can someone in charge plz plz tell me theres no cheaters

[BoomLion 46]

Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats so i can play again.. got alot of time an money love APB but cant take all teh macros an stuff..plz tell me theres no cheats so i can pwn everyone....

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

26 minutes ago, BoomLion said:

Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats

I Don't work for LO. 

We only have one gm running the forums and doing developing as well. 

A gm is rarely seen in district. 

There are loads of cheaters in NA and have been for some time. 

Of course there have always been cheaters/hax but it came to a head

bout 6 months ago. 

People begging for change of the former anti cheat EAC. 

Which had worked for exactly 12hrs before they cracked it and came in hacking. 

We saw only two bans from EAC one for a layering program in designer, and one known legit

for out of bounds. 

 We begged for change. So Matt gave us change, he unbanned anyone ever banned. 

And claimed that EAC had false banned them. Adding thousands of hackers. 

They said gm's would watch them, the gm's came in for a few hours one day. 

These were people from years back, in other words these people hadn't been seen since

the fair fight days. 

 So they said they tested EAC and it came back with a 30% false positive. 

But the people they let back in were not banned by EAC. 

So The Toxic factor went thru the roof.

 The new SARD is suppose to be both client and server side. 

We have knowledge that the server side is not on, because someone said so in this forum.

Saying there was no sending or receiving signal for sard. I'm not tech savvy but he said 

there was no communication between the server and sard, indicating we were still on the free version 

without any server side coverage. 

 When this post came out, no gm or staff debated or answered the post.

So they did the unban then put sard in a week later, then added a contact. 

So legits had to fight these hackers to remax.

And Nothing from Matt or Gms has been said for months about hacking or behavior.

They have tuned a few guns and cars. 

Nothing has changed in district. 

It is no longer a playable game unless you're hacking and one of them. 

 

[CookiePuss 5378]

There will never be zero cheaters.
But has the cheating gotten better? no

[iRawwwN 282]

2 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

There will never be zero cheaters.
But has the cheating gotten better? no

no, it has not.

 

might let my nephew log on my account and game a little tho....

 

[Darkzero3802 611]

If anything its gotten worse. More cheaters overall and they know LO doesnt care to actually stop it so they continue on

[a Pair of Socks 126]

59 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said:

If anything its gotten worse. More cheaters overall and they know LO doesnt care to actually stop it so they continue on

Im convinced LO condones the cheating.

Can't say who (cause they actually ban for calling out cheaters and posting proof) but it's one of the same spergs that's been banned by every single iteration of anti-cheat has ever had since APB started and has been manually banned by GM's multiple times from LO staff alone is still back online and being obvious af.   I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point.

Edited October 13 by a Pair of Socks

[BlatMan 711]

3 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

Im convinced LO condones the cheating.

Can't say who (cause they actually ban for calling out cheaters and posting proof) but it's one of the same spergs that's been banned by every single iteration of anti-cheat has ever had since APB started and has been manually banned by GM's multiple times from LO staff alone is still back online and being obvious af.   I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point.

They need the player pop as high as possible to convince those investors. I doubt LO is profiting from APB.

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

16 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

I really don't what else we are supposed to conclude at this point.

Ya, then they wonder why Mack calls conspiresy.

Matt always shows up says some stuff, n disappears for months.

You never see him in game. To witness what he has created. 

Too see the 'Scope' of the hacking and toxics. 

Since they took over, his demeanor and actions have consistently been 

favorable to hackers and toxics, and unfavorable to legit customers. 

 I would venture to say that any revenue coming from said hackers and toxics, 

is Dirty money; as in money acquired thru dishonest means.

 There is a few that would have financial means and buy hax just to be able to 

Play and survive with the pool of hackers. That may in addition to the hax be able to 

afford armas items. The rest, the Career Hackers I don't see as honest working people.

Since Matt desegregated the game has been ruined, and solely a hackers game. 

Every anti cheat has been determined as False Bans or Won't Work with engine. 

Contact was put in the Hacker Happy District where its all snipers.

