Letter 25 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) What's current best sniper (non-mobile), SMG, auto secondary, non-auto shotgun, semi-auto rifle, assault rifle, LMG in ARMAS? Edited July 4, 2018 by Letter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Similarities 226 Posted July 4, 2018 Dog Ear (for mobile), HVR (for non-mobile), OCA/PMG, CSG, Oscar, N-SSW/Rabid These are just my opinions though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Letter 25 Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Similarities said: Dog Ear (for mobile), HVR (for non-mobile), OCA/PMG, CSG, Oscar, N-SSW/Rabid These are just my opinions though. Thanks much! OCA Whisper PR2 I assume? Since it has more range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Similarities 226 Posted July 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Letter said: Thanks much! OCA Whisper PR2 I assume? Since it has more range. Yeah, the Whisper PR2 is great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanometic 265 Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Letter said: Thanks much! OCA Whisper PR2 I assume? Since it has more range. 1 hour ago, Similarities said: Yeah, the Whisper PR2 is great. If you want a whisper I would recommend the PDW-58 'Kris' it is the only modable version of the whisper. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Similarities 226 Posted July 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Nanometic said: If you want a whisper I would recommend the PDW-58 'Kris' it is the only modable version of the whisper. Ah, I often forget this weapon even exists since I haven't used it, thanks for reminding me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
professionalgamer 32 Posted July 4, 2018 here is my evaluation of points (note that i am the best apb player) Dog Ear (for mobile), HVR (for non-mobile), OCA/PMG, CSG, Oscar, N-SSW/Rabid dog ear is good hvr is not an armas gun oca and pmg are bad and also not armas guns csg is okay oscar is okay nssw is horrible rabid is bad PDW-58 'Kris' is an oca and therefore also bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Letter 25 Posted July 4, 2018 Thanks for the information! I've always assumed semi-autos are counter-sniper weapons with at least 60m range - so what's the role of Oscar with it's 40m range? A replacement of an assault rifle for people who are really good with tapping LMB or use perfect mouse-wheel fire? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickyan 13 Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Letter said: so what's the role of Oscar with it's 40m range? fuck-all-anti-everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INSANITYV2 4 Posted July 4, 2018 Instead of dog ear I'd get the oblivion. Drop a cj3 on it and it's dangerous Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
professionalgamer 32 Posted July 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Letter said: Thanks for the information! I've always assumed semi-autos are counter-sniper weapons with at least 60m range - so what's the role of Oscar with it's 40m range? A replacement of an assault rifle for people who are really good with tapping LMB or use perfect mouse-wheel fire? mouse wheeling is not necessary, and is ultimately worse than clicking in all cases (except a few glitches u can do with other guns) oscar is a very effective close range weapon and mid range support weapon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Letter 25 Posted July 5, 2018 10 hours ago, INSANITYV2 said: Instead of dog ear I'd get the oblivion. Drop a cj3 on it and it's dangerous While we are at it - why do people recommend cj3 that often? It's just 7% increase and seemingly doesn't make a lot of difference (1sec vs 0.93sec). I fail to see any difference - especially considering current matchmaking where my weapons/mods/etc. don't matter at all when I'm being matched vs max level golds in every other game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INSANITYV2 4 Posted July 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Letter said: While we are at it - why do people recommend cj3 that often? It's just 7% increase and seemingly doesn't make a lot of difference (1sec vs 0.93sec). I fail to see any difference - especially considering current matchmaking where my weapons/mods/etc. don't matter at all when I'm being matched vs max level golds in every other game. Trust me it matters. I went up against someone else who had an oblivion with ir3 and hs3. We both start shooting at each other, and I end up with the kill just because I shot faster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) On 7/4/2018 at 12:09 PM, Letter said: Thanks for the information! I've always assumed semi-autos are counter-sniper weapons with at least 60m range - so what's the role of Oscar with it's 40m range? A replacement of an assault rifle for people who are really good with tapping LMB or use perfect mouse-wheel fire? Semi-autos are not only intended for long range. The SR 15 is a close range semi-auto and the Oscar is a close-mid range semi-auto. If you are good timing your shots and you don't mind the pain in your finger and you can track accurately while clickering...those can be useful to you. Or just use the scroll trick, even though it makes it just the harder (for me). 