SARD Anti-Cheat Update

[BlatMan 724]

On 1/27/2025 at 3:42 AM, Yapopal said:

 

Matt, pay attention to the point of view of this community member. This is the point of view formed by the players who just come into play. They don't know about the Flavs configs, the mouse settings, the stretched screen, and other fraudulent client modifications that YOU HAVE ALLOWED. These modifications are essentially cheating.

I've been around since 2011 or so. I've seen it all. I remember the email Gamerfirst sent mentioning APB Reloaded that originally got my interest, after they sold off WarRock.

 

I've seen most versions of Flaw's config. I agree it's cheating, but I also understand why its needed. APB runs like crap by default. That's something Little Orbit kinda fixed with the 64 bit update, but it's still bad, and unacceptable for what little the game is doing.

 

By mouse settings, do you mean the mouse fix that multiplies your mouse input by 2? It's a workaround for APB's broken mouse input. Without going into detail, APB ignores slow mouse movement. This can help mitigate that at really low fps, but for most players it's snake oil.

 

There seems to be a high correlation with cheaters and stretched res, but playing at low resolution isn't cheating. If anything, it's giving yourself a major handicap since it removes some horizontal field of view.

[MACKxBOLAN 452]

I'm Done. How Dare You steal me from the good western server to that muck pit you call east na. 

so i gotta play knowns at 100ms

Matt abandons NA with hackers everywhere, screw your missions and East

and your cross district patootie pile. LO just made an Enemy. 

[Ardita 151]

11 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

I'm Done. How Dare You steal me from the good western server to that muck pit you call east na. 

so i gotta play knowns at 100ms

Matt abandons NA with hackers everywhere, screw your missions and East

and your cross district patootie pile. LO just made an Enemy. 

Make APB Great Again ... was not an option :C

[Pista 46]

Want to show people that SARD is working, start broadcasting bans like G1 did with FairFight.

[Ardita 151]

5 hours ago, Pista said:

Want to show people that SARD is working, start broadcasting bans like G1 did with FairFight.

But make it locked for comments so you wont get the sweaty hate-speech from others who might be that sweaty-toggle/on/off-cheaters themselves.

[Nagletz 227]

5 hours ago, Ardita said:

But make it locked for comments so you wont get the sweaty hate-speech from others who might be that sweaty-toggle/on/off-cheaters themselves.

Nah make it total drama mode, ain't that fun?

[Westford 182]

It would be great to see monthly SARD stats by Server/Faction/Rank.
Just add it to https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/

Non interactive, with no names to avoid the trash talk drama fest
that so many of us enjoyed during the Fairfight days.

I think that most players would agree that some/any type of regular
communication would go a long way in reassuring the community that
“things are getting done” with regards to those players who are not
supporters of fair gameplay.

If this type of SARD transparency is frowned upon by Little Orbit,
I’m confident or just hopeful, that this will be explained by an official post or
perhaps on the next AMA later this year.

 

[MACKxBOLAN 452]

26 minutes ago, Westford said:

explained by an official post or
perhaps on the next AMA later this year.

That might work for some of you, but after the last ama, 

and the all out refusal to answer the question of if sard is active 

server side in NA. 

 They refuse to answer the question, went as far as to insult a long time daily player's

opinion and or known public knowledge of certain people hacking. Saying that the people 

I thought were hackers were the legits, and the ones i considered legit were the hackers.

I have seen no bans in NA, noone missing. Nobody is talking about their cheat points, 

it's buss as usual in NA, you name it they are doing it. 

Matt unleashed all kind of toxics by unbanning, putting the few legits thru Hell.

So at this point even if they put up some sard statistics I wouldn't believe them. 

The threat system is rigged, new players come in hack to gold in a few missions. 

Golds harass legits all day, no sard to report to.

Now the game is played on all east servers so its not even in the USA.

So Matt no longer has a product to offer to the USA. 

I think he hates legits as much as the hackers do.

And I wouldn't waste my time trying to hear him on some ama with a bad connection. 

Then U patooties want to Steal a player from west when there is a pop, and shove me to east, 

where at the time the pop is no higher or lower than west, so the servers like 8-8 each n they wanna 

rob legits from west to force them to play hackers in the east at 100 ms.

As far as hackers and behavior is concerned this game is worse now than before LO

[Ardita 151]

On 1/31/2025 at 3:48 PM, Nagletz said:

Nah make it total drama mode, ain't that fun?

No?

[Nagletz 227]

5 hours ago, Ardita said:

No?

Why not?

[Ardita 151]

10 minutes ago, Nagletz said:

Why not?

drama no fun

[Nagletz 227]

40 minutes ago, Ardita said:

drama no fun

It is fun if you watch it, all these chat warriors after lost matches are the reason to play apb alone lol

[MACKxBOLAN 452]

As Long as LO stands behind the lie that sard is active when it isn't, or fails to clarify that. 

Then we have no report or recourse for cheaters and toxic acts.

LO rewards cheaters with gold after only a couple missions.

So LO supports cheaters, venomously hates legits

[Mitne 727]

On 1/31/2025 at 3:48 PM, Nagletz said:

Nah make it total drama mode, ain't that fun?

I was bullied for year and half for being banned by FF while playing legit.

Worst of it... by people who were actively cheating (and many of them found themselves on FF sooner or later).

Last thing we need in already toxic community of less than 500 people is dramas.

51 minutes ago, Nagletz said:

It is fun if you watch it, all these chat warriors after lost matches are the reason to play apb alone lol

If that's what drag you into APB... I don't think in the end that's game even for you.

[Nagletz 227]

35 minutes ago, Mitne said:

I was bullied for year and half for being banned by FF while playing legit.

Worst of it... by people who were actively cheating (and many of them found themselves on FF sooner or later).

Last thing we need in already toxic community of less than 500 people is dramas.

If that's what drag you into APB... I don't think in the end that's game even for you.

In case of false ban, yea, it can backfire. I can only feel sorry for you as i was banned for nothing too. See me in game to see my "aim-unassist" lol. But i see no reason why actual hackers should not be bullied and mocked for it. If you use cheats - you are a disgrace, period. 

Also, I'm a man of a lot of things... sadist is one of them by part. I love watching people letting it all out in chat, and being the reason of it adds more points to it lmao. :}

I wonder how i did not became one of cheaters at this point. These guys seem like having their best days in this game.

 

Edited February 2 by Nagletz

[Ardita 151]

2 hours ago, Nagletz said:

It is fun if you watch it, all these chat warriors after lost matches are the reason to play apb alone lol

Its not fun and not sober at all.

[Darkzero3802 615]

On 1/28/2025 at 1:17 AM, Bruhd101 said:

The thing is, I could have agreed, but I had one teammate who was actually trying to help but usually ended up like a 0-1-20 target practice. Well, that was when I last played the game, when every low-level gold was just blatantly cheating and withstanding a 2v1 where both enemies shot at the said person (I mean it might be worse than before with sard)

the person was totally 99% new to shooters in general and just had a horrid wifi and pc combined 

Again. New players who arent good can be legit green. But after a certain point it is questionable how your still green. It is way too easy to get bronze and bronze is considered bad. At one point everyone called silver bad cause everyone was gold (and cheated). Now with the pop so low your either silver or a cheating gold cause legit golds are just as rare as legit green threats. Matt doesnt care about APB nor does he want to spend the money to actually have a legit anti cheat system in place and hire enough people to handle the problem (between gms and devs to recode).

Anyone who has been here a minute knows that a hacker broke into the game, got the game codes and built a full cheat system around it so they cant be detected. Anyone who has been here since LO took over knows that Matt and LO have a high tolerance for hackers and have been doing the same thing over and over expecting different results each time. Back at the beginning I gave LO a chance and said to support them. Now I cant argue that as they have had the game long enough to know what to do, how to do it and what needs to be done. They just chose not to do it.

 

Merged.

 

On 1/31/2025 at 4:50 PM, Westford said:

It would be great to see monthly SARD stats by Server/Faction/Rank.
Just add it to https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/

Non interactive, with no names to avoid the trash talk drama fest
that so many of us enjoyed during the Fairfight days.

I think that most players would agree that some/any type of regular
communication would go a long way in reassuring the community that
“things are getting done” with regards to those players who are not
supporters of fair gameplay.

If this type of SARD transparency is frowned upon by Little Orbit,
I’m confident or just hopeful, that this will be explained by an official post or
perhaps on the next AMA later this year.

 

We have been calling on transparancy for years now in regards to anti cheat and what LO actually does if anything. But they say they are doing something and hide behind the no name and shame. Unless the community as a whole demands this and annoys the LO staff about it without lapse it will never change.

[MACKxBOLAN 452]

So Matt deletes sard, so no cheat points or any sort of way to combat cheaters or even report them. 

Oh the report is still there but it goes no where. So what is it. the old way of reporting via tickets and submitting video that wont 

be admissible to start with?

  So once again LO/Matt has Impeached the Honor of His Credibility. 

[Ardita 151]

17 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

So Matt deletes sard, so no cheat points or any sort of way to combat cheaters or even report them. 

Oh the report is still there but it goes no where. So what is it. the old way of reporting via tickets and submitting video that wont 

be admissible to start with?

  So once again LO/Matt has Impeached the Honor of His Credibility. 

Think I heard Matt talk about another solution, they updated the ticket system now. HOPEFULLY /report will be next one who gets fixed or combined to the new ticket system?!

[MACKxBOLAN 452]

4 hours ago, Ardita said:

another solution,

I have no intention of using the report feature, if matt wanted a clean game he wouldn't have unbanned them all. 

Ya know he went on n on about how good and effective sard was, yet at the time of those ramblings we saw zero action 

in NA. Then all the sudden one day, it was No Good and trash canned. 

 I see it as a very long lie, as if he is more on the hackers side than legits. 

He wants all fake golds in district, won't allow mission that don't include golds, 

whom I think have exploited or cheated one way or another to get such a high threat level. 

Oh they gonna say gold is ez to get, legit. 

So then matt wants all golds and skilled high performance players to fight regular players.

 I speculate that most use some sort of point multiplier to get the massive score it would take to get gold 

in two missions.

Further more I believe the threat system is rigged for hax only, in that if you don't get gold within a few missions, 

you never will no matter how gud you are or get. So the account is basically stymied, or locked away from gold. 

 Oh no I wouldn't snitch now for any reason. I'm not gonna rock the boat anymore. 

I mean even if you reported, say had vid evidence ect, the report would disappear or be deleted.

Yea I think there is a 'Mole', I think its All Moles. 

 Matt wants a community of VR-Chat types with hax running the game for only them and noone else. 

Well let em all hack each other, I don't gaf anymore, I just hope for matts sake they have money.

 I won't spend, help otw, report or give 1 iota of support or help to LO