they could be banned they played "sort of" within the rules... aka closet.  After G1 went on intensive ban sprees.. literally banning THOUSANDS of accounts... the game never recovered. LO bought the game and promised an unbanwave which was, at  the time, extremely popular because there WERE false detections, false bans... and THOUSANDS of unhappy people.. sadly most left the game permanently... LO's failed promises were the icing on the sad cake.

5. The point of Temp Kicks is to keep the game at a "reasonably fair" manageable level.  You can beat a closet cheater, sometimes, with skill.  No one can beat a rage cheater who's ballstothewalls. When a lot of players are hardcore cheating without bothering to hide... because there's no detection, no report, and no penalty... it severely compromises the exiting playerbase and we lose MORE people.  Temp Kicks are a REMINDER that rage cheating won't be tolerated... and this is to PRESERVE the game's existence.  There are a few players who are... for lack of a better term... psychopathic. They play to DESTROY everyone else's enjoyment using full bore rage cheats.. even when matched against new and clueless bronzes.  These few guys make full gold teams quit out midmatch.. and are responsible for a huge drop in the playerbase. Because... why play... when there's no chance at all and you're just being repeatedly farmed  like a fool?

They don't care what you do to them, because a stock gun can perform miracles while rage-hacking... they can lose their accounts again and again and just make new ones... but... if there are tempkicks on detection which have an immediate consequence... to PLAY they will be forced to tone down their excessive, blatant, playerbase eradication mode playstyle.  If they somehow BYPASS detection... there are few enough of them that cumulative reports should be looked into by GMs who can then SEE the blatant rage hacking IF THEY BOTHER TO LOG IN AND SPECTATE SAID RAGE CHEATERS.. They can then fine tune settings to kick those guys. If BANS actually worked... it would be a thing... but in the age of F2P and VPN... it doesn't. 

Temporary kicks on detection would act like a SPEED BUMP in the road to derail the reckless SPEEDERS racing too fast and derailing the game... who make loyal players quit playing.

You are basically Little Orbit in a parallel timeline.

Yes, perfect solutions are simply not achievable. That does NOT mean it is okay to move to a worse place. It is not a motivation/reason/excuse.

 

What do you think the latest attempts with SARD and prior to it, the open-source-for-developers Easy Anti Cheat were? Exactly that... they were attempts to 'detect' Cheaters.
------------------
My friend, LO CAN'T DETECT. They ended up false banning so naturally they'll end up false kicking as well.

Cheaters will figure out how to bypass ban/kick Triggers within only 1-2 hours after whatever LO comes up with goes live, period. So ultimately, you'll only piss off actual players by getting them kicked.

 

You won't affect any Cheater with this.

Edited Wednesday at 04:41 AM by LilyRain

[EVInezca 85]

DUDES LO  since they have buy apb doing Zero vs Cheater they maked apb to a 100% cheater are welcome game. And they support cheater with op .45 secondary gun and nerfed all stuf and guns  what give legit plyer counterplay options. + because since they do zero and unbannd REALY ALL CHEATER WHO EVER CHEATED IN THE GAME so now the people who cheat have high lvl accounts with zero fear to lose. With all the nice stuff what a high lvl so have. 

 

The good old days in apb

[EVInezca 85]

DUDES LO  since they have buy apb doing Zero vs Cheater they maked apb to a 100% cheater are welcome game. And they support cheater with op .45 secondary gun and nerfed all stuf and guns  what give legit plyer counterplay options. + because since they do zero and unbannd REALY ALL CHEATER WHO EVER CHEATED IN THE GAME so now the people who cheat have high lvl accounts with zero fear to lose. With all the nice stuff what a high lvl so have. 

 

The good old days in apb i love apb dont understand me wrong. I have big hope in SARD.

Edited Wednesday at 12:22 PM by EVInezca

[MACKxBOLAN 461]

7 hours ago, EVInezca said:

I have big hope in SARD.

they turned sard off because it bans cheaters

[Uhtdred 249]

19 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

they turned sard off because it bans cheaters

no. SARD didn't ban cheaters in the first place.

[MACKxBOLAN 461]

4 hours ago, Uhtdred said:

SARD didn't ban cheater

No it did not, but it did give LO the numbers of how many cheats they had, only LO would do the actual banning. 

 So with matts policy of no bans, I believe the Sard people wanted those people banned as opposed to continuously 

detecting the same people and or they wanted payment for said number of bans. 

