BANNED SYMBOL LIST

[CookiePuss 5378]

29 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

which would be another reason why i don't know Little Orbits stance on it. 

but as for the confederate flag , its always been flown there.

I don't think you know what "always" means.

 

But I've long since passed the point of trying to keep you from making a fool of yourself.

 

So go nuts.

[Fenton 210]

Some people want to "Just push things" or "make the snowflakes mad" when they make symbols, or character customisation.

 

If your excuse for putting "1488" or "White Power" on the chest of your character and on your car is something as simple as that, you need to grow up.

 

As an aside, when I have done Soviet era Militia vehicles, I very specifically avoided the hammer-and-sickle because I wanted the attention on the overall effectiveness of livery and uniform and not on the sins of the regime.

[Inhotep 28]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:46 AM, chaoscody said:

What exactly is banned i and many others like to stretch what we make so throw us some specifics of whats allowed and not thanks shit like "no nazi symbols" is too vague

-All swastikas
-genitalia (dicks, pussies)

Dude everything punishable by law in real life is same in online life.  Just because you hide behind your little screen, doesnt mean you can do whatever the shit you wanna do to someone.

Swastikas are bannable in all countries. Showing surprise dicks too. The end.

 

If you have to use swastikas and genitalia out of all possibilities which are limitless in apb designing symbol section i got news for you.  GROW UP!!

[Haganu 104]

On 3/15/2020 at 9:35 AM, MartinPL said:

Who are those "many others" that you speak of? Who appointed you to be their spokesperson anyway?

 

If you are unable to tell what sort of symbols would be forbidden just from reading sentences like "no nazi symbolism", I'd bargain you're under the recommended age restriction for this game.

 

There are some things that you really should know are not okay to create. This sort of stuff is (or should have been) taught to you in school. If you've paid any attention whatsoever in your history classes, you should know about the things perpetrated by Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler's rule. It's absolutely baffling to me why you would need someone to explain to you why swastikas are not okay to have on your APB character.

 

The part about "other cultural swastikas" is a pointless argument. Yes, the swastika was originally a religious symbol, which was appropriated by Nazi Germany. The magnitude of these crimes against humanity was such that almost universally, all over the world, the swastika lost its original meaning, and in the international culture it's predominantly associated with the Nazis. Practically no one in the general public will defend you if you put a swastika on your clothes and try to say that it's "not the nazi swastika, but some other swastika of some other religion". This is not how we understand that symbol anymore. (Bonus points if you also accuse those punishing you of "religious discrimination" because at that point you're making it painfully obvious that you're just trying to start shit and be edgy.)

 

Your best guidance is your common sense, really. If it's a hate symbol, it's a no-go. If it's full-blown porn, it's a no-go. If it discriminates other people, it's a no-go. Believe it or not, this is an online multiplayer game, with real people on the other side of the screen. It's not about how you interpret it — it's about how everyone who sees it will interpret it.

Someone making sense? On this forum? No way!

 

On 3/15/2020 at 11:05 AM, CookiePuss said:

Actually given how many General Lees I've seen the Confederate flag is ok too.

Because people still tie the flag to the iconic car. The media hype hasn't broken that bond the way Nazi Germany broke the bond between the swastika and several religions using the symbol.

[Alani 475]

lol i love this discussion

 

too bad apb needs to cater to europeans.

 

otherwise you would be able to make whatever symbols you want

[CookiePuss 5378]

50 minutes ago, Haganu said:

Because people still tie the flag to the iconic car. The media hype hasn't broken that bond

Fun fact: The Dukes of Hazard was on the air 2 years LONGER than the confederacy existed.

 

[Ketog 1031]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:06 PM, ChristmasElf said:

Do we have genitals above the belt? I didnt know... can you point them?

true, didn't realise what i wrote there, or well, im gonna keep it this way

[Mitne 724]

On 3/15/2020 at 10:36 AM, MartinPL said:

a) are Nazi trash, b) are kids who don't comprehend the meaning of those symbols yet (nah, they know what this symbol means, that's why they use it), c) are edgy cretins who are doing it deliberately just to get some kicks out of it... and in all cases this is not acceptable and should be reported.

I never did that because I don't have mean bone in me but if you are a guy who mocks other people for their idiocies, then why shouldn't you with western recognized hate symbol? In 100 years it will be internet joke (if there will be internet), because people always colorize crimes over time.

