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  1. After a whole bunch of brainstorming, creative writing, trying to come up with a design that's not too flashy and not too bland at the same time... eh, it's worth a shot. I wouldn't exactly call myself a visual artist, and it probably shows. Introducing: Sayaka Hayford Biography: (Warning - it's pretty damn long.) === Some things that I wanted to share or say "by the way": For the character I'm submitting, I chose a name that's different from the actual name of the character (lshiyama - the I at the start is a lowercase L). The name "Sayaka" is a nod to Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!, an anime that I haven't even watched outside of clips that a friend of mine sent me (seriously, I suck at watching shows, animated or not. I don't watch anything :V ), but it also has a character with the same name whose life also largely revolves around money. I initially wanted to wing it with the character — as in, create an outfit and an appearance and maybe then write around that. My plan didn't work out, so I switched the order of operation and I started with the biography — which helped me with making tweaks to my existing character (since hey, she was already pretty much "there" if we're talking about the way I would imagine the character would look like). The biography was written as if the character was an actual contact in the Joker Store. I tried to make the character's description fit into APB stylistically and "organically", imitating the game's existing writing style as best as I could. (If the character doesn't actually score anything in the contest, then oh well, I guess it'll just be a piece of fan fiction :V ) The "original" colour scheme I wanted to go with didn't really include any Joker colours; the shirt was monochrome and the trousers had an olive hue. The kneepads with faction logos copied from Ophelia, however tacky or overused they may be at this point, serve as a visual gag/representation of how the character has sold (and, if chosen to be a Joker Employee, will sell) items to both factions in San Paro. I tried to make the character stand out a bit, but not so much as to draw all the attention. The key idea was that this is a salesperson for a successful company in the city; they need a visually appealing uniform to stand out just enough in a crowd filled with... "eccentric" people ('cause let's face it, there are some "visually loud" characters and outfits out there) ...but not stand out too much. While designing the outfit I also tried to stay away from overusing the Joker logo. Speedball has the excuse of being a sportsman, so naturally he would have a visually popping outfit filled with colours and logos of his sponsors everywhere — Hayford is basically a local community dealer gone corporate. Not exactly a poster girl for advertisements, eh? Best of luck to all the participants!
  2. So I'm thinking of participating, and the way I went about the creative process was to write a biography for my character first, and then try to create a character that would match the description of someone who had these life experiences. My assumption is that if someone provides a bio, it would be used in the game itself. (Unless I'm mistaken, that is.) If that's the case, then, uh... I may have ended up writing a biography that's 1254 words long. Is there a word/character limit on the descriptions? Should I get to cutting down some text or something? I'm pretty sure the text I've written exceeds the longest bios in the game (which, if memory serves me right, would belong to the Specialists).
  3. If you remember that those songs used to be in APB's default music library, you are entitled to a veteran's discount.
  4. No real objections here from me. The progression really slows down after a certain point, but the difference in time spent levelling up each tier is massive. Tier 1 contacts can be done in one day, Tier 2 can take several days, Tier 3 turns into weeks and so on... There are several ways to earn money in this game besides through playing missions. Fight Club is an almost mindless gamemode designed almost specifically for that; you walk forward and shoot people (and sometimes do objectives) to earn cash and Joker Tickets which you can turn into permanent gear by spending them in the Joker Distribution point in the Social District. If you're more of a creative type, you can sell your things to other players on the Marketplace or through direct trading. Back when we didn't have a trading system, I would sell T-shirts to other players for 25k APB$ each. With the 20% tax on the Marketplace, it only took 5 sales for me to turn a profit of about 100k APB$. I would just like to point out that this is not what "pay to win" means. P2W is an advantage which is unique to a paying player, but realistically unavailable to a non-paying player. The last such thing in the game was the difference in orange mod cooldowns — players with Premium had their mod cooldowns reduced by 50%. Once Little Orbit took over the game, the cooldowns have been unified across the board, so now everyone can use their mods equally often. Gear availability is only partially limited to contact progression. Contacts mostly get you preset variants, which come with already installed mods, some of which may not even be things that you would want to use on a given gun. You can unlock slotted variants of weapons independent of rank progress, by levelling up Roles. You basically have to kill people with a weapon category to get open-slotted versions of weapons in that category. If you're interested in skipping the role grind, you can always buy 3-slotted versions of guns on Armas. It's not paying to win, it's paying to skip the grind. With some cosmetic exceptions, you can obtain most gameplay content — weapons, mods, vehicles — with in-game currencies. The obvious outlier would be the 4x4 Vegas, since its Joker Store price tag is pretty steep, and the car itself is currently considered a cornerstone of the meta.