 The number mentioned by Matt was about 73. I believe this was a number from EU.

I don't believe sard was ever active in NA, and LO failed to answer that a direct question several times. 

So I think the 73 would be about 1/4 of the EU pop.

NA struggles to get a full server, and we had noone missing, and nobody talking about restrictions due to cheat points. 

 So Sard was telling them that they had cheaters but LO did not want to lose that population.

Now it's so bad that average players are having to cheat just to fight back, and why not. 

LO has proven they would rather have a bunch of cheats and have let them do what ever in NA.

You might get one mission a week that is legits on both sides.

 Big thing is Matt has not readdressed the issue n simply disappeared.

So the Hate War goes on, Legits hate the hackers and the hackers hate the legits. 

And from the looks of it, this is a permanent thing forever. A few legits getting "Robbed Out' 

by hackers all day. 

[EVInezca 85]

The player pop never growing with Lo and his cheater policy. Good games become much more rare. The new mm help liddle. Start with the bans matt and will see what happen. You dont have to catch every.

 

Someone who cheat know the risk he can get a ban why give them free from this feel?

 

That many cheater in the game are all so big losers. And i mean not only the aimbot and triggerbot user the player with macro and Recoil control are also cheater. 

Edited Thursday at 11:11 PM by EVInezca

[CookiePuss 5385]

On 4/15/2025 at 5:35 AM, DedGaem said:

Spare us the gaslighting. A lot of us have matched people who are just the extreme blatant cheats to go along with the numerous wallhackers, triggerbotters, macroers, ESP guys.  He's not lying. Weekends are the worst... the game is nearly unplayable if u don't have cheats or carried by a cheater.  The EXTREME hackers.. are few.. maybe 2-4 guys.. but they're pretty unmistakeable. You can watch on your map... as they full speed warp and kill EVERYONE on the mission. It's out of control. This is on Citadel btw. yeah and FC is a hacker's paradise as well... but it's worse when the blatants play in missions... because they just farm until the district empties.

Name & Shame has been a horribly ineffective policy that clearly protects the cheaters and frustrates the legit players. Come on, you don't even have an anticheat or a working report system.

Look, the game has ALWAYS had cheaters.  IN fact, the golden age had closet hackers. Closet hackers play very close to normal.  We're way beyond that.  When he's talking about these warping, porting, speedhackers... it's a whole new level and entire teams of golds quit out and stop playing.  While it isn't the role of the playerbase to POLICE the game... Blaming the guy who mentions something egregious happening to deteriorate the game should have SPCT/GM/VOLUNTEERS logging into the damn game... to spectate the guys who multiple people have reported... with zero result.

If not, then at  this point and level of failure... just add proprietary cheats to the game for a sub and delete accounts detected using"other companies cheats." At least then the game would be remotely fair and playable... right now it's flushing down the cosmic commode.. and so many players just give up and AFK the mission or quitout and leave you against RIDICULOUS level of cheating.

Why would any sane company allow a handful of selfish psychopaths ruin their game, make their loyal players miserable and quit playing... not to mention eradicate any new players trying the game for the first time. You think they don't see the guys insta-porting to objectives or warping out of the line of fire while never missing... or speed hacking so fast they kill everyone on the team, at different distances... in seconds?  We ALL see it.  Some might deny to hide THEIR cheats... but anyone with half a brain who wanted their game to thrive would log in and see for themselves the DAMNED obvious.  This is why game reviews are all saying the Devs don't care... not only that... their volunteers are clueless and also don't care.. and aggressively attack and blame the critics.

It's well beyond some hackers now.  It's hard core out of control hacking to a level that's downright abusive to the longsuffering playebase. But yeah.. punish the guys who get frustrated when report does nothing and "name and shame."  It's not even fair to call it "name & shame."  It's friendly warning to other players after they've seen the degree of insanity.. giving fair warning about outrageous cheaters to beware of.

The only SHAME belongs to Matt Scott and Little Orbit for treating this game and the playerbase like abandoned dog POOO.. and ofc defending all the outrageous cheaters.. and I'm not even talking about the closeters.

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Sorry I wasn’t trying to say there are no cheaters or that we have any kind of working AC (I don’t know any more than anyone else). 
all I was saying was don’t join a discord, repeatedly break the rules and then complain when you get kicked. 

