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Till when will the sale keep going?

I believe this is a topic LO's lawyer(s) will have to check. Open-sourcing codebases is a complicated issue, but you can most definitely sort out an agreement with stakeholders if they believe it is for the mutual benefit of the parties involved. Selling the IP does not necessarily mean that open-sourcing is out of the question, nor the other way around. Our argument here won't result to anything unless LO takes open-sourcing into consideration and answers our questions. I'm proposing open-sourcing as a solution to progressing the game's development. The legalities behind it is another issue LO will have to inform us about.

Just open source the game at this point. It's a sinking ship, you got nothing to lose. APB has had enough media coverage for angel open source devs to chime in and try to save it.

Matt, After reading the post (supposedly titled "Next Steps"), it doesn't sound like those are next steps at all... The post is the same yadda this issue yadda that issue... The community has already lost hope in having some sort of engine upgrade and I believe most people are over it by now. We do want the engine upgrade, but the state of the game now is far beyond a performance improvement to get the players back. What the most of the remaining community now needs is: 1- Some sort of proactivity regarding cheaters and stopping the questionable community rules which protect cheaters from being called out and banned. 2- Some new content to play for. Whether it's new contacts, new weapons, reverting all those horrible weapon balances, matchmaking improvements, etc. 3- Keeping the community always updated. All the past years you've been striving to satisfy new players, but you forgot the existing community while doing that, now all what is left is a few players from the veteran community. Another step in the wrong direction by trying to cater to new players will be the final straw that broke the camel's back. Please, just for once, listen to the community. Drop it with the engine rabbit hole, for a while. Give us new content. Revert the bad weapon changes. Ban the cheaters and stop it with the idealistic community standards in a continuously dying community, your approach already proved to be unsuitable. Hope you read this and for once trust the only people left.

Which players?

I'd be happy to join your taxi business, if you have health insurance it would be a plus since I seem to get into a lot of trouble while playing. (IGN: clubboba)

Here's your issue then xD The 24G2 never goes below 180 USD as far as I know, if you got it for $100 then it probably had something fucked up before you bought it. Make the most of it though it's a great monitor anyway. I hope you find a solution soon bro

I thought that the 7700hq would be as powerful as a Ryzen 3600, but yeah you're right there is a noticeable difference. And what you're describing does indeed sound like a typical CPU bottleneck. And I can't stress enough how much getting a PC will be a good purchase, but the GPU prices nowadays ain't helping. If the NVIDIA control panel shows the option of turning on Gsync, try to turn it on and see what happens, it most likely will work fine and it's better than Freesync, I have an AOC 24G2, if that's the one you got too I would highly suggest you request an RMA especially when it comes to dead pixels. In my country all their IPS 144Hz monitors have a remarkable 3-year 0 dead pixel guarantee and I've heard they replace your monitor if it shows any signs of dead/stuck pixels without any hassle. Someone above suggested stuck pixel fixing video loops, but honestly I wouldn't rely on them too much. I've had a few IPS panel phones get stuck pixels and those color changing loops never helped at all.

I also have my 144Hz AOC monitor set to 120Hz because of a stupid driver issue with my AMD GPU that screws with the fan controller if I set the monitor to 144Hz. What I find weird is that you're not hitting 120 because my RX 570 8GB is identical in most games to a 1060 6GB and I easily hit 120 fps on high-to-max settings on a Ryzen 3600 and 16GB 3200Mhz RAM. I suspect you have a software issue since your CPU and GPU should easily reach 120 fps unless you're thermally throttling. I would also suggest you check if G-sync works with your monitor since you have an Nvidia GPU because Freesync (even Freesync Premium like I have) sucks a$$. Till you try to find a solution, I would suggest you turn off frame smoothing since I found it to have no advantage whatsoever and just increases CPU load and causes stutters and frame de-sync. I've compared it being on/off in isolation of any other variable on my machine and it just ruined my experience especially when I would suddenly move my mouse, it would cause annoying frame stutters and minor increased input lag.

If you have adaptive sync, then I would suggest you leave the FPS bounce around. Playing above 60 fps is such a major upgrade and I wouldn't recommend playing a game like APB, especially with such a huge skill curve unless you're playing over 80-100 fps at least.