  5. The subject of available answers and their wording is one that I've tried to think about, but I couldn't come up with any better ones. I personally see the answers as a scale between underperforming and outperforming other options in a weapon's category. If you want a more detailed interpretation of the answers and what I had in mind while choosing them, they are as follows: [Unusable] Straight downgrade — The weapon is noticeably set back by some factor(s) due to which it's significantly outperformed by most alternatives within its category. [Suboptimal] Good but could be buffed — On its own, the weapon is not bad, though it might lose in some situations compared to weapons that would normally serve the same purpose. [Balanced] Fine as it is — The weapon has no greater issues that set it back or put it above other weapons. The legendary mod overall works as a sidegrade, not an upgrade or a downgrade. [Excellent] Good but could be nerfed — The weapon is more or less fine as it is, though it might have some individual aspects that could potentially and/or not urgently need reining in. [Broken] Has no downsides — The weapon outperforms most alternatives within its category. Taking it over its non-legendary counterpart or its alternatives is a straight upgrade. Arguably we could have gone with a 4-point scale, ditching the fourth option and having it go "Straight Downgrade" to "Underpowered" to "Balanced" to "Straight Upgrade" — but that would leave us with a scale that has 3 "negative" options and 1 positive. I've asked people in the unofficial APB Discord and there weren't any objections to these answers. I'm sure the next survey could be improved in some ways, one of which would be the answers made available to people who engage in the survey.
  6. We've had a survey like this a good while ago... but a lot of time has passed since. In that time, we've had three additions to the legendary weapon pool, some changes and fixes here and there — might be worth it to assemble our opinions on the current state of the legendary weapons! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScEnlWK6BGs4WdgT3F5xozNPbWc0SELvR9eEUKawOsSs6FLZw/viewform?usp=sf_link One obvious change to the survey is the removal of the "No opinion" option since it didn't really indicate anything. For reference, the results of the old survey can be found here.
  7. Unless one is viewbotting, that is. The usual telltale sign is high viewership numbers and non-existant chat engagement. Think 100 viewers and not a single person saying anything in chat. Raw numbers can easily be faked. Just saying.
  8. Firstly, If you have to nitpick for a specific definition of a word to make your point, it probably isn't too sound of a point. Secondly, it's a description of what? Dictionary definitions explain the word's meaning, not how offensive it is. I asked you several times to explain what about the word made it worse than — for example — jokes about sodomy (Gumball's lines), implications of incest (the word "motherfvcker") or dehumanization (the word "b!tch"). I asked about the pragmatics of this word being worse than its alternatives. You were unable to provide me with such explanation for several posts in a row. Thirdly: no, you didn't answer it. Had you answered the question, I would not have written those previous posts. Hell, I wouldn't have written this post. I've rephrased and dumbed down the question several times in order to make it easier for you to understand it and answer it — I cannot possibly simplify it any further and yet you still cannot provide me with an answer. You missed your chance, bud. I'm out. Write this one down as a "win" in your little notebook or something if it makes you feel better. I don't have the energy to keep hoping that you'll answer simple questions anymore.
  9. I don't think you understand the question posed to you. Either that or you are knowingly dancing around the act of answering it for reasons I am not aware of. I cannot simplify this any further, so please do actually answer me this time around. This is the last time I'm asking for an explanation and I'm not going to participate in this any further if I don't get a concise answer from you this time around. What exactly makes the use of that specific word so much worse than the use of any other curse word?