Anyone rolling up a new character already had too many levels and contacts in wf.

And releasing thousands of hackers from the FF days based on false positive testing of the newest 

pos AC.  

 So from my point of view, He let the hackers in to thwart progression of the few Legits. 

To make the grind longer.

His story about the false positive test of eac and the claim that it false banned, 

is complete hog wash because the only people banned from NA were manual bans for 

behavior and 2 auto bans, one for a layering program in designer, and one legit for being legit and out 

of bounds. 

 So All these vast boat loads of people come in I haven't seen since 2016 were not banned by 

EAC. 

So they let them in, when we already had loads of hax, and put in a contact to make people work thru hackers. 

Told us the GM's would be watching. They were around a couple hrs for two days.

Then Mass Hackery and Chat Bashing goes on day in, day out. 

People troll flipping your car so ya can't play.

Hard game to just walk away from but that's where I'm at. 

[Anella 69]

13 hours ago, BlatMan said:

They need the player pop as high as possible to convince those investors. I doubt LO is profiting from APB.

No point of invest money in something that (obviously) doesn't work with its anticheat ..

 

[BlatMan 711]

8 hours ago, Anella said:

No point of invest money in something that (obviously) doesn't work with its anticheat ..

 

There's enough idiots out there who think they'll get their money back on a failing company. I don't know how else LO is not out of business. Maybe other projects, but they seem to get sued from those.

[Westford 167]

I can't speak for everyone, but I thank God that we have SARD to help insure fair gameplay.

 

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

53 minutes ago, Westford said:

thank God that we have SARD

Vengeance is mine', said the Lord. 

The Lord works in mysterious ways, but I doubt He sent Sard. 

If he had, there would only be 3-4 players in NA n maybe 20 in EU.

The others God would have fried their pc's by fire.

I doubt He would have even spared the game it self. 

This would be considered in Biblical times as a Game of Chance.

And a game taking most or all of your attention, when you should be 

tending your fields or being productive, honoring or worshipping The Lord.

Not bowing to the false idol of the internet. 

[Westford 167]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

Vengeance is mine', said the Lord. 

The Lord works in mysterious ways, but I doubt He sent Sard. 

If he had, there would only be 3-4 players in NA n maybe 20 in EU.

The others God would have fried their pc's by fire.

I doubt He would have even spared the game it self. 

This would be considered in Biblical times as a Game of Chance.

And a game taking most or all of your attention, when you should be 

tending your fields or being productive, honoring or worshipping The Lord.

Not bowing to the false idol of the internet. 

So , are you saying that all of my silent prayers each night after the implementation of SARD

to insure fare gameplay against unskilled players using 3rd party tools to gain an advantage

for the win have gone unanswered ?

 

Oh Christ ...

Edited October 15 by Westford

[safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs 140]

logged in, k-ed up... max rank silver on my team that has no idea what hes doing.... vs 2 cheaters. yeah uninstalled

[Westford 167]

21 minutes ago, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said:

logged in, k-ed up... max rank silver on my team that has no idea what hes doing.... vs 2 cheaters. yeah uninstalled

Although I cannot pronounce your Forum Name,

in any recognizable form, I always wondered if players help players

in game with tips, and whatnot ..

 

Playing in  PUB groups is not my 1st choice.

 

Intuitive Teamwork gameplay with no Voice comm is rare,

but does happen.

 

I always liked voice comm when playing,

But that's me .

[Thaumaturge 83]

most people have no idea what goes into making an anticheat or cheats, they are extremely expensive and statistic based anticheats aren't effective for most cases. LO cannot afford a decked out industry standard anticheat, i'm sorry to break that news to people who did not guess it. secondarily to that, investors aren't likely going to fund it for them because there is no guarantee people would return and provide a return on investment.

 

this game is also very dated making it prone to many security vulnerabilities because it is, by it's age, very easy to reverse engineer.

 

this is unfortunate but it is true. I think LO is running razor thin margins and is stretched pretty thin just from casual observations.

