Time to change your Loot Box model LO.

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

16 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said:

Yup and a lack of parenting. But the point is that this will affect LO as JMBs are gambling boxes in a nutshell and arent consumer friendly from the piss poor win rate to the lesser rewards that arent worth a penny.

I honestly dont see problems with jmb... and is probably the only thing that gives g1 any income.

If you can't control yourself to spend all of your money for a virtual item via gambling, well you are likely the problem. You can't blame others for your actions.

[Darkzero3802 611]

1 hour ago, SillyBear said:

I honestly dont see problems with jmb... and is probably the only thing that gives g1 any income.

If you can't control yourself to spend all of your money for a virtual item via gambling, well you are likely the problem. You can't blame others for your actions.

LO could get income via actually releasing new stuff and content in game instead of relying on gambling boxers that teach kids how to gamble and not releasing anything new. Do you honestly think LO is making money off of the boxes when there arent any new ppl playing and the boxes were released so long ago everyone has the items?

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

1 minute ago, Darkzero3802 said:

LO could get income via actually releasing new stuff and content in game instead of relying on gambling boxers that teach kids how to gamble and not releasing anything new. Do you honestly think LO is making money off of the boxes when there arent any new ppl playing and the boxes were released so long ago everyone has the items?

Thats not really the point of my post... what about the rest? Why did you ignore it?

[Darkzero3802 611]

3 minutes ago, SillyBear said:

Thats not really the point of my post... what about the rest? Why did you ignore it?

The point of the whole suit going on in Europe is cause these boxes resemble gambling and as such its teaching kids at a very young age how to get hooked on gambling which is a very bad thing. Thats the whole point of this your just trying to find a valid reason as to why these boxes are good and my point this whole time is the entirety of it for everybody. If you really wana go there ive spent on JMBs in the past but stopped many yrs ago as there a waste of money and my money can be put to better use in other games where I can get more for it without having to gamble, which again goes right back to the boxes being the problem. Nobody in their right mind wants to gamble and spend extra for in game items that rightfully should be sold outright for a set price.

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

9 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said:

The point of the whole suit going on in Europe is cause these boxes resemble gambling and as such its teaching kids at a very young age how to get hooked on gambling which is a very bad thing. Thats the whole point of this your just trying to find a valid reason as to why these boxes are good and my point this whole time is the entirety of it for everybody. If you really wana go there ive spent on JMBs in the past but stopped many yrs ago as there a waste of money and my money can be put to better use in other games where I can get more for it without having to gamble, which again goes right back to the boxes being the problem. Nobody in their right mind wants to gamble and spend extra for in game items that rightfully should be sold outright for a set price. 

Lets sumarize: game is +18; you are your own actions responsible. No one is teaching kids anything and you are the one creating ghosts to be able to purchase legendaries directly from the shop and make this game even less interesting.

If anyone is to be blamed that games are teaching kids x are fathers because they are the ones responsibles for them and the ones that allow to access said games with a computer, internet and everything needed for that end. Force the gobernments to take their children out of their hands and force them to pay for their support (both mother and father) until the minor reach a mature thinking to be able to be responsible for his own actions.

That way they wont fuck up with others enjoyment (i used to like buying a few jmb when i could).

 

 

PROBLEM-FUCKING-SOLVED.

Edited May 28, 2019 by SillyBear

[ScLines 13]

Basically, if APB doesn't remove its loot boxes or pay-to-win stuff, then this game will become an Adults Only (18+) game and no longer rated either rated M for Mature of T for Teens etc. If this game was sold only on retail that would be very bad etc. But it will prevent children or teens from easily playing APB.

Edited May 28, 2019 by ScLines

[Doom32 23]

honestly why would any "teenager" want to play this dated looking game, arent' they worried about graphics and shit idk

*guess if the computer was too shitty and had no choice but to play the game.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Doom32

[Darkzero3802 611]

1 hour ago, SillyBear said:

Lets sumarize: game is +18; you are your own actions responsible. No one is teaching kids anything and you are the one creating ghosts to be able to purchase legendaries directly from the shop and make this game even less interesting.

If anyone is to be blamed that games are teaching kids x are fathers because they are the ones responsibles for them and the ones that allow to access said games with a computer, internet and everything needed for that end. Force the gobernments to take their children out of their hands and force them to pay for their support (both mother and father) until the minor reach a mature thinking to be able to be responsible for his own actions.

That way they wont fuck up with others enjoyment (i used to like buying a few jmb when i could).

 

 

PROBLEM-FUCKING-SOLVED.

Didnt know I was creating ghosts thanks for telling me what im doing. Parents can watch their kids but kids can also get behind their parents back do remember that. Personally this sounds like unresolved personal issues of yours and if you enjoyed getting timed stuff from JMBs you must have quite low standards.

1 hour ago, ScLines said:

Basically, if APB doesn't remove its loot boxes or pay-to-win stuff, then this game will become an Adults Only (18+) game and no longer rated either rated M for Mature of T for Teens etc. If this game was sold only on retail that would be very bad etc. But it will prevent children or teens from easily playing APB.

APB honestly isnt p2w. You can get the best guns right away perm just by completing the tutorial and all guns can be purchased for in game currency. What exactly is p2w about that?

31 minutes ago, Doom32 said:

honestly why would any "teenager" want to play this dated looking game, arent' they worried about graphics and shit idk

The games addicting and some still wana play it. TF2 is dated and its still played.

[illgot 379]

4 hours ago, SillyBear said:

I honestly dont see problems with jmb... and is probably the only thing that gives g1 any income.

If you can't control yourself to spend all of your money for a virtual item via gambling, well you are likely the problem. You can't blame others for your actions.

but you can blame people who exploits a system that preys on addiction.

 

Yes, anyone that is buying things should be an adult, but addictions exist and this game does not cater to just adults.

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

1 hour ago, illgot said:

but you can blame people who exploits a system that preys on addiction.

 

Yes, anyone that is buying things should be an adult, but addictions exist and this game does not cater to just adults.

Yes it does.

Control yourself or get help, its just a phone call bud. If you don't get help then is because you like to be an addicted and ruin your own life. Like stop blaming others pls. Even if they control most thing, addicted people will find another stuff. We can't live in a bubble feeded from the patootie because everything is harmful.

 

What would they need to do with a guy addicted to masturbation? Chop his banana off because he is addicted? Remove absolutly every single pornography that ever existed and dress women with hyjab? No, you fucking drug him until he has no desire to touch himself because is HE the problem.

I understand you millenials are fucked up in the head, stop spreading it, please. Please?

 

 

[Doom32 23]

That's all good in all you see, if the game is already a known success most people would probably just play it. 
apb is not known for anything successful, and is mostly known for its bugs, server issues, and promises that aren't kept. 

also, the graphics in tf2 are appealing and not over done. which makes for smooth performance whilst the graphics are looking nice.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Doom32

[Darkzero3802 611]

4 hours ago, illgot said:

Yes, anyone that is buying things should be an adult, but addictions exist and this game does not cater to just adults.

Exactly. Not everyone is an adult. Some ppl can handle it others cant. The core issue is that these boxes are in games meant for 12yr olds (overwatch, TF2, Maplestory to name afew) and that there teaches gambling. 12yr olds dont know better and regardless of parenting this could lead to problems down the road. Its a horrid practice and the cons outweigh the pros. There here for the sole purpose of ripping the consumer off and getting extra profit out of digital content. If these boxes had better odds or a value cap where you spend x amount and u get the prize no mater what it would be much better all around but this isn't the case cause all these companies are greedy as hell. Kids dont go to casinos and they shouldn't be around these boxes its one in the same, gambling.

2 hours ago, SillyBear said:

Yes it does.

Control yourself or get help, its just a phone call bud. If you don't get help then is because you like to be an addicted and ruin your own life. Like stop blaming others pls. Even if they control most thing, addicted people will find another stuff. We can't live in a bubble feeded from the patootie because everything is harmful.

 

What would they need to do with a guy addicted to masturbation? Chop his banana off because he is addicted? Remove absolutly every single pornography that ever existed and dress women with hyjab? No, you fucking drug him until he has no desire to touch himself because is HE the problem.

I understand you millenials are fucked up in the head, stop spreading it, please. Please?

Your trying to defend something thats known bad where the cons outweigh the pros. Please, stop trying find any reason to validate the boxes there proven to not be good and the majority want them gone. If they weren't so bad there wouldn't be legislation to ban them. Gaming companies for decades made profits without them before they were introduced and they can sure as hell do so again.

[Fortune Runner 796]

9 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

There are kids under 15 playing APB fyi. APB might be geared for 18+ but kiddies are playing it anyway so this will be an issue for LO regardless.

True

9 hours ago, SillyBear said:

You can't control that... its like preventing cheaters to reroll.

If the game is +18 and you are underage, thats likely your problem.

True but irrelevant...

9 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

Yup and a lack of parenting. But the point is that this will affect LO as JMBs are gambling boxes in a nutshell and arent consumer friendly from the piss poor win rate to the lesser rewards that arent worth a penny.

True

8 hours ago, SillyBear said:

I honestly dont see problems with jmb... and is probably the only thing that gives g1 any income.

If you can't control yourself to spend all of your money for a virtual item via gambling, well you are likely the problem. You can't blame others for your actions.

Because current laws and others about to exist on "loot boxes" would make this a crime. Which is why the previous post I said would be irrelevant.

 

If the governments mess with our jmb's  then we have to find another way.

Any ideas?

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

11 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

True

True but irrelevant...

