Excalibur!

Getting a lucky shot is something bad... ok lmao.

My argument isn't that using HVR makes you not a good player. My point is that you don't have to be a good player to do well. There's a key difference here. A gun with that amount of impact should only have that impact when used well, in my opinion. Now everyone has their moments of course, but overall I feel the HVR rewards bad usage of it too well. You are just saying the same... NO, you miss a single bullet and you are mostly dead. How does that compensate being bad with it? Nerfing its damage at cqc or whatever just makes it WORST.

My post was eaten... cant quote @VanilleKeks Why would it matter? Its really tiring those kind of arguments "you use x gun, you are not good players and you dont deserve to have fun or good score". I like those learning players that choose powerful gun to assist their team. It reminds me to me when i was silver (old silver, not today silver) and wasnt really good, but would pick nhvr in waterfront to help my team as best as i could... good times. It made my gameplay funnier and useful, totally not a negative experience.

And you are just like upset that an average player can do well? For me is an incentive for that player to keep doing well and try in the future other guns... and probably more fun having a challenge? So any weapon that is labeled as "easy" for newer players should be nerfed because they dont deserve to have fun in the game if they are not super skilled. Interesting reasoning.

Nope, i do not main nhvr and its easy for me or any good player to take down quickswitcher or simply snipers. You-got-tools-to-counter-it.

And if quickswitch takes no skill why i barely ever see a quickswitcher as mvp? Or any other guy doing outstandingly well? Or low skilled players ABUSING it considering its SOOOOOO easy? Well I wasn't referring to quickswitching, I should have mentioned that probably. Even when you leave quickswitching out of the discussion the HVR has still too much value for the effort required. Regarding quickswitching, whether it takes skill or not might be an interesting discussion but for me quickswitching is a gimmick that completely ruins the intended use of the weapon. Sometimes gimmicks in games are good, sometimes bad. I'd say hvr quickswitch is the latter. After playing so long how am i the only one not seeing any problem with this gun more than its mobility being too fast? After the movement buff people were allowed to chase down taged targets and even jumpshot. THAT would be my only complain about nhvr. -- I somehow remember who started with this suggestion about reducing nhvr damage in cqc, and MY sugestion is that they should go back to play overwatch.

Good players being still good is almost irrelevant to the discussion really. The point being made is that you don't have to be a good player to take someone out of the fight when using an HVR. If you really want good players to shine then you should be for making the HVR take more skill, shouldn't you? Because when you do that the actual good players will shine even brighter. No i think not. Quickswitching takes skill. Show me a single newer player, or silver quickswitching that is being a serious trouble to the point to nerf to the ground a gun... or change the gameplay because of him. People will cheap blame their bad gameplay on anything, and nhvr was allways easy target. Example in cqc: killed by 2 ocas in a blink... well nothing to do, i steped bad. Tagged by sniper then killed by oca... the problem is that nhvr is too op...

The point is that good players will still be doing good with any weapon, and newer players will have a lot of troubles more than experienced one, much much more. At the end most players complaining at quickswitching never did well. I can count with half hand the people that are extremely good with quickswitching and had absurd scores compared to those who use any other automatic guns. Lets stop stupidity, please.

Thats an issue for low skilled players only.

That is not allways viable for quickswitching, you wont win 100% of the time. There are faster killing weapons and more efficient for cqc. Show me you killing multiple targets quickswitching compared to a pointman gun. You can achieve that with pointman like, pmg? Ogre? Not with nhvr.

Is not matter to switching to anything more viable, is not destroying something because of a few players. I cant even remember the last time ive been killed by quickswitching.... the last time i seen people trying to quickswitch were doing pretty bad. -- Why no making apb funnier instead of more frustrating? Reduce even more the ttk, remove spawn times. Why allways thinking of nerfing? Just lift that negative thinking for once.

Is it normal that OTW downloads so slow?

There are other snipers... ISSR would probably take over as meta. Or maybe they prefer nhvrs to use yukon as secondary and kill them even faster than quick switching... like some are already doing, because quickswitching already represent a risk if you miss. But serious question, who is in charge of balance?

You can still move fast. You can still spam granades. You still have your very low ttk for cqc to kill a sniper... etc etc. Nerf everything of that to balance it to the nerfed nhvr (?). Any sense there? Nope, because it makes no sense the other way around already. Lucky those who got scout and will quickswitch with it to role up the sniper role I see you crying because everyone will use them instead of nhvr. Whats next? Cutting in half osmaw, opgl, volcano damage? Make it vehicle blowers only? So the silvers can enjoy their gameplay? OH dont forget cars, they still killing rolling you over with one single movement.

But if you fail a single bullet you are dead. That you gain skills is not the players fault, you dont need to punish them. Ive been playing planetside that has most everything that you named on their snipers... you will get headshoted by an experienced sniping player anyways. Awful merging post: If they are going to nerf nhvr so we are finally nerfing everything that been added for counter it right? Lets see what the "EXPERIENCED" players have to say on this matter.

If that's your opinion then that's fine, however, I'd say that most of the experienced / top players of the game disagree. Even now the HVR deals 850 damage which takes you out of the game for 15 seconds if you want to fully regen, it's a point and click weapon with 100% accuracy and arguably the easiest gun to use at the same time. Dont get tagged then. Learn to avoid it, thats the sweet of the game. Its YOUR opinion who is experienced player and their opinion on the matter. EDIT: ANYWAYS, its ridiculous to change a weapon damage like this. What is this, archery? What a disgust.

It's a good thing for the game, the hvr has been too versatile and overpowered for too long, doing this forces you to be stationary to deal damage and therefore kills quick switching (for the most part) No its not. You dont have any problem killing a nhvr that is slow, but modifying the damage is ridiculous, absolutly. This is silver changing gameplay at best. This is how i kill a quick switcher: see guys who use nhvr; when facing them and getting hit by their secondary hide to fully recover with ca3; rush them with nade; they die. Is not hard at all. There is no way to reduce the nhvr damage.

Way to kill a weapon... i cant believe they will actually do this. Who would aprove anything like this? Like seriously.

LOL they really did that change to nhvr?

No, players need to play not to police. Everyone knew that /report did nothing and it was a frustration flush for some.

And they will find out that even using the most powerful guns they still sucking and cant find an excuse to nerf any weapon that kills them.

You can easily make a million playing fc WITHOUT prem for about several hours a week. Heres the trick: use cars with no cost, use ammo and granades wisely.

What is that? like an expensive version of patootie?

Dont compare apb with your life. Things in this game can still be fixed.

How they dare to take a single slot.