12/10 MAINTENANCE ANNOUNCEMENT

[MageLO 344]

Hello everyone,

 

Our standard weekly maintenance will be held this Wednesday (12/10) starting at 8 PM UTC. The game should be back up and running in 6 to 8 hours.

 

Notes: We're starting our weekly maintenance much later than usual as we're working on some on-site improvements to our back-end infrastructure.

 

Thank you for your patience.

[EC2Jonathan 28]

MCD APPROVES THIS POST!

 

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[Ebola-Chan 61]

Game is dead

[Victoria97 61]

Matt needs to learn to keep his own given word or not give it at first place. 
At AMA he clearly stated that by now Legends gonna be released. 10th December was absolute deadline. I see now that your idea is to release it with the Xmas event which is fine as well.

But again we are lacking information here at forums. 

Forum has to be priority platform for releasing news. Period. 

I can't understand that entire management of lil orbit doesn't have capacity to comprehend this simplicity.

I seriously thought that Lil orbit is Discord owner, being the fact as much as you guys pushing that platform thinking you are fancy. 

Just beware, if you postpone Legends for after the Xmas event, in next year, there seriously won't be anyone left for you to release it for. Pop is dropping by 100 ppl every month.

We are at 200 now. In january that will be 100 and then in february or march 2026 you can shut down all servers. Just saying. 

People kept saying game is dead or dying, but until now that was not so evident. 

[lesbianrus 7]

I would also add that there is no anti-cheat in the game.And this is one of the reasons why many people quit the game.I just can't understand why the Orbit is so held up by cheaters. After all, APB is the only online game in the world where there is no anti-cheat.Soon, only gold and developers will remain in the districts.

[lesbianrus 7]

22 hours ago, MageLO said:

Всем привет,

 

Наше стандартное еженедельное техническое обслуживание состоится в эту среду (10.12) с 20:00 UTC. Игра должна снова запуститься через 6–8 часов.

 

Примечания: Мы начинаем еженедельное обслуживание гораздо позже обычного, так как работаем над некоторыми улучшениями нашей инфраструктуры на месте.

 

Спасибо за ваше терпение.

This announcement contains the entire Orbit and its developers.To say and not to do

[MageLO 344]

Hello again,

 

unfortunately we need to postpone todays maintenance to another date as we ran into some last minute issues. We will keep you all updated on when this weeks maintenance will happen in a future post.

 

Thank you for your patience.

[DORIUS 12]

13 hours ago, Victoria97 said:

Matt needs to learn to keep his own given word or not give it at first place. 
At AMA he clearly stated that by now Legends gonna be released. 10th December was absolute deadline. I see now that your idea is to release it with the Xmas event which is fine as well.

But again we are lacking information here at forums. 

Forum has to be priority platform for releasing news. Period. 

I can't understand that entire management of lil orbit doesn't have capacity to comprehend this simplicity.

I seriously thought that Lil orbit is Discord owner, being the fact as much as you guys pushing that platform thinking you are fancy. 

Just beware, if you postpone Legends for after the Xmas event, in next year, there seriously won't be anyone left for you to release it for. Pop is dropping by 100 ppl every month.

We are at 200 now. In january that will be 100 and then in february or march 2026 you can shut down all servers. Just saying. 

People kept saying game is dead or dying, but until now that was not so evident. 

 

Honestly, I’m getting tired of seeing the same complaints over and over again.
You guys keep demanding some kind of massive new content drops from LO, as if that’s what the majority truly needs. But most players don’t need that. New players don’t need it either — new contacts or end-game content are designed mostly for veterans, who log in on and off with long breaks anyway. And, let’s be real, most long-time players don’t actually need new contacts. Sure, new content would add some temporary variety, but the current amount is already enough.
15–20 levels of a new contact can be leveled up in a week, and then what? It’s just like before — everyone will quickly forget about what was supposed to be a “big update” recently. 

The game never moved to the new engine, and it never will. Accept the fact that the game is simply being maintained now.

Personally, I don’t need new content. I already own pretty much every weapon from Armas, a lot of clothes, and seasonal events are enough variety for me to keep playing — especially if each year they bring at least small differences. The only thing I’d want is for the events to last at least a month, because I have many characters to play on. My point here isn’t to brag about what I have, but to show that I’m fully willing to support the game financially — as long as the team focuses on solving the real core issue: cheaters. 