8 hours ago, Letter said: While we are at it - why do people recommend cj3 that often? It's just 7% increase and seemingly doesn't make a lot of difference (1sec vs 0.93sec). I fail to see any difference - especially considering current matchmaking where my weapons/mods/etc. don't matter at all when I'm being matched vs max level golds in every other game. it massively descreases ttk in fact. Think of 7% per shot, and when you need 5 shots to kill (N-Tec) that's 4x7% = 28%, and that figure just goes up as you need more shots to kill and have a higher RoF - say for example with an OCA. But it's also beneficial with an HVR when you can fire just a tad earlier than the guy not using CJ3. There is a downside to it however in burst-fire weapons where it just fires the subsequent bullets in the burst faster while maintaining the overall cyclic rate of the weapon, so it's not really suited for use in the Oscar, or Obir (it also increases the spread massively, so that's the only thing you will experience it doing in those weapons). Edited July 5, 2018 by Sniperturtle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Letter 25 Posted July 6, 2018 15 hours ago, Sniperturtle said: that's 4x7% = 28% By this logic a gun will have 105% time reduction for 15 shots ttk i.e. it'll kill instantly or even before you start shooting. Actually 7% means (or at least it should) you'll get 15 shots by the time you usually get 14 so for non-rapid firing guns it just doesn't make any sense (yet people slap it into slow firing rifles). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) On 7/6/2018 at 5:48 AM, Letter said: By this logic a gun will have 105% time reduction for 15 shots ttk i.e. it'll kill instantly or even before you start shooting. Actually 7% means (or at least it should) you'll get 15 shots by the time you usually get 14 so for non-rapid firing guns it just doesn't make any sense (yet people slap it into slow firing rifles). No, you will fire 15 shots in half the time. The likelyhood of you missing more shots will be increased as well Edited July 7, 2018 by Sniperturtle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaredofsnakes 52 Posted July 14, 2018 My muscles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanometic 265 Posted July 14, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 9:32 AM, professionalgamer said: oca and pmg are bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DopeSV 9 Posted July 14, 2018 Hmm....Brick? LMG-Case K.O Assault rifle-FAR 'Spearhead' or ATAC 424(Just for fun) Semi-Automatic-STAC 10 - (Scope) R&D III Shotguns-Joker TAS20 - Stock or Shredder EB(Just for fun :D) Sniper Rifles-ISS-b 'Dog Ear' or PSR 'Kite' R&D III/N-HVR 762 Dvah(If you dont wanna max sniper role) SMG-PDW-57 'Stiletto'(From Loyalty Reward's) Secondary-Joker RFP-9 'Fang'(Secondary OBIR/Famas just OP gun) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stateofthegame 23 Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) On 7/4/2018 at 2:34 PM, Letter said: What's current best sniper (non-mobile), SMG, auto secondary, non-auto shotgun, semi-auto rifle, assault rifle, LMG in ARMAS? In-terms of ARMAS exclusive items (not including reskins). Most ARMAS items can be attained in-game with a different model, you're better off spending your money on items you can't get in-game, don't throw money at reskins unless you REALLY like the gun.High-Velocity Rifle - HVR-243 'Scout' ; I personally like the RT1 the most, avoid anything with a silencer. Submachine Gun - OCA 'Whisper' variants ; all of these are good, personally I like the PR1 over the PR2Shotgun - Colby CSG variants ; I like the PR1 the most as I find IR3 helps with damage consistency, the TAS is also a good choice.Semi-Auto Rifle - Technically the only exclusive is the SBSR which is quite bad - do not buy it! The OBIR 'Vladivostock' has all the mods you want to use on the OBIR so I'd recommend this if you don't want to buy slotted weapons. I'd personally avoid the Obeya 'Below Zero' as HB3 really hurts your damage and your range. The OSCAR is also an honourable mention as you can otherwise only get this late in the game.Assault Rifle - If you like SMGs more, choose the ACES Rifle. If you prefer the STAR/NTEC choose the FAR. If you want something inbetween choose the ATAC. Light Machine Gun - If you like the NTEC, choose the NSSW 3-Slot, it's basically an LMG version of the NTEC. AVOID the swarm, they're terrible. Edited July 15, 2018 by UpholdThePeace 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Similarities 226 Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 11:48 PM, Letter said: By this logic a gun will have 105% time reduction for 15 shots ttk i.e. it'll kill instantly or even before you start shooting. Actually 7% means (or at least it should) you'll get 15 shots by the time you usually get 14 so for non-rapid firing guns it just doesn't make any sense (yet people slap it into slow firing rifles). It does make sense on non-rapid firing guns, you can fire all guns quicker with it, as in, you bolt the HVR faster, and the carbine's cyclic fire rate is increased. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites