BoomLion 46 Posted October 13 Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats so i can play again.. got alot of time an money love APB but cant take all teh macros an stuff..plz tell me theres no cheats so i can pwn everyone.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 434 Posted October 13 26 minutes ago, BoomLion said: Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats I Don't work for LO. We only have one gm running the forums and doing developing as well. A gm is rarely seen in district. There are loads of cheaters in NA and have been for some time. Of course there have always been cheaters/hax but it came to a head bout 6 months ago. People begging for change of the former anti cheat EAC. Which had worked for exactly 12hrs before they cracked it and came in hacking. We saw only two bans from EAC one for a layering program in designer, and one known legit for out of bounds. We begged for change. So Matt gave us change, he unbanned anyone ever banned. And claimed that EAC had false banned them. Adding thousands of hackers. They said gm's would watch them, the gm's came in for a few hours one day. These were people from years back, in other words these people hadn't been seen since the fair fight days. So they said they tested EAC and it came back with a 30% false positive. But the people they let back in were not banned by EAC. So The Toxic factor went thru the roof. The new SARD is suppose to be both client and server side. We have knowledge that the server side is not on, because someone said so in this forum. Saying there was no sending or receiving signal for sard. I'm not tech savvy but he said there was no communication between the server and sard, indicating we were still on the free version without any server side coverage. When this post came out, no gm or staff debated or answered the post. So they did the unban then put sard in a week later, then added a contact. So legits had to fight these hackers to remax. And Nothing from Matt or Gms has been said for months about hacking or behavior. They have tuned a few guns and cars. Nothing has changed in district. It is no longer a playable game unless you're hacking and one of them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted October 13 There will never be zero cheaters. But has the cheating gotten better? no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRawwwN 283 Posted October 13 2 hours ago, CookiePuss said: There will never be zero cheaters. But has the cheating gotten better? no no, it has not. might let my nephew log on my account and game a little tho.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 613 Posted October 13 If anything its gotten worse. More cheaters overall and they know LO doesnt care to actually stop it so they continue on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a Pair of Socks 126 Posted October 13 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said: If anything its gotten worse. More cheaters overall and they know LO doesnt care to actually stop it so they continue on Im convinced LO condones the cheating. Can't say who (cause they actually ban for calling out cheaters and posting proof) but it's one of the same spergs that's been banned by every single iteration of anti-cheat has ever had since APB started and has been manually banned by GM's multiple times from LO staff alone is still back online and being obvious af. I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point. Edited October 13 by a Pair of Socks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 716 Posted October 14 3 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said: Im convinced LO condones the cheating. Can't say who (cause they actually ban for calling out cheaters and posting proof) but it's one of the same spergs that's been banned by every single iteration of anti-cheat has ever had since APB started and has been manually banned by GM's multiple times from LO staff alone is still back online and being obvious af. I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point. They need the player pop as high as possible to convince those investors. I doubt LO is profiting from APB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 434 Posted October 14 16 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said: I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point. Ya, then they wonder why Mack calls conspiresy. Matt always shows up says some stuff, n disappears for months. You never see him in game. To witness what he has created. Too see the 'Scope' of the hacking and toxics. Since they took over, his demeanor and actions have consistently been favorable to hackers and toxics, and unfavorable to legit customers. I would venture to say that any revenue coming from said hackers and toxics, is Dirty money; as in money acquired thru dishonest means. There is a few that would have financial means and buy hax just to be able to Play and survive with the pool of hackers. That may in addition to the hax be able to afford armas items. The rest, the Career Hackers I don't see as honest working people. Since Matt desegregated the game has been ruined, and solely a hackers game. Every anti cheat has been determined as False Bans or Won't Work with engine. Contact was put in the Hacker Happy District where its all snipers. Anyone rolling up a new character already had too many levels and contacts in wf. And releasing thousands of hackers from the FF days based on false positive testing of the newest pos AC. So from my point of view, He let the hackers in to thwart progression of the few Legits. To make the grind longer. His story about the false positive test of eac and the claim that it false banned, is complete hog wash because the only people banned from NA were manual bans for behavior and 2 auto bans, one for a layering program in designer, and one legit for being legit and out of bounds. So All these vast boat loads of people come in I haven't seen since 2016 were not banned by EAC. So they let them in, when we already had loads of hax, and put in a contact to make people work thru hackers. Told us the GM's would be watching. They were around a couple hrs for two days. Then Mass Hackery and Chat Bashing goes on day in, day out. People troll flipping your car so ya can't play. Hard game to just walk away from but that's where I'm at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anella 73 Posted October 14 13 hours ago, BlatMan said: They need the player pop as high as possible to convince those investors. I doubt LO is profiting from APB. No point of invest money in something that (obviously) doesn't work with its anticheat .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 716 Posted October 14 8 hours ago, Anella said: No point of invest money in something that (obviously) doesn't work with its anticheat .. There's enough idiots out there who think they'll get their money back on a failing company. I don't know how else LO is not out of business. Maybe other projects, but they seem to get sued from those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 167 Posted October 15 I can't speak for everyone, but I thank God that we have SARD to help insure fair gameplay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 434 Posted October 15 53 minutes ago, Westford said: thank God that we have SARD Vengeance is mine', said the Lord. The Lord works in mysterious ways, but I doubt He sent Sard. If he had, there would only be 3-4 players in NA n maybe 20 in EU. The others God would have fried their pc's by fire. I doubt He would have even spared the game it self. This would be considered in Biblical times as a Game of Chance. And a game taking most or all of your attention, when you should be tending your fields or being productive, honoring or worshipping The Lord. Not bowing to the false idol of the internet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 167 Posted October 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said: Vengeance is mine', said the Lord. The Lord works in mysterious ways, but I doubt He sent Sard. If he had, there would only be 3-4 players in NA n maybe 20 in EU. The others God would have fried their pc's by fire. I doubt He would have even spared the game it self. This would be considered in Biblical times as a Game of Chance. And a game taking most or all of your attention, when you should be tending your fields or being productive, honoring or worshipping The Lord. Not bowing to the false idol of the internet. So , are you saying that all of my silent prayers each night after the implementation of SARD to insure fare gameplay against unskilled players using 3rd party tools to gain an advantage for the win have gone unanswered ? Oh Christ ... Edited October 15 by Westford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs 140 Posted October 15 logged in, k-ed up... max rank silver on my team that has no idea what hes doing.... vs 2 cheaters. yeah uninstalled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 167 Posted October 15 21 minutes ago, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said: logged in, k-ed up... max rank silver on my team that has no idea what hes doing.... vs 2 cheaters. yeah uninstalled Although I cannot pronounce your Forum Name, in any recognizable form, I always wondered if players help players in game with tips, and whatnot .. Playing in PUB groups is not my 1st choice. Intuitive Teamwork gameplay with no Voice comm is rare, but does happen. I always liked voice comm when playing, But that's me . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thaumaturge 83 Posted October 16 (edited) most people have no idea what goes into making an anticheat or cheats, they are extremely expensive and statistic based anticheats aren't effective for most cases. LO cannot afford a decked out industry standard anticheat, i'm sorry to break that news to people who did not guess it. secondarily to that, investors aren't likely going to fund it for them because there is no guarantee people would return and provide a return on investment. this game is also very dated making it prone to many security vulnerabilities because it is, by it's age, very easy to reverse engineer. this is unfortunate but it is true. I think LO is running razor thin margins and is stretched pretty thin just from casual observations. if it were me, i'd personally focus on modernizing the entire game engine wise, do a balancing repass, throw on some minor content additions, go back and see demanded suggestions such as returning ladders/threat etc and try to do what they can. seek investor support and relaunch the game with a better anticheat. all of this over the course of about two years provided that timeframe is even enough to modernize the engine. but what do i know, i'm kinda tarded. Edited October 16 by Thaumaturge 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mozie 54 Posted October 16 We've had multiple anti-cheats, which pretty much have been bannin the same players for many years. It's a free shooter on steam you can just create a new account. Why do you think people prefer Faceit over MM in csgo? xd. Its a waste of time to focus on cheaters especially since pop drop drastically everytime they ban people. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VendettaZP 0 Posted October 16 I love this game very much , we back to play with my friends like 3 weeks ago, but every day we seen blaming in chat from rusian racists ( We are Ukranians ) . Every day we see Hackers, Cheaters idk how to call this guys... people playing, never missing, shuting jumping , standing on car killing with tommygun from 80m that is insane... Such a lovely game , and i dont see any alternative game with same funcionality .. so sad. Merged. Sry for my eng, i trying talk without translater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victoria97 15 Posted October 16 On 10/13/2024 at 2:10 PM, BoomLion said: Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats so i can play again.. got alot of time an money love APB but cant take all teh macros an stuff..plz tell me theres no cheats so i can pwn everyone.... sorry but you are seeking something which is impossible in any multiplayer game that exists on the planet. There are always cheaters and there will always be cheaters. what you need to do is train and play more often and you can be pretty well in combat and with results Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoomLion 46 Posted October 16 i got 1500+ hours in APB.. im just seeing how bad it is..is it worth an olddog playing.. not one person has said " there r less cheaters" more its got worse.. hate it cuz i remmber the days when apb had no cheats ..it was epic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 434 Posted October 16 I can understand with the games age and income that paying for a high end AC is not viable. For one there should be no way a player could access files of the game to alter them. I think if game cheating/hacking is so hard to combat. Then Why not do what the voice in the game trailer says. 'We Need People Who are willing to fight fire with fire' Provide me with a save download of aim and movement cheats, that are safe for my system and safe or non taxing to the server. Charge me a fee. Give Me full Sanction. Trash your AC dont pay for one. Make Premium not Free anymore and charge for it. Make your cheat to go along with premium or a premium plus version with the cheats. Don't make it a snap aim or full bot, just something like Smooth aim or Aim Assist. So Not only do you give legit players a way to fight back, you make money doing it. So maybe it's not as good as 3rd party, but it's legal. I can almost guarantee revenue will spike. Not only will you get the angry legits to buy in, but dissuade current 3rd party users from using 3rd party cheats, if they can get legal cheats from LO keeping the account safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 613 Posted October 18 On 10/13/2024 at 3:52 PM, a Pair of Socks said: Im convinced LO condones the cheating. It is tolerated. It is condoned. Take your pick Matt and LO are perfectly fine with cheats in the game. There is 0 transparency as to how many are banned and GMs dont care. Nothing short of not giving LO a penny and signing a petition for change would do anything and that might not even work 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 434 Posted October 18 3 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: It is tolerated. It is condoned Plausible Deniability. in the case of a petition they would probly remove it n ban the player from forum. But I'm already on the No Spending Wagon. I could write forever about why and what things and who make spending on this game very foolish. joker weapons are under powered and not worth the tickets, oh they work great for the hackers. But I'm not even spending the tickets I have because it's useless. Not to mention you run much faster without the useless guns. Won't buy anything until i have full sanction and LO supplied cheats. And a list of names of the Banned, When, why. A list of the 'Flagged by Sard' whether banned or not. Cheats would only be used on other cheats, and at my discretion. Not used to improve my k/d or give me gold. Simply to trash the cheaters k/d. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites