N-tecs balanced

[Noob_Guardian 423]

No really. It's the most balanced gun in the game, ever. That's why it's the most used, and any attempt to unseat it, is met with massive backlash.  NTEC ursus was a mistake purely done for making money off a then nerfed weapon, NTEC never stopped being god tier, every attempt at balancing has fell flat on it's face. You'll only ever on occassion see kill numbers with most other weapons over 20 kills, but never 30, unless someone's cheating, or using N-TEC.

 

Want to use any other weapon? Good luck, NTEC will likely dominate you unless you're using an OCA sub 10m and even then it's a 50/50 chance, or an hvr at 70m+ out. The fact that the massive elephant of imbalance remains untouched, simply goes to show how impossible it is to balance the thing, even after 3-4 iterations, it's never once been non-meta.

 

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Edited August 13 by Noob_Guardian

[EC2Jonathan 20]

MCD CLAN APPROVES OF THIS POST.

THE NTEC .45 COMBO HAS DOMINATED THE META FOR FAR TOO LONG.

ALL MCDOUBLERS WILL BE ASSIGNED THIS CASE!

[BlatMan 732]

It's the only alternative to the STAR when you're new, and people are reluctant to change what they're used to even if it's not the best. At some point it's not the weapon if you keep dying to it after many nerfs. Besides, it not like you don't have access to it.

 

 

[vsb 6207]

Any premade dropping 30 bombs on you with ntec can do it with any other weapon too bro 

 

but what the hell there’s only 300 players, let’s make ntec ttk .75 just for funsies

[koenyboy500 77]

STAR is underrated.

Infact (and I'm well aware the weapons are 95% the same) I think that the FAR is THE Assault Rifle in the game that has the best multi-purpose use. It is the middle ground between STAR and N-TEC and does both sustained fire (STAR) and accurate burst/semi-auto fire very well.

[Noob_Guardian 423]

4 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

STAR is underrated.

Infact (and I'm well aware the weapons are 95% the same) I think that the FAR is THE Assault Rifle in the game that has the best multi-purpose use. It is the middle ground between STAR and N-TEC and does both sustained fire (STAR) and accurate burst/semi-auto fire very well.

Star is great, it's functionally almost identical to FAR except for accuracy mods, reload, and .75ttk. Definitely underrated for how good it is. But, in top play, FAR performs better marginally, and NTEC is simply the best due to tapfire. I understand why the STAR wouldn't be the "best rifle" in the game which is fine. I think it's annoying that the NTEC feels like it outclasses everything within its range. I never understood why they didn't up it and the FAR's TTK slightly. Sure it wouldn't effect midrange burst/tapfire much, but CQC would be effected in a slightly more positive way "at least".

 

I'm leveling roles up and change weapons often so I get to feel the weaknesses of every weapon, and boy does the NTEC (especially ursus) come off as the most annoying thing to face in most situations. Even when I got Rifleman to 16, I could easily pull 15+ kills per match with ntec/ursus constistently. Ended up using FAR or star unless "trying hard" more often than not because I got tired of using it.

 

5 hours ago, vsb said:

Any premade dropping 30 bombs on you with ntec can do it with any other weapon too bro 

 

but what the hell there’s only 300 players, let’s make ntec ttk .75 just for funsies

Oh, i'm aware, normally it's from my teamates. We had the absolute unpleasure of an annoyingly long match, added ontop a near 9 minute 3 item heavy objective hold. Ursus/NTEC was the top 2 fraggers, the one with 37 changed to AV at the end of the game and picked up another like 8-10 deaths. He was like 30/6 initially. Though yeah, i dunno why they never .75'd ages ago, it wouldn't do much except help more close range weapons be more able to compete "slightly".

[Ardita 212]

On 8/14/2025 at 9:46 AM, vsb said:

but what the hell there’s only 300 players, let’s make ntec ttk .75 just for funsies

That's the main problem. 

[N66 103]

Another day another one..

Edited August 15 by N66

[Noob_Guardian 423]

On 8/15/2025 at 8:32 AM, N66 said:

Another day another one..

I'm a "Crazy ol' kook" for a reason xD

[Victoria97 42]

honestly ntec is not a problem, 45 is. 45 is literally destroying a game. Some people in FC literally don't even use primary weapon they just use 45. 
If there was a population of 10 000 players this would matter, but since game is dying slowly but certainly at this point every buff and nerf is already way way belated. 

If they nerf 45 people will switch to obeya pistol and do same thing. 
All pistols should be raised to 7 bullets ttk or simply deleted from the game. 

[koenyboy500 77]

8 hours ago, Victoria97 said:

honestly ntec is not a problem, 45 is. 45 is literally destroying a game. Some people in FC literally don't even use primary weapon they just use 45. 
If there was a population of 10 000 players this would matter, but since game is dying slowly but certainly at this point every buff and nerf is already way way belated. 

If they nerf 45 people will switch to obeya pistol and do same thing. 
All pistols should be raised to 7 bullets ttk or simply deleted from the game. 

Oh no not this again.

Honestly someone going toe-to-toe with me with a Obeya FBW is completely fine.

.45 just pushes it over the line. People keep complaining about .45 is op BUT WAIT NEXT GUN WILL BE [weapon] AND THAT WILL BE THE NEW..-

shut it. SHUT.

I'm done of that argument. I BET that if you'd put every single weapon TTK in an excel sheet and organise it high to low (or low to high) you would find a difference of 0.02 seconds each step.

FBW is fine. Colby 45.AP is not. (0.2 seconds of TTK diff by the way)

[Noob_Guardian 423]

6 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

Oh no not this again.

Honestly someone going toe-to-toe with me with a Obeya FBW is completely fine.

.45 just pushes it over the line. People keep complaining about .45 is op BUT WAIT NEXT GUN WILL BE [weapon] AND THAT WILL BE THE NEW..-

shut it. SHUT.

I'm done of that argument. I BET that if you'd put every single weapon TTK in an excel sheet and organise it high to low (or low to high) you would find a difference of 0.02 seconds each step.

FBW is fine. Colby 45.AP is not. (0.2 seconds of TTK diff by the way)

The issue a lot of times, tend to be quick burst damage is better than low damage over longer. It's why you see so few NFA/PDWS but tons of .45s, add in obeya pistols simply being "standard" and formerly being a bit bonkers with sprint shooting and 5 stk and you see why. However, FBW isn't really op, more annoying if macrod but that's it. They even changed the SNUB to the FBW as the starting pistol if i'm correct, so there's really not an issue with it at this point aside from personal angst and other pistols having issues competing due to being either different, weaker, or less accurate. We also don't have a great selection of semi auto pistols... FBW, SNUB, .45, fr0g are the only ones that come to mind, with NANO being the real only contender to compete aside from RFP which has its moments and was nerfed several times for it's strength for sprint shooting, burst damage, and range.

 

Fr0g and .45 suffer from the low TTK 5stk issue, but fr0g is balanced for its 10m range with it quite splendidly. It's not overpowered, and only competes in cqc with cqc weapons because that's its exact range, but loses to further engagements with them and rifles. .45 has more range and marginally more recoil which makes it harder to balance, they tried with a small mag, but gave it a decent reload speed, so not only is it great to finish off enemies, but spray and reload with cover is a thing. Fr0g is even better at finishing off in cqc but that's it's whole gig. Quite frankly I wouldn't know how to nerf .45 aside from a .8 ttk, a little more recoil (i wouldn't change it much), or slightly slower reload time.

 

If there was a bigger selection of pistols, maybe there'd be more and better contenders, but each does have its own "niche", aside from the .45 which was nerfed in range to try to make it less overbearing.

[Yapopal 204]

The problem is that the NTEC and AP 45 players are aiming for maximum productivity. To do this, most of them use various tricks to gain an advantage. This is getting to the point of absurdity. Twitch streams are an example of this. 
The most popular reviews in the Steam contain approximately the same message.: There are a lot of scammers in the game, the game is lagging, the meta weapon dominates. I am one of the 300 regular players and I can dispute these claims. But who needs it? 
The new player draws conclusions based on common sense. There's not much common sense in this game. As an example, I can cite jumping snipers, pistol shooters moving at supersonic speed from side to side, and so on. 
Over the 15 years of the project's existence, the successful experience of the game has degraded and fallen to the very bottom. At the moment, it all comes down to exploiting various loopholes, use bugs, using third-party graphics configurations and management settings. No balancing of weapon characteristics, no anti-cheat will help here.

[N66 103]

people complaining the game is p2w and complaining n-tec5 is OP all the time.

 

the only reason you complain about n-tec 5 is because it's more common, you die to it more.

[koenyboy500 77]

17 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said:

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I 100% agree.

Also about potentialy nerfing .45AP, I'd say give it a bigger magazine +2 and make it need +1 more shots to kill. I'm no statistics expert (I am, but I just cannot forsee how this would go) but I'd be curious to see how this would play out.

People have proven their 'skill' (if that's what someone would call it) with the weapon. Now let us tone down the skill-ceiling and also lower the skill-floor. I'm inclined to say 'buff the accuracy' as a trade-off but when I compare it to the Obeya-FBW it is already MUCH more accurate so I wouldn't want that to happen.

[cowhorseman 451]

Lets be honest here. the guns in APB are so horribley balanced it's not even funny. i have seen 45 users kill euryale users, i have seen sniper users take out smg users. i myself have been called a cheater for taking out people with the corner in cqc. The only real way to use any gun in APB is a pray to god you don't magically hit outside the cross hier 5 times in a row and die.

 

Unless your using shotguns. they suck big rooster. seriously a may 2 maybe 8 kill system with the pellets being random on if they hit even if your right in there face? screw that

Buff the shotguns again. they were terrifying for like a week before being renerfed into the floor.

 

also STOP NERFING EVERYTHING THIS ISN'T A SUPER SOAKER EVENT

[vsb 6207]

10 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

I 100% agree.

Also about potentialy nerfing .45AP, I'd say give it a bigger magazine +2 and make it need +1 more shots to kill. I'm no statistics expert (I am, but I just cannot forsee how this would go) but I'd be curious to see how this would play out.

 

You made an fbw with less bullets, congratulations on your “balance”