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[PingOVER9000 179]

4 hours ago, NikkiCasinoKnows said:

Whatever royal  boobshit you wrote about creating entertainment and profit ..

You clearly have the idea confused or no idea what you are talking about, anway.. This game has dried  everything under their hands and what it can offer, it has already past its limits, nobody consider "the last called updates" and roadmaps maps sort of updates, just exploits for streching the expire date of Apb.

 

LO wants money? .. ok,  before  LO has to make new contenents worth of 5 years of nothing...  making or declaring empty promises/ half truths,  it doesnt work anymore.

 

1 hour ago, Thial said:

1 hour ago, Dead_Game said:

The delusion is alarming.

He wants to show his skill.exe
That's literally it, oh and flame you while he's at it.

Well.. I think who little who more, we all are a bunch of delusional and bitter for how this game was and is  managed.

 

[Dead_Game 72]

46 minutes ago, PingOVER9000 said:

You clearly have the idea confused or no idea what you are talking about, anway.. This game has dried  everything under their hands and what it can offer, it has already past its limits, nobody consider "the last called updates" and roadmaps maps sort of updates, just exploits for streching the expire date of Apb.

 

LO wants money? .. ok,  before  LO has to make new contenents worth of 5 years of nothing...  making or declaring empty promises/ half truths,  it doesnt work anymore.

 

Well.. I think who little who more, we all are a bunch of delusional and bitter for how this game was and is  managed.

 

 well put.
Game is dead and delusional people need to know that LO is just milking the pennies they can get with the dead game.
LO sold the actual game and this is just a dead shell of APB Reloaded or LO's Cow 

Edited July 8, 2023 by Dead_Game

[TheMessiah 424]

5 hours ago, NikkiCasinoKnows said:

this will grow be the biggest mess on the internet in no time

this will be so big this server alone will cover your development costs

the only mess is in ur head...

[Y2Venom 199]

2 hours ago, Thial said:

No buddy, the pop is low due to cheaters, griefing, always putting ARMAS first, neglect by both G1 and LO, deadlines missed by 10 years which ultimately even lead to the engine upgrade being cancelled, false bans by silver GMs, silvers balancing the game etc etc, I could keep on going. Not because "people are restricted". In what way are you restricted ? You can't cheat ? Flame people ? Grief ? It's clear what your goal is with this, you just want a dogshit server for all of the banned players. And yes I'm, talking about cheating and griefing as everything else you listed is in the game so those are the only 2 things you want to explicitly allow therefore your goals are clear. 

Personally i thought G1 did a very good job against cheaters and griefers. I remember them coming onto the servers and kicking dethreaters who were farming bronze players and issuing bans. 

LO came in and offered an olive branch to the cheaters, gave the accounts back. But they never really addressed the issues in the game. Every move since then was cutting their nose of despite their face. They listened to the wrong people. I still hold out hope. Matchmaking can be fixed, but they need to grow a pair and do the necessary which will upset the "so called Golds"

[Thial 176]

9 hours ago, Y2Venom said:

Personally i thought G1 did a very good job against cheaters and griefers. I remember them coming onto the servers and kicking dethreaters who were farming bronze players and issuing bans. 

LO came in and offered an olive branch to the cheaters, gave the accounts back. But they never really addressed the issues in the game. Every move since then was cutting their nose of despite their face. They listened to the wrong people. I still hold out hope. Matchmaking can be fixed, but they need to grow a pair and do the necessary which will upset the "so called Golds"

They didn't. Lots of false bans were issued simply due to streamers and the community crying about some people to which they themselves admitted or perhaps it was LO that uncovered that this was the case, don't remember anymore. Nobody ever did a good job against cheaters as you can instantly reroll and continue cheating so it literally doesn't matter if people will get banned or not. And this was the case as blatant cheaters were sometimes cheating every day for 1-2 months before being banned so I'm pretty sure that at some point they just didn't care anymore.