Edited Friday at 08:51 PM by CookiePuss

[DedGaem 161]

12 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Sorry I wasn’t trying to say there are no cheaters or that we have any kind of working AC (I don’t know any more than anyone else). 
all I was saying was don’t join a discord, repeatedly break the rules and then complain when you get kicked. 

Okay, but can you see the entire point you made was to derail the guys legit complaints? I mean basically you just blame HIM and negate everything he said.  Cookie... I've seen this teleport, warping, speedhack.. a few times.. with diff names.. not sure how many of them are using it. It's not common. But I have seen it 2-3x a week. I've seen in it FC and on missions... (Citadel).  Just yesterday I saw it.. was out of mission.. a guy whose name was in Russian letters (so I would have no way to copy for report).. was literally running faster than car speed on Financial while warping back and forth. 

Here's someone who caught it on video.  I'm posting it because the staff really is negligent.. Yes they want to fix Matchmaking and do events.. and for their tiny staff that's about ALL they can do... but behind the scenes a literal deterioration of the game is taking place because cheaters don't fear bans without an anticheat.  Yeah, I've matched a speed-warp-port hack guy before. We were WINNING and it pissed him off.. so he started these shenanigans and ported to EVERY member of the team and kept repeatedly wiping us.. because he comes at you so fast,, you can't humanly react. and you can't even hit him. My guess is, he warps faster than even aimbots can react. And the regular cheating is 1/3 of EVERY MISSION (yes, it's HARD to be sure it's actually cheating... but I'm trying to INFORM that cheating is now SO BLATANT you can't even DENY it.  Since the LO staff doesn't play.. they don't see how teams with solid gold players... QUIT playing approx 1/3 of every mission. Fixing matchmaking... while this is going on... isn't helping. What's happening to this game in front of everyone's faces is going to KILL off the loyal playerbase. 

APB Reoladed cheat AIM + TRIGGER + VH + Cheat + Speedboost  2025

[JungleFlaco 10]

#Sadness

[DedGaem 161]

17 hours ago, JungleFlaco said:

#Sadness

What's sad is the OP came to forums to warn of this... extremely game-breaking (extreme cheat)... and was derailed because when he went to Discord to draw needed attention to the problem, HE was kicked... for NAME & SHAME.  It's at such level now that guys RECORD THEMSELVES CHEATING WHILE USING CHEATS (I posted one video...it's NOT NAME&SHAME when someone exposes themselves)... But I also posted a video someone else took of THIS VERY SAME EXTREME SPEED-WARP-TELEPORT cheat... the OP was warning about.  I've seen it first-hand.  It exists in game.  The guy's not exaggerating.  It's BAD.

And too date... the cheaters are still doing it, you hear people call out in district chat SPEED HACK.... and not even a response from the company. LO, you are NEGLIGENT, and you NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF CHEATING NOW. Show some respect for what's left of your playerbase.  Enough is enough. I made report of one guy using it.  The OP did. the guy who took the video did, it's on the video.  And to date... NOTHING'S been done, not even an acknowledgement... just LO BAN'S THE GUY IN DISCORD FOR DARING TO SAY.

Seriously, What the hell LO? FIX THE PROBLEM. WE NEED AN ANTICHEAT NOW... (one that works, not some experimental bs with a 10 year old SARD that has so many cheat work-arounds). When you get SERIOUS about your game... that's what will REVIVE it.  As long as you treat it like abandonware without an anticheat... it plunges heedlessly toward full abandonment.. I don't know.. maybe that's what you want. I've been investing a bit because I want the game to succeed.  I believe it can be revived... but your loyal playerbase is POWERLESS IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS.

And I have NEVER advocated permanent bans... it's too easy for a guy to make a new account and come back rage hacking.  But we DO need a SPEED BUMP to discourge out of control speeding (cheating). If people are DETECTED and KICKED repeatedly from game, for longer periods they'll tone down their blazing blatant useage and the game will be fairer, more playable, and more new player friendly. Now, if cheaters find work-arounds... your anticheat is subpar.

 

Moreover... there should be atleast 1 GM... able to spectate unseen in-game at LEAST to follow people who either have frequent detections, or are accused in reports of seriously game-breaking cheats like the speedhack-port-warp thing.  Those persons can be dealt with more harshly as a discouragement. The goal is to ENCOURAGE GOOD BEHAVIOR AND DISCOURAGE BAD BEHAVIOR.. Of course doing nothing will give you the opposite negative result.

Edited yesterday at 09:04 AM by DedGaem