Every time I see a weapon changelog from you guys I seriously get furious and remember I shouldn't let it get on my nerves because this game is too dead anyway.. Why does every "balance" patch have to be SO aggressive?? And why are you guys trying to completely eliminate a meta, this will never happen. Every game has a meta. You should only try to minimize the difference between the meta and the non meta. Every patch just takes the current meta weapon and nerfs it, rinse and repeat. This will never end. Please, just revert all weapon changes since you've started tinkering with weapons (except the med spray change) and start on a clean slate, and take it slow and carefully, you just don't do such major nerfs every time.

Very respectable opinion. I agree with your points, it's just the last bit of hope we have, so like you said, they should at least consider giving people the access to help and hoping for the best...

After reading the last few engine updates, it's clear that at this point Matt is coding through the engine upgrade by himself. Any software engineer/programmer would know that it's usually infeasible to handle an executive job as well as developing a game that's broken in so many ways. And given the endless amount of issues that still have to be solved, it would be impossible for Matt to finish this himself, and I suspect that financials aren't going as planned so hiring a paid team might not be an option. So maybe the only option left is turning APB into a crowd-developed project. It would be great if we have a discussion with Matt or some of the moderators if this is a feasible option in terms of legal/technical/other standpoints. I understand that games being crowd-developed is sometimes challenging especially regarding sharing source code (which can cause a huge number of legal/vulnerability issues). But it would be great if this option is taken into consideration, especially that I'm sure that there are hundreds of experienced programmers ready to help save this game together.

Nope not confusing them, I used both for quite a while. I believe both weapons are balanced very well (or at least used to be). But the ntec offered a little more punishing power when you learn to tap shoot, while the STAR was a great weapon for people to start learning tap shooting without being pushined so hard by accuracy loss. But the Ntec used to also be a jack of all trades, just when players start tap firing it and not spraying it, which I believe is a perfectly well thought out drawback. The whole idea of LO nerfing the Ntec was that it was so much of a jack of all trades and a master of none, to the point that they wanted to push it into a niche, and you can see Matt Scott talk about that a lot in previous weapon change updates, and that's a pretty unwise decision imo.

I'm still amazed LO keeps breaking the Ntec (and its variants) rather than accepting that it was one of the very few weapons that have been built properly, and that the other weapons should be equally as usable as the Ntec in their own ways. How I see it is that the Ntec-5 (used to be) the jack of all trades but a master of none, and the Ntec-7 being very close to that with just a *slight* disadvantage in closer ranges and a *slight* advantage in longer ranges and looking way cooler (imo) than the Ntec-5. The recent changes now is revolved around breaking the Ntec and trying to push it into a niche were it doesn't belong and where there are other variants of weapons that excel in those niches. Like how the Obeya now demolishes the Ntec-7 and how the FAR variants easily defeats the Ntec-5 in medium ranges and the Whisper now being the go to for closer ranges. I understand that the Ntec was the meta for quite a while, and I believe it is because the weapon was actually consistent and usable, unlike so much other weapons that I really question its existence in the first place. And because of that, LO was keen on nerfing the meta in order to allow newer players to be able to join the game and have fun, but lets be real here. How many new players actually try apb and stick to it even after such changes keep coming over and over? How many games have metas and still have many players joining the game and having fun and be able to grow on the skill gap scale? Is removing metas actually a significant change compared to better game performance, game marketing, gfx improvements, better matchmaking, server performance, etc..? Especially in a game which breaking the weapon variety stability will only piss off current players but is insignificant to newer players because they don't feel compelled to the game (or don't even know about the game) due to a million other reasons. Aside from actually a few wise decisions regarding weapon changes, I think you guys did enough damage and stop tinkering with the weapons hoping that new players would appreciate such changes.

If the Ursus is gonna get nerfed and treated like a long range weapon, I'd like to see the range/dmg to be buffed up to be suitable for such use, because with the given changes, it will literally be rendered useless. Other long range weapons like the Obeya will be a much better option in this case since the Ursus will eventually be forced to be used as a semi-auto rifle with such stats but just suffer from inferior range/dmg. I would actually love to see weapons buffed to the Ntec-5 & Ntec-7 usability, rather than nerfing everything. The Ursus is a BALANCED weapons, and other weapons should be balanced up to the Ursus' and Ntec-5's standards and usability. Please LO, stop tinkering with unneeded changes, especially with weapons that have gained notorious reputation, not because of them being overpowered, but actually because some people put enough time and effort into mastering such weapons.