I’m sure many players would prefer that LO focused on solving the main problems — cheaters. People quit because of them, or after a couple hours of facing such opponents they don’t want to return to the game for a week.

And LO really needs to finally work on Armas. If they don’t fully understand the content that previous developers created — then make surveys. Or analyze statistics. For example: clothing bundle + permanent gun (character or account bound), or vehicle + clothing + permanent gun, or vehicle + kit + clothing + permanent gun. These types of bundles are interesting for many players who are willing to spend $20–40 a month.

Also, Armas is missing a lot of content that already exists in-game, and players would love to have those customization items available.

The problem is that the LO team itself never really played the game, never experienced levelling from 0 to at least rank 200 without Premium. Then they would understand what the players’ experience actually looks like.

But if they keep listening to the constant complainers, it’s a dead end. We already had an example — splitting districts by threat. And we all remember how that ended. 

[CookiePuss 5394]

7 hours ago, DORIUS said:

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The problem is that the LO team itself never really played the game,

I don’t know the rest of the team but Frosi has been on board for a long time now and I bet he has close to 20,000 hours. 

[Yapopal 211]

If the development team has such experienced people, then why have they ignored the gameplay issues for many years? Perhaps their opinion is not taken into account in any way? Or do 20,000 hours of gaming experience have no effect on competence?

A simple example of a complete misunderstanding of the game: A common problem is that the opponent takes the briefcase away at the last stage of the mission. The obvious solution to the problem is to limit the task execution area. The developers are introducing a speed limit for loaded cars. That is, the problem of one system is solved by changing another system. Bottom line - all cars become useless, the Vegas car rules the ball. The original problem has not been solved, a stable system has been de-stabilized. A serious problem affecting the outcome of the mission has remained relevant for many years and has not been solved in any way.

Edited yesterday at 01:34 PM by Yapopal

[Victoria97 61]

10 hours ago, DORIUS said:

Honestly, I’m getting tired of seeing the same complaints over and over again.
You guys keep demanding some kind of massive new content drops from LO, as if that’s what the majority truly needs. But most players don’t need that. New players don’t need it either — new contacts or end-game content are designed mostly for veterans, who log in on and off with long breaks anyway. And, let’s be real, most long-time players don’t actually need new contacts. Sure, new content would add some temporary variety, but the current amount is already enough.
15–20 levels of a new contact can be leveled up in a week, and then what? It’s just like before — everyone will quickly forget about what was supposed to be a “big update” recently. 

The game never moved to the new engine, and it never will. Accept the fact that the game is simply being maintained now.

Personally, I don’t need new content. I already own pretty much every weapon from Armas, a lot of clothes, and seasonal events are enough variety for me to keep playing — especially if each year they bring at least small differences. The only thing I’d want is for the events to last at least a month, because I have many characters to play on. My point here isn’t to brag about what I have, but to show that I’m fully willing to support the game financially — as long as the team focuses on solving the real core issue: cheaters. 

I’m sure many players would prefer that LO focused on solving the main problems — cheaters. People quit because of them, or after a couple hours of facing such opponents they don’t want to return to the game for a week.

And LO really needs to finally work on Armas. If they don’t fully understand the content that previous developers created — then make surveys. Or analyze statistics. For example: clothing bundle + permanent gun (character or account bound), or vehicle + clothing + permanent gun, or vehicle + kit + clothing + permanent gun. These types of bundles are interesting for many players who are willing to spend $20–40 a month.

Also, Armas is missing a lot of content that already exists in-game, and players would love to have those customization items available.

The problem is that the LO team itself never really played the game, never experienced levelling from 0 to at least rank 200 without Premium. Then they would understand what the players’ experience actually looks like.

But if they keep listening to the constant complainers, it’s a dead end. We already had an example — splitting districts by threat. And we all remember how that ended. 

 

Honestly its funny seeing that you play since 2011 and after 14 years you are still clueless about the game and community needs. I am getting tired as well of people like you who are missing the whole point even though its right in front of your eyes the whole time. 

Firstly, the game engine was obviously not coming, and it was obvious after 2 years LO took over and not delivering it. Everybody knew that. Nobody demanded it anymore, it became sort of troll and poke for LO, each time they did something wrong engine upgrade became excuse for community to rub their faces with it alluding to failure of realization of their promises. 

Cheaters were problem in APB from day 1 and its unsolvable issue. Its not like they didnt try. There were at least 5+ anti cheat programs. From fairfight over eac to battle eye versions etc.

The issue was not in lack of AC's the issue was when population dropped, this management decided to pardon all the banned scum cheaters and hackers and welcomed them back into the game. Not with 1 unban wave not with 2 but with 4 unban waves, 4 times in row they were systematically brought back.

Further, you go on and show me one single newcomer! One! There are no newcomers to APB, and APB is long time ago not a game for newcomers!

This game is maintained as you say only by us veterans, who re roll with new chars and make new chars. Any newcomer who comes by invite or suggestion of some veteran,, deletes APB the same day he installed it. Period.

 

There were several massive exoduses and population mass extinctions as i like to call it. 

First appeared when APB was down for 3-4 months, I dont recall exactly which year it has been but it did happen. During that period it was discussed should APB even be brought back again or not. 
After it did come back, during that down time it lost several thousands players which never came back.

Second mass exodus happened during LO era, and it was the removal of threat districts which was done under pressure of gold veterans who were bitching that they got low pop silver districts. 

It was equal to raising doors and unleashing 400 lions (fake and legit but still lions) upon 400 legit sheep's (silvers bronzes and greens).

Golds got what they wanted, they stomped over bronzies and silvers for weeks and they had so much fun until bronzies greens and legit silvers got sick and tired of it and quitted the game.

I as gold player was highly against it due to dethreatings and collective joining but to no avail. Even to fools it was obvious what will happen, but they did it anyway. I hate people who cant think 2 steps ahead even. What happened? Population dropped for 70%. Gee...how did that happen i wonder?!

Next mass exodus happened between January 2015 and October 2015 when population of 4,887 and 5000 players dropped over half to 2000 players. After which we never seen 4k+ players anymore.  February 2015 was last time APB seen population of 4500+ players.

Fast forwarding skipping to Lil orbit New horizon, what we did? Made 4th unban wave. Good for you. It killed all remaining legit silver casual players who dont tryhard sweat and play every mission like its FIFA football world cup!

Last mass exodus happened with districts crossing missions which finally put final nail into the coffin and was a desperate move which was counter effect. 

 

I play since 2012 i got more than 4 accounts and over 20 chars. With all accounts I bought almost everything buyable on Armas and I say I want new content. 

You are discussing all this with final 200 population from which all of us are veterans. I assure you there is not a single legit real newcomer person in december 2025. And even less if there is 1 single newbie, he will not last more than a day before uninstalling this graveyard of a game.

So only way you can keep us VETERANS at this point is to give me some new motivation, new content.

I want new clothes i want new grenades new cars new weapons. I dont care much for new levels I got over 10 chars level 270, I proved point of having no life to myself, there is nothing left to prove; but i do want something new i can spend my money for.

I am highly against  your statement quote: "Also, Armas is missing a lot of content that already exists in-game, and players would love to have those customization items available."

There is a reason why some clothing or weapons or weapon skins are unique. You could ve attained them only in certain age inside APB n thats it. Thats how it needs to stay.

Otherwise there is no challenge for lazy kids can simply swipe their parents credit card and buy everything without a single drop of sweat which pisses me the f off.

If you dont have devil wings go waste possibly 2 + years handling glitched pumpkins coming to 299'th pumpkin and realizing you need to wait entire year to get 300th and unlock devil wings. That is the charm. APB has always been a masochistic game and thats why we love it. 

There were certain masks released during Tiggs era like Masquerade mask. If you didn't get it then and we did, I want to dance in front of you and tell you look at it...you not gonna get it, you not gonna get it (in Borat's voice). You wont go to Armas wave with your credit card and  get it for 200g1c. Because term unique loses its point of existence then.

 

So yes I complain with reason. At this phase of APB dying, only thing that can suddenly bring back high population is indeed only and i repeat only new content. Yes it will drop after its grinded but at least it will make some people stay for few months longer until you drop some new content again and again drive them back into the game. Thats how you will keep them checking up the game from time to time instead of permanently deleting it. There are many friends on discord who are APB veterans who are just waiting for new content and they are instantly back to the game. Thats how you keep game alive. It certainly wont pay off for them to keep servers online for population of 10 people. 

You think if they with ur suggestion reform armas and put some new shit up, you think people who didnt open APB last 2 years will be... oh boy oh boy they made combinations on armas lemme return to apb spend my money and play it now?? No.