True

Because current laws and others about to exist on "loot boxes" would make this a crime. Which is why the previous post I said would be irrelevant.

 

If the governments mess with our jmb's  then we have to find another way.

Any ideas?

Yes, just shut down games because they teach kids to murder, lmao. Also games makes you addict, they also teach you to be addict, so yeah... there is no reason to have games in your pc. Lets be all like puritans n' shiet.

Edited May 29, 2019 by SillyBear

[Fortune Runner 796]

1 hour ago, SillyBear said:

Yes, just shut down games because they teach kids to murder, lmao. Also games makes you addictive, it also teaches you to be addict, so yeah... there is no reason to have games in your pc. Lets be all like puritans n' shiet.

Its the politicians actually , and they manipulate for power and control by lying for a "cause" like the ones you stated so that they can get into power.

 

 

Edit : lol somebody got the joke cool

 

Edited May 29, 2019 by Fortune Runner

[Ydiss 15]

Sounds like someone missed their opportunity to be elected to European Parliament last week. Arguing the wrong points with the wrong people for the sake of arguing. 

[Darkzero3802 611]

9 hours ago, SillyBear said:

Yes, just shut down games because they teach kids to murder, lmao. Also games makes you addict, they also teach you to be addict, so yeah... there is no reason to have games in your pc. Lets be all like puritans n' shiet.

Please see below. Your argument is invalid please try arguing something that has a valid point to argue. Your logic here games shouldnt exist, were all dumb and worthless and your all high and mighty.

8 hours ago, Ydiss said:

Sounds like someone missed their opportunity to be elected to European Parliament last week. Arguing the wrong points with the wrong people for the sake of arguing. 

 

10 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:

Because current laws and others about to exist on "loot boxes" would make this a crime. Which is why the previous post I said would be irrelevant.

 

If the governments mess with our jmb's  then we have to find another way.

Any ideas?

Idea, straight out sell the items like was done 15-20yrs ago. Gaming companies made money this way then they can most cert do it now. Also sell limited time items never to be sold again at a slight mark up. Ppl will pay the slight extra for shinies that they can brag about (FFA 5.56 and temptress anyone?)
 

[Fortune Runner 796]

1 hour ago, Darkzero3802 said:

Idea, straight out sell the items like was done 15-20yrs ago. Gaming companies made money this way then they can most cert do it now. Also sell limited time items never to be sold again at a slight mark up. Ppl will pay the slight extra for shinies that they can brag about (FFA 5.56 and temptress anyone?)

only so many guns can currently be made for APB though so this can go real bad.

remember how g1 made n tecs with new skins?

people got really pissed about that.

 

Edit : just thought of something - I haven't seen new skins for currently made uniforms or cars  though. hmm.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Fortune Runner

[indi 175]

LO doesn't have the ability to prove without a doubt that they gateway minors from accessing their games and their marketplace, it isn't like a casino where you can ID card someone at the door. If this bill passes it would probably force LO to alter their business model to stay within the standards of the law as would many other companies using RNG lootboxes as a source of revenue.

[LilWonka 96]

On 5/28/2019 at 3:07 PM, SillyBear said:

You can't control that... its like preventing cheaters to reroll.

If the game is +18 and you are underage, thats likely your problem.

Look at it this way, if im 16 and walk in a store and buy a pack of cigs and they dont ID me and sell to me, who gets in trouble ?

[CookiePuss 5379]

28 minutes ago, Willy Wonka said:

Look at it this way, if im 16 and walk in a store and buy a pack of cigs and they dont ID me and sell to me, who gets in trouble ?

Depends on the state here in the US, but both parties would be breaking the law. 

[LilWonka 96]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Depends on the state here in the US, but both parties would be breaking the law. 

Yes but the store gets in more trouble plus fined, kid just gets a spanking usually.

[CookiePuss 5379]

4 minutes ago, Willy Wonka said:

Yes but the store gets in more trouble plus fined, kid just gets a spanking usually.

Depends on the state. 

But yes, punishments for adults are usually more severe than for juveniles. 

 

Stores also have an immediate means of verifying age. (I.D.)

Online F2P games do not.

Unless you want games to require I.D. in order to download and play. 

[LilWonka 96]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Depends on the state. 

But yes, punishments for adults are usually more severe than for juveniles. 

 

Stores also have an immediate means of verifying age. (I.D.)

Online F2P games do not.

Unless you want games to require I.D. in order to download and play. 

I dont want that but if the bill passes, games with gamble boxes will have to do something to prove their players are the age they say they are. Unless they get rid of them.

Edited May 30, 2019 by Willy Wonka

[CookiePuss 5379]

11 minutes ago, Willy Wonka said:

I dont want that but if the bill passes, games with gamble boxes will have to do something to prove their players are the age they say they are. Unless they get rid of them.

Interesting times ahead indeed. 

Inb4 AAA titles now cost $200.