I'd defintely disagree on the placement of the Bloody Mary, this thing is deadly when used right (not letting it bloom) and is the absolute best finisher in the game imo. But hey, that's just because of my preferences, which is why I'm against putting weapons into "tiers" as I'm sure a lot of people have mastered some other weapons and can make pretty good use of them. However, some weapons deserve the F and E tier, as weapon "balances" have nerfed so much weapons which makes them worse in every aspect possible and do not excel in any playstyle. Anyway, it's nice of you sharing your thoughts about what you consider good and bad weapons according to your style, which should always be welcomed.

That would be amazing, since the infinite degree of customization makes it a potentially very compelling experience for car lovers. However in that case, we would need reworked mechanics like you said, but also a huge arsenal of cars. Me being someone who loves car games, I love trying and customizing many cars of completely different tastes.

Yeah, that event made me earn my permanent Joker CR5 (w/ IR3 & HS3) which is till this day my favorite and most-used weapon. Considering that the driving experience in APB is not its strongest point by a long shot, I don't think it will. Every time I let one of my friends try out APB, their first or second comment is "hey what the f*** is wrong with cars in this game". I honestly believe that the only way of saving APB and Matt Scott not losing a sh*t ton of money is an engine upgrade, fixing game performance, better matchmaking for new & existing players, and a Steam (proper) relaunch of the game. Otherwise it will be just be money spent wrong. LO MUST hear the feedback directly from players instead of focusing on "strategic" thinking like G1 did. Strategic planning can do wonders, but if the game gets back on its knees, otherwise the game engine will be out when the graphics are too outdated for its time (which already is starting to age bad).

yeah it was get some team kills and u earn Bullshark and FFA R&D III JMBs. The reward was nice, but the objective was stupid.

That's one of the best pieces of news I've heard about APB in a long time.. I don't get the point of this to be honest. This events' main purpose is to give people reason to come back to the game; therefore, allowing you to find people to do those missions with. Your analogy of "If I can't get it, no one should" is just wrong in so many ways I have no energy/time to elaborate. I hope you understand my point though.

Would you like to have those weekly activities that we had in the days of (ehmm..) G1, where you used to do a certain set of objectives and you'd get in return a Joker Tickets/skin/cash/JMBs/etc..? It made me always come back for APB.. Let us know your opinion about them.

I hope we can have gun games every week till the quarantine is over. IMO it's the best event that has happened to APB in a while due to the Joker Tickers rewards.

You know what you're right, after rethinking again, yes the Nano is not special, it just happens to be a good secondary for people with horrible ping so you can just spam spray it. But the Ursus, I feel like it's dead accurate on its first shot, and the increased damage makes a difference against players with fragile or when you wanna finish someone off with your secondary after dealing some damage. That's why the Ursus is in such high demand, because if it was for looks/sounds it wouldn't have been worth 100k in the MP.. And I can see the solution you're proposing to be the ideal case, but there would be 3 problems with that. Previous buyers of weapons would give LO sh*t for that. The MP would be nearly rendered useless, as weapon trade is the most used feature of the MP. Current owners of the weapons already transferred the weapons they needed for the character they're maining for the time being, so an account-bound version wouldn't be much of a compensations for them. I think it needs more thinking to find the least destructive solution because there will always be an angry mob after each change, including better cheat detection or an engine upgrade (lol as if it will every come before this game is dead)...

I completely agree with you. Although I highly disagree on the Ursus and Nano. The ursus gives the milliseconds edge you need over other rifle in medium combat, it makes a big difference. And the Nano is just the best fool proof gun out there, it's NEARLY a primary weapon to be honest. However, yes "legendaries" should have much more unique and balanced mechanics as you said. Mind explaining why so instead of just spreading toxicity? I don't understand, I always try to be decent with you, yet you're always just spreading negativity in the replies..