I believe that only adopting a system where you have to register with your real ID would help. So when you get caught cheating your whole ID gets banned and you can't play anymore. In some places cheaters are also taken to court where they have to pay severe fines. If we won't have strict systems like that then cheating will never end I'm afraid. But of course people always use the privacy argument against this as if corporations like google didn't already know everything about them anyway.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Thial

[Y2Venom 199]

3 hours ago, Thial said:

They didn't. Lots of false bans were issued simply due to streamers and the community crying about some people to which they themselves admitted or perhaps it was LO that uncovered that this was the case, don't remember anymore.
I believe that only adopting a system where you have to register with your real ID would help. So when you get caught cheating your whole ID gets banned and you can't play anymore. In some places cheaters are also taken to court where they have to pay severe fines. If we won't have strict systems like that then cheating will never end I'm afraid. But of course people always use the privacy argument against this as if corporations like google didn't already know everything about them anyway.

They were not false bans, they were cheating. They were the equivelent of somebody who does the crime, getting off on a technicality or a mistake on the paperwork. Everybody knew they were guilty, could see it happeneing, but they had done enough to evade the system. G1 simply put the foot down on them.

I think this is where LO put their foot in it. In offering the olive branch and bringing back the cheaters. They set the presedence of "falsebans" and only using Anticheat to determine who is cheating and who is not. Now we are all left in this situation.

[Thial 176]

40 minutes ago, Y2Venom said:

They were not false bans, they were cheating. They were the equivelent of somebody who does the crime, getting off on a technicality or a mistake on the paperwork. Everybody knew they were guilty, could see it happeneing, but they had done enough to evade the system. G1 simply put the foot down on them.

I think this is where LO put their foot in it. In offering the olive branch and bringing back the cheaters. They set the presedence of "falsebans" and only using Anticheat to determine who is cheating and who is not. Now we are all left in this situation.

There were absolutely cases of false bans taking place. Some live on stream mid mission because either someone was playing against someone from G1 or they had contacts at G1 or G1 was watching the stream and it was bad PR to have a "cheater" in the match. There were several instances of people being banned because they were disliked by silvers / low golds who were spreading misinformation everywhere that they were cheating. Some people were even banned because G1 themselves disliked some players or banned some sketchy players for good measure because they couldn't tell if they are legit or not.

Also how do you expect G1 to configure fair fight correctly if entire G1 was bronze/silver as they were playing on streams from time to time so you could see that they have no idea what it means to be good. When LO took over they said that they have found a ton of instances of false bans, that's why LO decided that they can't in good faith accept those bans and have to reset the whole thing.

There's a news by Matt Scott which states the following: https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/2018/6/7/june-2018-anti-cheat-update

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In my Q&A I mentioned that I had done a lot of research into many of the FairFight bans, and due to a number of factors, I found many permanent bans that were either blatantly incorrect or too subjective for my comfort level. As of this release, we will be unbanning a significant of those players because it's impossible for me to tell who cheated and who didn't. 

You can also listen to what Matt Scott has to say at 11:40 in the Q&A itself.

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Thial

[Thial 176]

5 hours ago, Dead_Game said:

Snipped.    - Azukii

I'm quoting Matt Scott from an article I have posted a link to.
Kempington was just hosting the Q&A on Twitch which I have now posted a link to as well with the timestamp.

[Dead_Game 72]

1 minute ago, Thial said:

I'm quoting Matt Scott. Kempington was just hosting the Q&A on Twitch.

LO just asked these hypocrites opinion on these things rather than actual players lol. There were false bans(minority/ unfortunates)  but majority were not false. Right now only bans LO hands out are not for cheating. 
LO dont care if you are cheating as long as you stream the game. It has come to that.
 

[Thial 176]

11 minutes ago, Dead_Game said:

LO just asked these hypocrites opinion on these things rather than actual players lol. There were false bans(minority/ unfortunates)  but majority were not false. Right now only bans LO hands out are not for cheating. 
LO dont care if you are cheating as long as you stream the game. It has come to that.
 

Sure if you will count all of the rerolls and blatant cheaters then of course the false bans are a minority but it's important to recognize that false bans were taking place probably pretty often as Matt Scott said that they were subjective which tells you that G1 was impulsive and/or was acting out without enough evidence.
I don't know what's happening right now as I have left around 2019 since I saw that nothing is being fixed or improved and the game is stuck in limbo and will probably remain that way until the community dies out.

I did play recently and I haven't faced any cheaters. I don't doubt that there are some but as usual I'm sure that a lot of people are also hackusating anyone who's better than them.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Thial

[Dead_Game 72]

10 minutes ago, Thial said:

Sure if you will count all of the rerolls and blatant cheaters then of course the false bans are a minority but it's important to recognize that false bans were taking place probably pretty often as Matt Scott said that they were subjective which tells you that G1 was impulsive and/or was acting out without enough evidence.
I don't know what's happening right now as I have left around 2019 since I saw that nothing is being fixed or improved and the game is stuck in limbo and will probably remain that way until the community dies out.

 G1 was very partial. No disagreement there and cheaters couldnt cheat streaming the game without getting banned but now they can. Nothing is fixed except they made the engine to 64bit to support some extend of newer VCs which is an outdated update ( took them 5 years ) , other than that no new  content at all .  its dead and but servers are still getting maintained ( weekly restart )  lol. 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Dead_Game

[Deadliest 377]

1 hour ago, Y2Venom said:

They were not false bans, they were cheating. They were the equivelent of somebody who does the crime, getting off on a technicality or a mistake on the paperwork. Everybody knew they were guilty, could see it happeneing, but they had done enough to evade the system. G1 simply put the foot down on them.

I think this is where LO put their foot in it. In offering the olive branch and bringing back the cheaters. They set the presedence of "falsebans" and only using Anticheat to determine who is cheating and who is not. Now we are all left in this situation.

Matt literally says there were false FF bans and even tiggs manually banned players without any evidence, the reason why Matt had to unbanned everyone because there were a mix of cheaters being FF banned and legits falsely banned. Since legits are being falsely bans they couldn't tell which were the actually cheaters,  customer support don't even investigate ban appeals, if they did it would take a lot of time case by case per player, so unbanning everyone was the only choice of being fair.

 

So they set Fairfight threshold and if somehow a player trigger's it or flags by playing the game legit without any cheat software and ends up ban its justified? Do some research on APB reloaded and it's history how corrupt GMs were and tiggs, btw it took over the years for tiggs to identified a false positive set previously by FF, which is too late to go through all the ban appeals made.

 

I was the few lucky ones to be unbanned by tiggs before Matt Scott unbanned everyone, pretty sure she knew she f*cked up before LO took over and started to look into fairfight to cover her tracks. Probably she who manually false banned me who knows?

 

Being False bans are no good and it hurts the players.

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Deadliest

[Y2Venom 199]

1 hour ago, Deadliest said:

Matt literally says there were false FF bans and even tiggs manually banned players without any evidence, the reason why Matt had to unbanned everyone because there were a mix of cheaters being FF banned and legits falsely banned. Since legits are being falsely bans they couldn't tell which were the actually cheaters,  customer support don't even investigate ban appeals, if they did it would take a lot of time case by case per player, so unbanning everyone was the only choice of being fair.

 

So they set Fairfight threshold and if somehow a player trigger's it or flags by playing the game legit without any cheat software and ends up ban its justified? Do some research on APB reloaded and it's history how corrupt GMs were and tiggs, btw it took over the years for tiggs to identified a false positive set previously by FF, which is too late to go through all the ban appeals made.

 

I was the few lucky ones to be unbanned by tiggs before Matt Scott unbanned everyone, pretty sure she knew she f*cked up before LO took over and started to look into fairfight to cover her tracks. Probably she who manually false banned me who knows?

 

Being False bans are no good and it hurts the players.

 

I can name you multiple players who were "false banned" , all of which were cheating. We know they were cheating after they accidently discussed it openly.  All the legit players i know, no one false ban ever.

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[Deadliest 377]

11 hours ago, Y2Venom said:

I can name you multiple players who were "false banned" , all of which were cheating. We know they were cheating after they accidently discussed it openly.  All the legit players i know, no one false ban ever.

Do you know the meaning of false ban?  

So some dude claims they were falsely banned and later open up they were actually cheating? That’s not a false ban…  you base your judgement on a few friends who were legit and never been banned meaning no legit gets banned by FF? This is your conclusion???

 

You were never a victim of a false banned you wouldn’t know, unless it happens to you.

 

either way the players who were unbanned cheating or not don’t even play anymore so idk what’s your concern if they unbanned everyone previously most of the players had  2nd accounts. 