  10. As @Solamente pointed out, anyone labelling themselves with that word probably doesn't have a single issue with it. Your point is...? I don't understand where you're getting the impression that I'm doing this for internet points. It's either you projecting onto others (again) or you repeating falsehoods (again) hoping that they will eventually become real when repeated enough times. All of these questions are related to the big question that you refuse to answer. I thought that I posed it in a simple enough manner, but I suppose I'll have to rephrase it again since you're so insistent on deflecting the argument instead of answering it: out of all possible insults, what makes that single specific word so bad compared to its alternatives?
  11. Alright, at this point you're just projecting ',:| Honestly, reading your posts feels like regardless of what you're told by other people, you're just repeating the same thing over and over, worded slightly differently. You still haven't addressed the question from earlier: what makes that single specific word so bad, compared to other things? You can't say that "we already discussed the mature content of APB" and think that'll let you move on without addressing the questions posed to you. You've outright refused to specify what's so evil about this specific word compared to the others. "Fuck" is okay with you. You don't seem to mind the word "b!tch". You don't have a gripe with Gumball joking about sodomy. What makes the word "wh0re" such an unspeakable offense? Is it that the term is "gendered" (which it, by definition, isn't)? In that case, why do you not have any qualms towards the word "b!tch"? You're presenting an argument that the word should not be in the game because it is "very derogatory" — but 1) there are already other derogatory terms and expressions in the game, some of which are arguably worse; 2) you refuse to explain what exactly makes it so unforgivable, instead resorting to repeating that "it's bad" and never elaborating why. You're supposing that the title goes against the Terms of Service — but 1) as you've been repeatedly proven, it isn't; 2) you do not decide what is in breach of it and what isn't. You are arguing in bad faith. You don't want a debate, you want your opinion to be enforced as law. Is this your first time participating in an online discussion? Did you expect everyone to absentmindedly fall in line and agree with everything you're saying? Or that if you just repeat the same thing enough times with slightly altered wording or insult people enough times, you'll automatically win?
  12. Your opinion =/= fact. It's a frequent misconception on the Internet, I know. There is a sincerely deep conversation about linguistics, pragmatics and practical use of language to be had here — for example, about how words only have a meaning when they are contextualized, or about how pragmatics of a discussion influence the reception of the word and how insulting words become not insulting in specific contexts and situations depending on the relations between the speaker and the listener, or about how a word conventionally considered a curse word becomes an expression or exclamation when not aimed at any target — but I'm afraid there's no point in having it here. Not in this environment, not at this time, not with someone unwilling to listen. You were told in this thread already — several times, in fact — that the "offending" word in the title that is the subject of this thread, "wh0re", is not aimed at anyone but the user. It does not breach the Terms of Service because there's no rule against being a pottymouth, just against insulting other players. The word is "derogatory in other cultures"? Poles use the word "kurwa" (one of its meanings is, surprise surprise, "wh0re") very liberally. When someone slams their finger while trying to hammer in a nail, they'll scream "KURWA!" just like English speakers would shout "FUCK!" in pain. If you're a grown person, you should be able to figure out that the Pole is not calling for a prostitute to come to his aid, nor is the English speaker in sudden need for intercourse. Like I said earlier: pragmatics. Oh, and since you're so eager to reference "the start of this thread"... The "think of the children" defense is 1) a cheap cop-out, 2) non-applicable here because children aren't even allowed to play this game.
