! jogzi 2 Posted June 23, 2018 I was wondering if Little Orbit has plans for for adding GNU/Linux support for APB, maybe something for the Arch Distro, since the PS4 and xbox are pretty much Linux machines what do you guys think should we have something like this?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Too_many_snowflakes 80 Posted June 23, 2018 Who uses Linux outside of school?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
! jogzi 2 Posted June 23, 2018 1 minute ago, TrinityFSB said: Who uses Linux outside of school?? Well ma'am you would be surprised a lot of people use linux as their desktop operating system of choice 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Too_many_snowflakes 80 Posted June 23, 2018 Just now, ! jogzi said: Well ma'am you would be surprised a lot of people use linux as their desktop operating system of choice Why though? What exactly are the advantages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
! jogzi 2 Posted June 23, 2018 Just now, TrinityFSB said: Why though? What exactly are the advantages? Extra stability in the game, normally Linux games run a lot better then windows because there's less bloat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, TrinityFSB said: Who uses Linux outside of school?? I would, Microsoft is on its last breath anyways. Linux is the future - just look at smartphones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted June 23, 2018 3 hours ago, ! jogzi said: I was wondering if Little Orbit has plans for for adding GNU/Linux support for APB, maybe something for the Arch Distro, since the PS4 and xbox are pretty much Linux machines what do you guys think should we have something like this?? The Xbox One is anything but a Linux machine, I'm surprised you would even say this. The PS4 OS is called Orbis OS which is a FreeBSD derivative and not quite linux. Either way, supporting Linux would require the game to support Vulkan (since no developer studio would want to deal with OpenGL anymore) which is a massive undertaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiida 455 Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) I saw someone ask if Linux support would be added when the devs were in FC last week, they said it's a real possibility for the future. I'd expect it to be way after UE3.5 release though. Edited June 23, 2018 by Kiida Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninetenduh 40 Posted June 23, 2018 Did you seriously just now called Xbox "Basically a Linux machine"? you called something running Windows a "Linux machine"., i don't know if you are able to distinguish between Linux and Windows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottDaniels 30 Posted June 23, 2018 13 hours ago, ! jogzi said: Extra stability in the game, normally Linux games run a lot better then windows because there's less bloat Linux is more stable, games run better in windows though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted June 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Kiida said: it's a real possibility for the future hold on to your pocket protectors boys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nymphi--DoubleDee 83 Posted June 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Sniperturtle said: I would, Microsoft is on its last breath anyways. Linux is the future - just look at smartphones. Yup... Totally on it's way out.... http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share Also, how are you enjoying that 0.74% marketshare? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninetenduh 40 Posted June 24, 2018 Yea a 900 Billion Dollar Company is on its last breath, Obviously, I mean 900 Billion networth is an absolute indicator of bankruptcy. Sometimes I wonder how people installed windows let alone Linux with comments like that. Linux has it's pros an Cons, but the cons especially for gaming overweight any positive feature you can pull out of your magic hat. We get it, you like Linux, go ahead and enjoy barely any games or working programs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mojical 160 Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) I really wish the problem was just the lack of games available for the platform, but drivers and the overall fragmentation between display servers, window managers and distributions really do get in the way of gaming on Linux. However, if it weren't for gaming (which is the reason I dual boot) I'd definitely have shifted away from Windows at least ten years ago. Windows is just far too bloated that it barely fits in a DVD at this point, and the update system is atrocious. Also, Linux is just better suited for coding and development, to the point that Microsoft even offers an official Ubuntu subsystem with Windows 10. While this would help some players who want to make Linux their main or even only OS, most people who use Linux and play games regularly already have a dual-boot setup or even a virtual machine with direct GPU access for gaming, so it wouldn't make a huge difference for existing players. However, it might be a good way to attract Linux Steam users looking for something new to play on their OS. Either way, Steam is supported on Linux so at least that would make the game easy to install on all popular distributions, in the rather unlikely case that the dev team follows through with it. Edited June 24, 2018 by Lyfeld Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nndrei 129 Posted June 24, 2018 Windows has a lot of compatibility problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nymphi--DoubleDee 83 Posted June 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, Lyfeld said: I really wish the problem was just the lack of games available for the platform, but drivers and the overall fragmentation between display servers, window managers and distributions really do get in the way of gaming on Linux. However, if it weren't for gaming (which is the reason I dual boot) I'd definitely have shifted away from Windows at least ten years ago. Windows is just far too bloated that it barely fits in a DVD at this point, and the update system is atrocious. Also, Linux is just better suited for coding and development, to the point that Microsoft even offers an official Ubuntu subsystem with Windows 10. While this would help some players who want to make Linux their main or even only OS, most people who use Linux and play games regularly already have a dual-boot setup or even a virtual machine with direct GPU access for gaming, so it wouldn't make a huge difference for existing players. However, it might be a good way to attract Linux Steam users looking for something new to play on their OS. Either way, Steam is supported on Linux so at least that would make the game easy to install on all popular distributions, in the rather unlikely case that the dev team follows through with it. I keep seeing people complain about these "update problems" on Win10... I've never experienced it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mojical 160 Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Where do I start... The 1804 update from a few months ago ruined sound quality for me and a few clan mates. This could be fixed by uninstalling the audio driver and reinstalling the one provided by the manufacturer, but it was annoying and a waste of time. Also my PC attempted and rolled back the same update several times until I manually reinstalled the OS. I've had several cases among friends and family members where I've had to reinstall their OS from scratch because of how badly mangled the OS had become after an update. Not to mention that there are few things more annoying than having to wait for a massive pointless feature update to install right after the PC turns on. This is especially problematic for slowish laptops which take longer to install updates. Meanwhile, Linux distros can update its software package by package even while it's being used actively, and typical end-user systems only need reboots for Linux itself as in the kernel. Server distros of Linux can even update the kernel without rebooting the machine at all by using something like Kernelcare or Ksplice, and these technologies are 10 years old. Edited June 24, 2018 by Lyfeld Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nymphi--DoubleDee 83 Posted June 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Lyfeld said: Where do I start... The 1804 update from a few months ago ruined sound quality for me and a few clan mates. This could be fixed by uninstalling the audio driver and reinstalling the one provided by the manufacturer, but it was annoying and a waste of time. Also my PC attempted and rolled back the same update several times until I manually reinstalled the OS. I've had several cases among friends and family members where I've had to reinstall their OS from scratch because of how badly mangled the OS had become after an update. Not to mention that there are few things more annoying than having to wait for a massive pointless feature update to install right after the PC turns on. This is especially problematic for slowish laptops which take longer to install updates. Meanwhile, Linux distros can update its software package by package even while it's being used actively, and typical end-user systems only need reboots for Linux itself as in the kernel. Server distros of Linux can even update the kernel without rebooting the machine at all by using something like Kernelcare or Ksplice, and these technologies are 10 years old. The only issue I had, was when my Win10N installed a massive update, which uninstalled the media pack. Which they then released. Just a small little download, and done. Other than that, I have never had an issue with Win10 perstering me about updates, restarting on it's own, unistalling drivers and the like, or anything else. Guess I am lucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperturtle 65 Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 11:15 PM, Nymphi--DoubleDee said: Yup... Totally on it's way out.... http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share SteamOS (and many others) is up and coming which will improve Linux as a system for gamers. Microsoft on the other hand, if they continue on their current trend - which is abandoning previous releases in support of new ones (and that was their fatal mistake in the mobile sector) - are on a road to nowhere. Windows 10 had a horrible start, and as much gratitude as i feel for the company for the years from 1990 to 2010 i can't but miss the signs of their impending doom - at least in the software market. They just ran out of ideas (which they never really had frankly) and are faced with a much more competitive and specialised market - while trying to work the same wonders they did in the past with minimal financial resources and outsourcing their main programming workforce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nymphi--DoubleDee 83 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sniperturtle said: SteamOS (and many others) is up and coming which will improve Linux as a system for gamers. Microsoft on the other hand, if they continue on their current trend - which is abandoning previous releases in support of new ones (and that was their fatal mistake in the mobile sector) - are on a road to nowhere. Windows 10 had a horrible start, and as much gratitude as i feel for the company for the years from 1990 to 2010 i can't but miss the signs of their impending doom - at least in the software market. They just ran out of ideas (which they never really had frankly) and are faced with a much more competitive and specialised market - while trying to work the same wonders they did in the past with minimal financial resources and outsourcing their main programming workforce. The last OS they stopped supporting, was Vista, which was total garbage anyways. 7 is still supported, which is a 9 year old OS. I think you might be having them confused with Apple, which stopped support (and calls them obsolete) for products from 2010.Again, you are talking about an OS that has 40% of the marketshare. Windows 7 is slotted to stop being supported in 2020., making it run for 11 years. Even if you were to total up every OS, besides Windows and Android, you barely pass half of what Windows marketshare is. And this is from Steam Statistics: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam 96.3% use Windows... Man... Yeah... That's really faltering.... I better dump my Microsoft stock. It sure is sinking like a rock, losing 0.13% of the Steam Market. And Linux sure is on that rocket rise, of 0.02% growth! Edited June 25, 2018 by Nymphi--DoubleDee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Sniperturtle said: SteamOS (and many others) is up and coming which will improve Linux as a system for gamers. SteamOS does need to convince gamers that Linux distros are a good daily driver OS though, they need to convince developer studios that Linux distros are worth porting to. The question is, what can SteamOS do to prove the merits of Linux, that noob-friendly distro Ubuntu couldn't/can't do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