[Y2Venom 199]

On 7/10/2023 at 5:56 AM, Deadliest said:

Do you know the meaning of false ban?  

So some dude claims they were falsely banned and later open up they were actually cheating? That’s not a false ban…  you base your judgement on a few friends who were legit and never been banned meaning no legit gets banned by FF? This is your conclusion???

 

You were never a victim of a false banned you wouldn’t know, unless it happens to you.

 

either way the players who were unbanned cheating or not don’t even play anymore so idk what’s your concern if they unbanned everyone previously most of the players had  2nd accounts. 

yes, it was a blanket term used as an olive branch to return accounts back to players that everbody knew were cheating. It is something i would have done myself, if i had taken over APB.  Plenty of players openly discussed getting their ban reversed as a "false ban" despite them actually using cheats. I would suggesst that of all the players "False Banned" 99.9% were cheating in some way shape or form. 

[Deadliest 377]

8 hours ago, Y2Venom said:

yes, it was a blanket term used as an olive branch to return accounts back to players that everbody knew were cheating. It is something i would have done myself, if i had taken over APB.  Plenty of players openly discussed getting their ban reversed as a "false ban" despite them actually using cheats. I would suggesst that of all the players "False Banned" 99.9% were cheating in some way shape or form. 

99.9% were cheating? so you telling me you know 99.9% of the players banned by FF from multiple servers investigated each player's banned? you don't work for Gamerfirst, you are just an average APB player playing their game, you have no way of knowing. 

 

 

 

The reverse un-banned happen in 2018 why do you hold such a grudge against it? they already punish all accounts, including false bans by stripping away JT$ & APB$. It was a good decision by Mattscott to clean up the mess left by tiggs. 

 

Mattscott is far more competent than Tiggs, think about it? what has Tiggs done over the years for APB reloaded? Nothing but lies and feeding the community with sales after a banned wave, just to milk & fool players like yourself in believing Tiggs did a great job.

 

I have proof of false banned by FF 2016 MAY, even a video upon login in was met with a banned, apparently the banned reason falls in the category of 'hack' which was BS.  Contacted customer support for a banned appeal Tiggs replied reviewed my account and told me my account will remain suspended. A year later FEB 2018 an email from Tiggs, she had been reviewing some flags that were set previously in Fairfight and identified a false positive, my account did trigger that particular rule set and my account was lifted?

 

So I was banned on 2016 took a year later to found out it was a false positive? if this was another gaming company I would have been compensated by a lot. Now think of how many were falsely trigger by this rule-set. 

 

Tigg's lied. 

 

Edited July 15, 2023 by Deadliest

[cowhorseman 441]

1 hour ago, Deadliest said:

99.9% were cheating? so you telling me you know 99.9% of the players banned by FF from multiple servers investigated each player's banned? you don't work for Gamerfirst, you are just an average APB player playing their game, you have no way of knowing. 

 

 

 

The reverse un-banned happen in 2018 why do you hold such a grudge against it? they already punish all accounts, including false bans by stripping away JT$ & APB$. It was a good decision by Mattscott to clean up the mess left by tiggs. 

 

Mattscott is far more competent than Tiggs, think about it? what has Tiggs done over the years for APB reloaded? Nothing but lies and feeding the community with sales after a banned wave, just to milk the players like yourself in believing Tiggs did a great job.

 

I have proof of false banned by FF 2016 MAY, even a video upon login in was met with a banned, apparently the banned reason falls in the category of 'hack' which was BS.  Contacted customer support for a banned appeal Tiggs replied reviewed my account and told me my account will remain suspended. A year later FEB 2018 an email from Tiggs, she had been reviewing some flags that were set previously in Fairfight and identified a false positive, my account did trigger that particular rule set and my account was lifted?

 

So I was banned on 2016 took a year later to found out it was a false positive? if this was another gaming company I would have been compensated by a lot. Now think of how many were falsely trigger by this rule-set. 

 

Tigg's lied. 

 

anyone who says tiggs was a good person ethier is getting paid by her or is just lower then room temp iq. she got mad over anything banned for any thing aswell as lied abused her status and would pm insults threats and ask what you would do about her, clearly forgetting theres those higher then her.

 

and if anyone is worried about LOs income you can legit google that.and for those who want i could only find that number is around 4.5M for rev.