  13. I'm afraid you are not the authority in deciding who understood your post and who didn't. Last time I checked, the word "fuck" was pretty derogatory. So was "b!tch". So was "motherfvcker". So was sodomizing animals. The first one is used several times in the game, the middle two are dispatch briefings (APB Reloaded\APBGame\Localization\INT\Subtitles_FEM.int), the last one is a quote from Gumball. I ask again: exactly why are you singling out that specific word as especially offensive? You didn't address the point though. And it's not that you skipped it — you disregarded it, presumably thinking that it means it's invalid and that you don't have to address it anymore. Titles literally don't target other players, aside from the two "I'm With Stupid" ones you can get from Joker Distribution in Social (which barely even work as "insults" because of how childish they are and because of how only its user will be able to see the intended result since the titles are always pointed towards a player's camera). And let's just get it out of the way: if you fear being on the receiving end of an "I'm With Stupid -->" title, you should probably get off the internet and seek adult supervision. Titles are not invitations nor licenses to use words within them. They are labels and self-descriptors you can put on yourself for additional self-expression in the game. You can put the "Idiot" title on yourself to additionally taunt people about how they were killed by someone who openly calls themselves stupid. You can put the "Lukewarm" title on yourself as a bit of comedic self-deprecation about your appearance. You can put the "Candy Wh0re" title on yourself to express how you fucking love candy so much that you'd engage in sexual acts for them. You choose if a title is to be applied to you. If you get hung up on a single specific definition of one of the words used in a title, 1) there's a chance you don't meet the age requirement of this game, 2) you're forgetting that you can always just not use the title. It's not even tangentially related to following the Terms of Service because no one could come reasonably close to breaching the ToS by putting that title on themselves (because which rule are you even breaking? "no use of derogatory language on yourself"?); neither is this title's existence a breach of Terms of Service, because this is not a situation where an individual is insulting or otherwise bullying another individual. To repeat the question from earlier: why are you singling out the word "wh0re" as especially offensive? You omitted point 9.4.3., which explicitly states that determining whether something breaches this is left to "Little Orbit's absolute discretion". They have the final say in whether something is defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, harmful, harassing, hateful, invasive of another's privacy, sexually explicit, offensive, or denigrating to another person's reputation or social standing. You should know that if you agreed to the Terms of Service. And clearly having a self-deprecative joke as a title (which isn't even forced upon anyone) is not any of these things. If you don't like that, you can always not participate in this game or its community anymore. Lying by omission to prove your point is not the way to go. ...towards other people. Exactly which word in "Candy Wh0re" is an insult to another person? I feel like you're reading into this title a bit too much and trying to present it as more malicious than it really is or could be, presumably in a bout of self-righteousness or in pursuit of those sweet, sweet internet karma points.
  14. Just out of curiosity, why did you choose to respond to only that specific part of my post? Did you accidentally or knowingly skip the part where I point out that this is one of many mature themes in this M-rated game?
  15. The geographical region of Cambridge does not hold any monopoly on definitions existing in the English language, nor does the University of Cambridge. In fact, there is no single governing entity deciding upon how a language operates because this is not how languages work. Depending on cultural events and transformations, words may change their meaning (sometimes through misinterpretation by people) or gain new ones altogether. For your own sake, please don't cite dictionaries alone — the only thing it does is make it glaringly obvious that you have a surface level comprehension of the subject. Dictionaries are not the be-all-end-all guidelines to language because of the reasons mentioned earlier. They exist to categorize words and define/describe them based on their use in human culture. That's what lexicographers do — they observe the use of language and write it down. This is why we've had that shitshow a few years ago when Merriam-Webster listed one of the definitions of the word "literally" as "figuratively" (so the exact opposite). That's not some evil plot to change language, it's literally (pun intended) what happened to the word because of its misuse by humans. Going back to the original point: no, nothing in the word "wh0re" indicates or implies female gender of its subject. Neither does the word "prostitute", for that matter. Wikipedia offers a streamlined explanation of the word's etymology: Why do you think that prostitution is sometimes called "the oldest profession in the world"? The act itself has a history spanning pretty much all of human civilization and, because of several social mechanisms, has been most commonly associated with women. However, it is not exclusively the domain of that sex. You don't have to be female to be able to prostitute yourself. By the way, just to clear things up: the order of definitions in a dictionary does not imply their importance or significance. I cannot imagine any real reason as to why anyone would raise this complaint about the use of a specific word, other than posturing and virtue signalling. (Or nitpicking, though that one's just a theory here.) I would understand (and perhaps even sympathize with) the point that in some areas of the world it is considered a heavy insult, but — for the love of God — have you never noticed what game you've been playing? ESRB assigned APB the M ("Mature 17+") rating, explicitly describing the type of content you can encounter in the game. Do you not have a problem with killing other people in the game? Do you not have a problem with us smuggling animals to sell them for profit? Do you not have a problem with Gumball indirectly offering the player to fuck his dog? All of these are quite immoral and unacceptable things, yet you're taking offense to a single specific word that's not even aimed directly at you? Yes, the word is banned on the forums, because different etiquette is required here. As Solamente already pointed out, anyone can access these forums and read them, but in the actual game itself you have to register an account to interact with it. In the game chat you can (note: I'm saying that you can and not that you should) curse like a sailor, preferably without aiming the curse words at other people — but on the forums you're expected to be a bit more courteous or professional. You're out in the open. The world can see you. Act like it. The thing that I find the most funny about this is that the word "wh0re", which is oh so problematic, is included in a title. It's never going to be aimed at any other player. It describes your character. If you don't want to title yourself a "candy wh0re", just use a different title. No one — not a single goddamned person in this game — can force you to wear that title if you don't want to.