Cheaters as you say are a cancer we all live with for over a decade inside APB. Its nothing new, and its not solvable. Cheaters exist in every single online game, APB is no exception. So sooner you make peace with it sooner you can live with it. If you ban 2 cheaters 6 of them will rise up tomorrow, because 2 banned edgy kids will invite their friends to troll the game. That can be solved only with MAC and GUID permanent bans. Banning your motherboard physically. So as long as you have the motherboard inside your PC your shitty patootie wont be able to start APB anymore nor create new accounts. That is the only way. If you do that tough, our current 200 population will drop for at least 40-50 people. Maybe in long term it would pay off, maybe it wont but at this point its little too late for such a radical move. 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:50 PM by Victoria97

[Basti0 2]

Remember the good old times when we still had matchmaking threat levels. I guess they only really work with a high player population. With that system, we were motivated to rank up, and everyone could play at their own pace against players of similar skill.

[MACKxBOLAN 485]

This makes my eyes hurt.

 Ok All of you are Right, but each player differs if what they see as priority 1. 

  Yes we all want new content/contacts, we all want the servers to run, and most of us want 

the hacking to stop or the AC to be Very Effective. 

You cant have one without the other is the point I need to make. 

The work on new things is hampered by the need to mitigate server issues, some caused by 

dds, some caused by provider issues.

The AC is having to be updated constantly to battle the script writers.

This takes allot of LO's time.

So You can't have new content or even the AC without stable servers, 

You cant have new content without the AC working, cuz then only hax will come in. 

Right now even though I'd like to see content, it is worthless if the game is overran by hacks. 

Which is where we are at. 

 The MM still puts grouped golds vs silvers and they seem to have perfect aim with guns that have 

very little health impact in my own hands, not to mention mass use of wallhacks. 

N ya all know me, I see one confirmed hacker n I think all the goldies are in on it. 

 I wont be that way this time, but i will not say I trust them. 

So we have a game that is popped by 8 players most of the day, half of them exploit by having the other team throw

the other half hack ya, and the result is a few players just coming to hang out not k ing up. 

Or we have a small but decent amount of players but the dds and server kicks stop the game, 

Or we have maint down time. So not much time to have a legit mission happen.

Then they gotta throw the holidays in as a wrench.

We may not see this content update till feb or so, but it really doesn't matter if the hackers gonna 

be in all the missions. Being quiet and staying off forum doesn't help, ya still run me over.

Hey I got nothing to lose now, be no gold for the legit, no segregation from hackers they aren't all 

shadowed, otherwise I wouldn't be getting shot thru walls. So War it is by any means i can find. 

What R U gonna LO shadow me, so if im shadowed i only fight hackers who are shadowed.

Hell I already do. 

[DORIUS 12]

10 hours ago, Victoria97 said:

you are still clueless about the game

Yeah, I'm clueless... Just wait for new content, hoping it will solve the main issues affecting player churn: cheaters and DDoS attacks. 
New players have been joining for over a month now. They say they've seen short videos from streamer-players on TikTok, Reels, etc. 

If many players want constant new content, maybe the developers should consider a completely different concept for the new Contacts: change them every 2 months, with each new Contact having 15 levels to progress through, where you can earn specific event points that can be used to buy unique event content— but not enough points to unlock everything. And of course, each year, players would have to level up these new Contacts from scratch again. This would create the illusion of endless progression.
This is just one example of an idea. 

[MidnightQ 12]

5 hours ago, DORIUS said:

Yeah, I'm clueless... Just wait for new content, hoping it will solve the main issues affecting player churn: cheaters and DDoS attacks. 
New players have been joining for over a month now. They say they've seen short videos from streamer-players on TikTok, Reels, etc. 

If many players want constant new content, maybe the developers should consider a completely different concept for the new Contacts: change them every 2 months, with each new Contact having 15 levels to progress through, where you can earn specific event points that can be used to buy unique event content— but not enough points to unlock everything. And of course, each year, players would have to level up these new Contacts from scratch again. This would create the illusion of endless progression.
This is just one example of an idea. 