Good example? Napoleon Bonaparte.
Essentially Hitler. Tried to subjegate whole Europe to France. Got a lot of cult of personality behind him (similiar to Hitler). Became emperor of France. Wars with him also took many years. We both as polish might think he is saviour for our nation after just losing independence. Just reminder what he did to rebelling Haiti. He wanted everyone under his boot. Rhine Confederation? Duchy of Warsaw? His creations to be only outposts, nothing more. And yet somehow I don't see napoleonic eagle as hate symbol?

 

So anyway, they do it for laughs. And if not, head check is in place. Who even follows ideologies of XIX-XX century in XXI? I though you people have heads?

Also another head check for people who call other, terms from XIX-XX century while beliving in ideologies from that period.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Mitne

[Inhotep 28]

6 minutes ago, Mitne said:

And yet somehow I don't see napoleonic eagle as hate symbol?

 

So anyway, they do it for laughs. And if not, head check is in place. Who even follows ideologies of XIX-XX century in XXI? I though you people have heads?

Because Napoleon didnt invent eagle. He literally stole same form of that Eagle from Roman empire to which he admired.

Same reason why he copied Arc de Triumph doors in Paris, like Rome had.

You cant ban Roman empire.

So no it wont be hate symbol.

Hitler however will remain banned along with nazis swastikas forever, because it was regime for systematically ethnically eliminating entire nations and races and almost succeeding in it.

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Inhotep

[Mitne 724]

2 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

Because Napoleon didnt invent eagle. He literally stole same form of that Eagle from Roman empire to which he admired.

Same reason why he copied Arc de Triumph doors in Paris, like Rome had.

You cant ban Roman empire.

So no it wont be hate symbol.

Hitler however will remain banned along with nazis swastikas forever, because it was regime for systematically ethnically eliminating entire nations and races and almost succeeding in it.

 

While napoleonic eagle have it roots from roman empire eagle, so does swastika have it roots from buddhism.

Nobody from what I presented invented this symbols and I never said that. They are borrowed and repurposed. It's called napoleonic eagle instead of roman eagle for a reason. Same as Hitler swastika instead of just swastika.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Mitne

[Inhotep 28]

3 minutes ago, Mitne said:

While napoleonic eagle have it roots from roman empire eagle, so does swastika have it roots from buddhism.

Nobody from what I presented invented this symbols and I never said that. They are borrowed and repurposed. It's called napoleonic eagle instead of roman eagle for a reason. Same as Hitler swastika instead of just swastika.

Dude... Napoleon didnt have concentration camps and executed 10 million people because of their race.

Napoleon was conqueror not executor.  People loved him, even some conquered countries loved him more than their own corrupted empires. 

Nobody loved hitler aside germans. Simple.

Its called napolenic eagle only because it was used by napoleon, not because its something more special than roman eagle.

Its literally identical to roman eagle. Only difference is that its missing sign of legions SPQR under it.  

Hitler did same thing.  His nazi eagles are copy of Roman empire.  Sieg heil hand greeting identical roman empire copy of ave cezare.

All autocrats knew history, and all tryharded to copy Roman empire with a reason, because it was the biggest known empire in history of mankind after Genghis khan empire based on horde.

Forbidden things are based on the part of history they involve.

Like it was nicely said upper,  dont insult intelligence of any civilized european citizen by trying to convince him or her that swastika on your t shirt represent buddhism. Just dont dude.

[Mitne 724]

14 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

Dude... Napoleon didnt have concentration camps and executed 10 million people because of their race.

Napoleon was conqueror not executor.  People loved him, even some conquered countries loved him more than their own corrupted empires. 

Nobody loved hitler aside germans. Simple.

Its called napolenic eagle only because it was used by napoleon, not because its something more special than roman eagle.

Its literally identical to roman eagle. Only difference is that its missing sign of legions SPQR under it.  

Hitler did same thing.  His nazi eagles are copy of Roman empire.  Sieg heil hand greeting identical roman empire copy of ave cezare.

All autocrats knew history, and all tryharded to copy Roman empire with a reason, because it was the biggest known empire in history of mankind after Genghis khan empire based on horde.

Forbidden things are based on the part of history they involve.

Like it was nicely said upper,  dont insult intelligence of any civilized european citizen by trying to convince him or her that swastika on your t shirt represent buddhism. Just dont dude.

I never said Hitler swastika represent buddhism either and not trying convince anyone just showing my own view on this. Get some grip.

Nobody loved Hitler, you say? Well...

Foreign SS troops. I don't have to say more.