  16. Why does this feel like... a massive non-issue? Perhaps I'm reading this incorrectly, but... is your problem that the weapon icons are not gold anymore? (some of which still are on your screenshots)
  17. In all honesty, this dev post from Matt Scott is a tough pill to swallow. I've had some people ask me (often in a confrontational manner) why I'm being optimistic/positive about Little Orbit when "all they've been doing so far was just ruining the game". It's because the only current alternative seems to be that exact type of unproductive babble. We need to face this as a community: we fucked up. There's no point in pretending that LO is entirely responsible for what happens to APB, or that the game is going to magically save itself through no effort of our own. We fucked up by letting things reach this point where a new company which could potentially breathe new life into APB is scared of the community behind the game. Think of Tiggs what you will — hell, I personally believe she had made multiple severe mistakes in her plight as Community Manager — but threats to her life and safety are absolutely inexcusable. Threats to anyone's life and safety, especially over a goddamned video game, are something that never should even cross anyone's mind. This sort of childish behavior is partly what got us into this mess in the first place. This is the reputation those individuals have given to our community. How are we supposed to convince anyone to join the game when its social landscape — one of its most important components, considering how this is an MMO — is a toxic wasteland where people get insulted, demeaned or threatened on the regular? It's very easy to pretend that your actions don't have consequences; that "it's all just words on the screen"; that the victims of this sort of harassment "are too soft for the internet"; or that "it's just the way this game is", which is a laughably evil point of view. The real problems begin when suddenly you don't see those people in the game anymore. Maybe they decided that they are not going to bother with a game with such a toxic community. Maybe they wanted to find new friends to play video games with, but all they got was taunts and insults and being told to "git gud". Maybe they wanted to play a video game and forget about their problems but instead they got told words that ended up making them feel even worse. Either way you end up being directly responsible for someone not being in APB anymore. No amount of excuses will bring us from low population numbers — only waking up and owning up to how we behave will. If this post reaches even one person and makes them change their ways, I'll be happy. I don't want people to start behaving like Pollyannas because that would be 1) unrealistic, 2) unproductive, 3) obnoxious — I just wish some of us could grow up a bit. Hell, some people probably have literally grown up playing APB. It's high time they've started acting their age instead of trying to be the 12 year old bullies ruling the playground. On a different note: thanks, Matt (sorry, couldn't resist :^) ) and other folks at LO. Really, thank you. For everything you've been doing for the game so far. Even for the bad decisions, since you've shown that you're willing to learn from mistakes and you've withdrawn or changed said decisions. The amount of developer-playerbase interaction we've been getting for the last two years has been simply incredible. Off the top of my head I can't think of a different company whose CEO is so active in interacting with the community. It saddens me a bit that, as it turns out, it was partially born as a cautionary measure to protect other LO employees from attacks, but ultimately — personally speaking — I respect the amount of interaction we ended up getting from a higher-up in the company. It definitely feels like the company genuinely wants to hear feedback from the playerbase. It's a bit reassuring that our opinions are actually seen and heard by those in charge, instead of pre-buyout G1's approach of never listening to anything, never saying anything and never giving a damn about what the community thinks. Hell, the GMs are actually participating in the life of the community, the moderators are trying to keep the forums civil and organized... things are actually happening. Even if the game is not in tiptop shape yet, I believe we're slowly getting there. We're in this thing together. LO can keep working on the actual game, we can start working on making the game an enjoyable place to be. Not just for the elitists and cliques of "cool kids" — but for everyone. If we can start actually being a bit nicer to each other, that could be a good start for us, the players. Cheesy movie-like pep speech over, but please do actually consider my words, kind traveller :^)
  18. Honestly... not a bad idea. It would definitely be interesting if certain vehicle-oriented missions provided both teams with coordinates to "secret stashes" or "weapon caches" containing rocket launchers. Of course they would have to be spawned somewhere between the car and the drop-off to allow the defending team to actually grab it and be able to use it — kind of like a side objective running side-by-side with the mission objective; you have to attack by getting the car to the drop-off, but you can defend somewhere else to deny the other team a utility.