 

 

if it were me, i'd personally focus on modernizing the entire game engine wise, do a balancing repass, throw on some minor content additions, go back and see demanded suggestions such as returning ladders/threat etc and try to do what they can. seek investor support and relaunch the game with a better anticheat. all of this over the course of about two years provided that timeframe is even enough to modernize the engine. but what do i know, i'm kinda tarded.

Edited October 16 by Thaumaturge

[Mozie 54]

We've had multiple anti-cheats, which pretty much have been bannin the same players for many years. It's a free shooter on steam you can just create a new account.

Why do you think people prefer Faceit over MM in csgo? xd.

 

Its a waste of time to focus on cheaters especially since pop drop drastically everytime they ban people.

[VendettaZP 0]

I love this game very much , we back to play with my friends  like 3 weeks ago, but every day we seen blaming in chat from rusian racists ( We are Ukranians ) .  Every day we see Hackers, Cheaters idk how to call this guys... people playing, never missing, shuting jumping , standing on car killing with tommygun from 80m that is insane... Such a lovely game , and i dont see any alternative game with same funcionality .. so sad.

 

Merged.

 

Sry for my eng, i trying talk without translater.

[Victoria97 10]

On 10/13/2024 at 2:10 PM, BoomLion said:

Can a GM or someone come an tell me theres no cheats so i can play again.. got alot of time an money love APB but cant take all teh macros an stuff..plz tell me theres no cheats so i can pwn everyone....

sorry but you are seeking something which is impossible in any multiplayer game that exists on the planet. There are always cheaters and there will always be cheaters. 

what you need to do is train and play more often and you can be pretty well in combat and with results

[BoomLion 46]

i got 1500+ hours in APB.. im just seeing how bad it is..is it worth an olddog playing.. not one person has said " there r less cheaters" more its got worse.. hate it cuz i remmber the days when apb had no cheats ..it was epic... 

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

I can understand with the games age and income that paying for a high end AC is not viable. 

 For one there should be no way a player could access files of the game to alter them. 

I think if game cheating/hacking is so hard to combat. 

Then Why not do what the voice in the game trailer says. 

'We Need People Who are willing to fight fire with fire' 

Provide me with a save download of aim and movement cheats, that are safe for my system and

safe or non taxing to the server. 

 Charge me a fee. Give Me full Sanction. 

Trash your AC dont pay for one. 

Make Premium not Free anymore and charge for it. 

Make your cheat to go along with premium or a premium plus version with the cheats. 

Don't make it a snap aim or full bot, just something like Smooth aim or Aim Assist. 

So Not only do you give legit players a way to fight back, you make money doing it. 

So maybe it's not as good as 3rd party, but it's legal. 

I can almost guarantee revenue will spike. 

Not only will you get the angry legits to buy in, but dissuade current 3rd party users from using 3rd party cheats,

if they can get legal cheats from LO keeping the account safe.  

[Darkzero3802 611]

On 10/13/2024 at 3:52 PM, a Pair of Socks said:

Im convinced LO condones the cheating.

It is tolerated. It is condoned. Take your pick Matt and LO are perfectly fine with cheats in the game. There is 0 transparency as to how many are banned and GMs dont care. Nothing short of not giving LO a penny and signing a petition for change would do anything and that might not even work

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

3 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

It is tolerated. It is condoned

Plausible Deniability.

in the case of a petition they would probly remove it n ban the player from forum. 

But I'm already on the No Spending Wagon. 

 I could write forever about why and what things and who make spending on this game

 very foolish. 

 joker weapons are under powered and not worth the tickets, oh they work great for the hackers.

But I'm not even spending the tickets I have because it's useless. 

Not to mention you run much faster without the useless guns.

 

 Won't buy anything until i have full sanction and LO supplied cheats. 

And a list of names of the Banned, When, why.

A list of the 'Flagged by Sard' whether banned or not.

 Cheats would only be used on other cheats, and at my discretion.

Not used to improve my k/d or give me gold. 

 Simply to trash the cheaters k/d.