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I can understand that guy accusing you of deathreating. I too would expect rank 219 player to know that OCA-EW should not be fired in marksman mode.

Hope is restored.

KTTW pack has pre-modded ATAC. 150$ and a pre-modded gun...

I was playing and testing in OTW, complaining about ATAC "Patroller" being terrible there, posted it in OTW discussion. Hard to be the only person to bring something like that to an attention, while others only talk about N-TEC, shotguns and N-HVR.

Hope so, this is basically the reason behind me creating this thread, so there will be some discussion already for him to consider.

Some things need to be immediatly being looked at, ATAC "Patroller" for example. Discuss here https://forums.gamersfirst.com/topic/3312-atac-patroller-and-ir3-change/..

Thats not a good way to look at the problem tbh. My main issue is it is a gun from KTTW pack. It makes pack much less valuable, but the pack is the only way to get acc bound Charge Micro AND 4x4. I'm trying to create some discussion so pack can be changed or the gun altered.

It is very good with IR3. WTF are you talking about?

Added math to first post.

Patroller comes with a KTTW pack, I created a thread specificially to talk about Patroller. Come here and discuss I'm just trying to point some ACTUAL issues with IR changes and redirect it to that thread.

Actually with IR3 you can full-auto at 30meters and hit every shot. There is not much point to burst fire anymore.

Meta shift shouldn't push guns, which weren't meta even farther out of meta. Go buy yourself an ATAC "Patroller". I will see if you continue thinking IR changes were not rushed. Also, N-TEC is still meta.

I specificially created a thread about ATAC "Patroller", which is one of those guns which suffered from new IR3. There should be something done tbh about the whole ARMAS and mod change situation.

I would rather just put a different mod there like MP2 or other blue mod or just lock it to two mods.

It really doesn't have enough accuraccy to utilize extra range.

Hello, I'm one of many not-so-skilled gold players. While I personally enjoy new changes to IR, I think there is a problem with that version of ATAC. ATAC "Patroller" comes pre-slotted with HS3, IR3 and Mobility Sling New IR changes make precision oriented guns shine at long range while limiting their CQC capabilities. I think ATAC was never intended to be a precision oriented gun. IR change brakes the gun because it doesn't have accuracy to utilize extra range, and worsens its close- and mid- range performance. I don't own ATAC "Patroller". Why do I care? It comes with KTTW pack, which I wanted to buy, but this change stops me from doing so. I played on OTW with patroller while IR3 was +12m, -15% and it felt bad. Played with it now on FC, it is horrible, absolutely trash. Math: (stats from http://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_AssaultRifle_ATAC_Armas_Preset_FN1/). New range: 59 meters. Accuracy diameter at 10 meters: 46cm. Tap firing at 59 meters in marksman mode crouched: 46*0.5*59/10*0.9 = 122.13cm Player model is ~70cm diameter. That makes roughly a 57% chance for bullet to hit a target while tap firing and crouched. That is completely not reliable in my opinion. Thank you for listening.

While i think that changes to IR are pretty healthy for the game in general, I want to talk about ATAC "Patroller". It is a preslotted version with IR3. I don't think ATAC was intended as a precision weapon. Usually you spray with it and at the moment IR3 just gives a small benefit of doing tap/burst fires at long ranges. I think the change to IR3 makes this version of ATAC really awkward to use. I think there should be a change to mods this version comes with, if we are sticking to new IR mod. P.S. i was thinking about buying KTTW pack, and ATAC "Patroller" is included in it. Don't think I want to buy a pack with a weapon I won't use.

No the nerf is fine, as it is There wasn't much thought put into the nerf. Are you fine with the nerf because you are fine with IR3 being removed from the game?

Игроки с угрозой золото могут зайти на серебро и золото. Игроки с угрозой серебро могут зайти на бронзу, серебро и золото. Игроки с угрозой зелень и бронза могут зайти на зелень, бронзу, серебро и золото. Игроков в игре не так много, чтобы сделать разграничение более жёсткое. Разработчики занимаются данной проблемой и скорее всего через несколько месяцев мы увидим более продуманную систему подбора игроков в матч. Хорошо, если бы всегда было ЧЕСТНО, но всегда будут игроки сильнее тебя даже с твоим уровнем угрозы.

I like that idea a lot. I don't mind people moving the item a little to a better location, but cars break those missions a bit. Also armored truck missions are not enjoyable imho, it would be better to just disable them or make truck atleast 40% slower in the final stage.

Consider that by knowing weapon stats we can faster learn the new way to use weapons, leading to players playing better with them and giving a better feedback.

Oh I didn't realize there where 2 versions of the weapon - I'll try the other one in this case when I've got time The gun is different between A and B districts. The B side features more recoil per shot and less zoom in marksman (don't know if there are more differences).

Can someone DM me link to the vid?

I will work as a translator (yeah, i'm just increasing my post count). Today I launched the game and was surprised by the fact that my crosshair automatically moves up into the ceiling. I don't have any macros, besides rebinds [not sure if he is talking about in-game bindings or external]. What should I do?