  19. It's "Broken Chords" by WobsTasy.
  20. So you literally have no underlying motive beyond "trying to push things". Sheesh. At least the other people I've seen trying to justify using Nazi symbols in APB were more creative with their excuses. Personally speaking, I'm afraid I don't exactly want to be friends with people who get their kicks out of using fascist symbols. Whoo boy, where do we even start with this one? It kind of feels like you're trying to muddle the discourse by serving this hodgepodge of symbols, some of which are literal Nazi symbols (Iron Eagle, Iron Cross; worth mentioning, the German criminal code forbids the distribution and public use of symbols such as these) and some of which are false flag memes (the OK hand sign, which is an innocent expression that some morons on the Internet tried to bait the media into deeming a hate symbol). Putting them on the same level feels dishonest. We live in stupid times in which an innocent web comic character can get turned into a hate symbol. Observe the context and the person using the symbol — humans have the ability to contextualize the things they say and do. If it's your friend reacting to something on Twitch with , they're probably just reacting to a scary situation on the stream they're watching. If it's some Internet rando posting Pepe in clown makeup and also spouting some bullcrap about other races and politics, they're probably using the symbol with an agenda. It's all about context. Pepe has that ambiguity behind him, so if you really want to distinguish the intent, you need to contextualize the use of the symbol. Some symbols don't have that ambiguity. Let's be honest: nobody in APB is ever going to hold history lessons and create Nazi uniforms for "educational purposes". If someone's using Nazi symbols on their character or their car or anywhere, they a) are Nazi trash, b) are kids who don't comprehend the meaning of those symbols yet, c) are edgy cretins who are doing it deliberately just to get some kicks out of it... and in all cases this is not acceptable and should be reported. Simple as that.
  21. Who are those "many others" that you speak of? Who appointed you to be their spokesperson anyway? If you are unable to tell what sort of symbols would be forbidden just from reading sentences like "no nazi symbolism", I'd bargain you're under the recommended age restriction for this game. There are some things that you really should know are not okay to create. This sort of stuff is (or should have been) taught to you in school. If you've paid any attention whatsoever in your history classes, you should know about the things perpetrated by Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler's rule. It's absolutely baffling to me why you would need someone to explain to you why swastikas are not okay to have on your APB character. The part about "other cultural swastikas" is a pointless argument. Yes, the swastika was originally a religious symbol, which was appropriated by Nazi Germany. The magnitude of these crimes against humanity was such that almost universally, all over the world, the swastika lost its original meaning, and in the international culture it's predominantly associated with the Nazis. Practically no one in the general public will defend you if you put a swastika on your clothes and try to say that it's "not the nazi swastika, but some other swastika of some other religion". This is not how we understand that symbol anymore. (Bonus points if you also accuse those punishing you of "religious discrimination" because at that point you're making it painfully obvious that you're just trying to start shit and be edgy.) Your best guidance is your common sense, really. If it's a hate symbol, it's a no-go. If it's full-blown porn, it's a no-go. If it discriminates other people, it's a no-go. Believe it or not, this is an online multiplayer game, with real people on the other side of the screen. It's not about how you interpret it — it's about how everyone who sees it will interpret it.