And if you think Napoleon was virtually loved by everyone... seriously... check facts. Napoleonic army also did their atrocities.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Mitne

[Inhotep 28]

Just now, Mitne said:

I never said Hitler swastika represent buddhism either and not trying convince anyone just showing my own view on this. Get some grip.

Nobody loved Hitler, you say? Well...

Foreign SS troops. I don't have to say more. And you think Napoleon was virtually loved by everyone... seriously... check facts.

Napoleonic army also did their atrocities.

I got some grip, and i told you your grip is wrong. It was utterly bad comparison.  You said that in 100 years nazi swastika and hitler might be ok to show around like its ok to wear napoleon name on t shirt.

Napoleon name was never forbidden in modern times. Nor his insignia he copied from Roman empire. You are simply comparing apples and potatoes. Its not comparable dude get a grip.

Foreign SS troops never had same influence as german SS troops.  Foreign SS troops had no choice not to love Hitler, because they were otherwise executed along with their families.

Half of Vichy France didnt love hitler. They just understood if they dont, they are gone from this world.

EVERY ARMY did their atrocities!  Tell me which army DIDNT do atrocities ?? 

 

[CookiePuss 5378]

Imagine waking to to a discussion about Napolean vs Hitler on a video game forum.

 

What a time to be alive. 

[Inhotep 28]

11 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Imagine waking to to a discussion about Napolean vs Hitler on a video game forum.

 

What a time to be alive. 

Imagine interfering discussion just to comment how you dont want to be a part of that same discussion.  

What a guy.

(for which symbols theme can you get banned in this game > ask at forum of that game > swastikas > napolen ok hitler should be ok too > we are here > yw)

 

[CookiePuss 5378]

3 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

Imagine interfering discussion just to comment how you dont want to be a part of that same discussion.  

What a guy.

(for which symbols theme can you get banned in this game > ask at forum of that game > swastikas > napolen ok hitler should be ok too > we are here > yw)

 

Sorry, Mitne and I know each other... He's always starting the most bizarre conversations no one really asked for about history and politics.

I was only teasing him, I promise.

 

For what it's worth, my attitude is: LO owns the game, LO makes the rules. Don't like em? Don't play.

[Inhotep 28]

1 minute ago, CookiePuss said:

Sorry, Mitne and I know each other... He's always starting the most bizarre conversations no one really asked for about history and politics.

I was only teasing him, I promise.

 

For what it's worth, my attitude is: LO owns the game, LO makes the rules. Don't like em? Don't play.

Ok i fully agree with you there m8. 

Luckily LO makes the rules based on real life. In USA nazi swastika is forbidden as to most civilized world. 

[vsb 6171]

9 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

Ok i fully agree with you there m8. 

Luckily LO makes the rules based on real life. In USA nazi swastika is forbidden as to most civilized world. 

displaying a swastika is legal under US law, it’s technically protected by the first amendment

 

swastikas are banned because several european countries do have laws against displaying nazi imagery - apb has/had servers in those countries (specifically germany iirc) and was therefore subject to those laws

 

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Solamente
typo

[CookiePuss 5378]

12 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

In USA nazi swastika is forbidden

Actually, the flying of the Nazi flag is protected by the US Constitution's first amendment.

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by CookiePuss

[Inhotep 28]

2 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Actually, the flying of the Nazi flag is protected by the US Constitution's first amendment.

 

thats sick but thanks for info

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, Inhotep said:

thats sick but thanks for info

Here are police protecting Nazi demonstrators. This was just in July.

[Inhotep 28]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Here are police protecting Nazi demonstrators. This was just in July.

Even black police officers protect them...  WOW lol !!! 

This picture is sick liberalism... very distorted .... 

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, Inhotep said:

Even black police officers protect them...  WOW lol !!! 

This picture is sick liberalism... very distorted .... 

People take the constitution pretty seriously in the US.

Once a government starts policing beliefs, where does it end?

Or at least I think that's the logic.

[vsb 6171]

2 minutes ago, Inhotep said:

Even black police officers protect them...  WOW lol !!! 

This picture is sick liberalism... very distorted .... 

i think that would actually be conservative, they’re generally the ones all about following the constitution to the letter 

[Inhotep 28]

2 minutes ago, Solamente said:

i think that would actually be conservative, they’re generally the ones all about following the constitution to the letter 

Nah conservative would be that blacks are not even near skinheads.

Liberalism is that it went sooo far that nowadays black cops secure nazi white supremacy skinheads.