You are right LO should focus from the beginning of maintaining the server and create contact 15 levels every year and make them LAST LONG this way players have a reason to log in and play they want to get the latest gear and mods. The last contact was last year and people got it max in like 5 days and quit its hard for a small company that spend like over a year making contact and people finish it so fast the game play is the same thing since it was created people will get bored and move on but if you make it last a while then people have a reason to log in. Most of the players focus on their main characters to max enforcer and criminal and the rest just fun characters not too focus to max them because it takes forever. They can make the gear customizable to purchase thru armas or Joker store and the pre-made ones earned in the game. But if you keep putting your energy on trying to create events which is cool then you have to have team specific team for that and the rest of the team focus of maintaining the server and creating new contact. And when it comes for the events Valentines Eastern Halloween and Christmas should remain the same just add new titles weapon skins and gears to give a chance for new players to earn and pretty much to caught up with the current players.

Edited 17 hours ago by MidnightQ

[Victoria97 61]

8 hours ago, DORIUS said:

Yeah, I'm clueless... Just wait for new content, hoping it will solve the main issues affecting player churn: cheaters and DDoS attacks. 
New players have been joining for over a month now. They say they've seen short videos from streamer-players on TikTok, Reels, etc. 

If many players want constant new content, maybe the developers should consider a completely different concept for the new Contacts: change them every 2 months, with each new Contact having 15 levels to progress through, where you can earn specific event points that can be used to buy unique event content— but not enough points to unlock everything. And of course, each year, players would have to level up these new Contacts from scratch again. This would create the illusion of endless progression.
This is just one example of an idea. 

DDoS attacks are priority nevertheless. It doesn't need to be mentioned or wished for. That's absolute bottom of the bottom basics they need to do to keep the game running.

Its like stating we need electricity to play to APB. It is known. 

Cheaters are dealt with GFAC the learning anti cheat system or it isn't but that's the LO's stance. What can be expected here? I want your insight. What is your solution for cheaters? 

RTW had issues with cheaters, G1 had issues with cheaters, everybody always had issues with cheaters.

Wishing for total eradication of cheaters to me is like wishing to leave this solar system when we know that we need 9 years and 5 months to reach Pluto.

In other words, not during my lifetime, not during your lifetime or any of us here. Cheaters will always exist.

So imo we should stop wasting time wishing for things that will never truly happen, and focus to things which can embetter our current stay here, as long as it lasts. 

Main priority raising the population and new content floating every here and there to keep some of the population for longer than 5 days. 

 

  

8 hours ago, DORIUS said:

If many players want constant new content, maybe the developers should consider a completely different concept for the new Contacts: change them every 2 months, with each new Contact having 15 levels to progress through, where you can earn specific event points that can be used to buy unique event content— but not enough points to unlock everything. And of course, each year, players would have to level up these new Contacts from scratch again. This would create the illusion of endless progression.
This is just one example of an idea. 

 

This tough is a brilliant idea imo and I salute it, hopefully people in LO will read this and consider the idea @MageLO 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Victoria97

[MACKxBOLAN 485]

@MattScott All spending is stopped. 

You have corrupt staff in discord supporting or are hackers in game district, and or are sympathizers of hackers.

The only thing U get from me are reports on your Mods and GMs who i believe are in game hackers.

You don't ban the only legit U had. Your staff is allowing hackers to play.

I'll report anyone i see as a GM in District. This means anyone i think is hacking, i think is a discord gm. 

 I was removed from the Little Orbit discord without reason after paying you a little 40 bucks just cuz i felt bad

because of all the dds. As it turns out it is your own Staff trying to dds me offline and blatant hacking in dist. 

I didn't hacusate, i didn't break any rules, and no reason was given. So You're all corrupt and you will be receiving 

mass reports on your hacker friends. Anyone joining the hacker/GM side and speaking ill about me will be considered a 

hacker and staff. I suggest you golds in na start missing allot. I refuse to buy hacks even if you threaten me or ban me, i still wont buy your hax!

[MACKxBOLAN 485]

Everytime i try to help LO or spend or defend matt in forum, I get trouble with gms.

 So the new word is that i wont report anyone, or spend so i refuse to support LO until 

management is changed, and I refuse to help them catch their hackers.

Had the mod left a simple message or reason why, this wouldn't have happened. 

Mod has a lotta nerve to ban the most legit person ever in apb. 

without any warning or reason messaged. 

So very poor hostile management up the point of personally hating me. 

I'm guessing its just happenstance that i used discord then went to apb, got aimbotted in a mission, came 

back to discord and the server was gone. So ya i thought it was related, the mod being friends to the hack, yea 

thats what i thought. 

 So they may not be in Cahoots, but the gm def hates Mack. 

So mack will not help or assist LO but I also wont help hackers, so its the .38 only in missions. 

I wanna say this is a great xmas present LO