  22. Honestly, a very respectable decision in the face of the virus. Hopefully we all manage to persevere through this whole ordeal. Sure, the Engine Upgrade is important, but what's more important are human lives that may be at risk due to the pandemic. Kudos to Matt Scott for making the call and caring about the well-being of LO employees. The "free premium to alleviate the boredom" thing is honestly one of the last things I expected to happen, but it is a move that is appreciated nonetheless. To all of you reading this — both regular forum users and LO employees — remember to take all necessary precautions, keep yourself healthy and stay safe!
  23. Or — and bear with me on this one — I wasn't a big fan of RIOT nor was I friends with anyone involved in its development. I simply refuse to jump to absolutes and think of RIOT as a "total and utter failure on every conceivable front" like I've seen many people do.
  24. Not really going to debate this part since it's, well, your personal opinion and there's nothing wrong with having one, but I don't get the part about the characters. Wasn't Holland pretty much the only named character we've got out of it all? I guess there was also the whistleblower from the ARG, but the website seems to be down so I can't check how much character development we got out of that one. Assuming you mean the reskins in Joker Distribution — fair point, actually. Still, I don't see anything wrong in having RHD as a manufacturer of (for example) more unconventional weaponry, considering that we already have some weapons that don't seem to have an apparent manufacturer — namely, all weapons from the Pack of Revelations.
  25. Well, there's my nomination for the award of Today's Most Terrible Take. For better or worse, the RIOT gamemode was a part of the game for a brief moment in time. It failed for several reasons, there's no denying that. But underneath the failed gamemode there is development of the world we play in. Do you remember that we've had an ARG that made players search for clues and look for answers as to who RedHill are? Do you realize that we still have Lawrence Holland residing in Social? Have you ever even noticed billboards around town changing as the ARG developed? Please don't pretend that you give a rat's patootie about APB's lore. If anything, from a world-building standpoint RIOT was a breath of fresh air after literal years of absolutely nothing going on. Bringing up "lore immersion" is a silly position to take, considering how 1) very few people care about this game's lore, characters and world-building; 2) it's hard to believably and properly expand upon a world written by people who probably aren't even with the company anymore; 3) the lore has already been "ruined" by the addition of Specialists. If you think that the events surrounding the RedHill Institute of Technology do not fit APB and that they "ruin the sanctity of lore" (choice of words up to personal preference), why are you not speaking up about how none of the Specialists are acknowledged by anyone who existed before them? Chung-hee is friends with Orlenz' and Chiza, Criminal missions reference the death of Jenna Casey, Michael Simeone namedrops Byron Bloodrose as the one who protects the Roses from CSA cyber-espionage — but DDog, Ernst, Aletta, Mischa, Birth and Gumball? They exist in their own bubble. They reference one another or the contacts who came before them, but they're practically never mentioned by any contacts who aren't a part of their group. How is the existence of the RedHill Institute of Technology a unique problem? APB hasn't had any sort of real lore development for literal years now. San Paro itself remains suspended in 2010s, both in terms of its aesthetics/atmosphere and its world (as in characters and the events surrounding them). Practically all the Specialists do not exist in any mentions by their preceding contacts. For all its faults, RIOT actually gave us an interesting plot thread and a potential third force who would want to exploit the two sides of the San Paro conflict. Expecting Little Orbit to just hush up and never bring up or reference what they've created is just an incredibly silly approach. Plus, as it is a research institute, it gives LO a perfect excuse to have more experimental weaponry that would not fit any other weapon manufacturer. Case in point: this very legendary, the LS1 "Corsair". STABBA Non-lethal is a company which has an outright policy of not manufacturing lethal weaponry. Having RedHill be responsible for developing a lethal version lets LO satisfy those people who have expressed interest in seeing an NL9-like slug shotgun. As a community, we could really use a bit less negative thinking and a lot less of dealing in absolutes.
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