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are those for sound and body kits for the mirage?

After booting up, I'm not impressed. a bit Baffled that the place is packed but there are no changes. Ok the contacts are there, but no Lights for the Mirage, and no way to buy or earn them in that contact. I see no change to the map, to WF. It is possible I bought the light kit for my other cop, but i know i have the undercover light. Ya know I give up. Most of the stuff the contact has I already have. So I'll dabble in it, why fix up the car, the trolls will just flip me. Ok i see Maglo post above, ill check tomarro.

ah so similar to the Brick/ 8-Ball, this seems to be the same with the 20guage slug, (a reskin of the beanbag shotty) where it gained power over distance, I shot somebody 5x at about 10meters n he just shrugged it off.

Not sure where you are reading but below is what im talking about. and it was always the SD that could stun you ez. the AV is fixed slotted with a H3

Confusing. This seems to be misworded. And this is a 3 shot AV sniper. So we are increasing the range from 88 to 95m to get a two shot kill, for an anti-vehicle, and the stamina effect, yet the DMR-SD which is notorious for being used as a stunner, and is a two shot sniper, is not effected by these changes'. It is almost like they have mixed up the two guns

Excellent @MageLO APB: Reloaded Version 1.31 “New Horizon” launches today - We’re excited to finally get some new content into the game and hope that you all enjoy New Horizon as much as we enjoyed making it. This update is one of the largest updates that we have ever shipped so we are expecting to run into some issues that we are going to have to address. Mack's post >>> I presume this will be a 12 hr or more update??? Depending on what issues come up. Is this the only update or will it come in two updates or what I'm asking is, is it all this one update or is more comeing next week?? I am pleased to see the update as soon as this, I expected a few more weeks. MageLO will keep us informed on the other thread, but we can comment here. Go ahead and delete this post GM, I see the other thread is open

He is right, they did these things and it did improve the game, but they nerfed allot of the joker weapons. They always blame the gun or the car and not the user. They buried the vegas with nerfing the wheelies because some 'person' liked to flip people. Someone rage hacks and the community wants that gun nerfed not the rage hacker. So ya we got some new things but they are worthless. Between the nerfs and lack of any rule enforcement. The game itself has become a joke. How they think I'm going to spend on anything, game is full of mouthy toxics, guns don't work as advertised (points to useless bar chart), if they're not running their mouths at me, they are hacking or both. ie. We get the car fixed but by now there's nobody to show the car to, no reason for paints. no reason for creativity cuz the only ones to see it are these mouthy narcissists. We still don't have these new things, its still up in the air as to exactly how long, and to tell ya the truth is just too late. They had zero luck with EAC and they'll have zero luck with the next AC. Not to mention the more money I spend, the worse Lo treats me. I would consider any hacking or chat toxics to be LO's fault, any server lag sus of being caused by other players as in 'Lag Botting' any gun nerfing, ect, would be considered as 'Treatment by LO of paying customers'

Exactly. You used to be able to. They have butchered all of the long range pistols. I mean its a Gun game, how many times do i have to shoot you to call it a kill. How far from reality can we get, 15 shots at range, that is absolutely ridiculous!

i have A.D.D. and had to buy the whole armas farm for several characters = bout 3,500 USD. because I wasn't sure who I wanted to be and Why. So I spent another 200 usd on another game thats similar in that I have to have everything from Each country, n be like 10+ countries

fell off my chair rotf why now when they will have new things 'in the coming weeks"?

Matt said as much in the Ama, and I don't understand why I am hearing about nerfs and not buffs. Allot plays into this subject. 1. The perception of weapons by Legit players is clouded by cheaters use of a given gun, So someone uses a macro and a 45 and everyone wants to Hate on the .45 Ya know its a .45, it should kill ya in 2-3 shots max, why does everyone have one, cuz all the other pistols suck especially when used v someone with a sub gun or ar in cq. The mountie and nuvant auto 9mm show extended range on the bar graph and are decent in cq, but are worthless outside of very close range. Every time the hax are seen using a gun, Everyone wants it nerfed, and every time a gun kills a hack there is big push to nerf it. Then in the end, the gun suffers but still works for the Hack, and not for the legit. Its like watching a dog chase his tail. So no weapons should be adjusted until it is fairly clear that we have little to no hackers. Then U reset all the guns to the original spec's, and adjust if needed later on. The bar chart displaying health, hard, stamina damage and Range needs to be put in numbers. stk and range in meters not some errant bar chart. This should be displayed on armas

Well, I think I'm just too old, too slow for shooters like this.

Allot of this boils down to MM, MM can be so lop sided. Allot of cases where a gold will not play if teamed with a bronze, because he afraid to lose and damage his gold. Leaving me to fight the sweatys that would've won anyway, which is fine for me. Because then I can just clown the opp and wait the clock down. I would only do this on my main cop who is broke. But I don't have to keep rushing and dying to appease my tm. In the case of tickets, if I still have tags or radar jams to do, i will stay on. But soon as I get my tickets I'm out. Not being a matter of my threat, because I don't care about MY threat, its a matter of time. The energy spent and time and sweat to finish a mission, even a winning mish. You're only gonna get a few dollars, so for the cop he needs that chump change. My crims don't, they don't need money and really I don't need tickets cause there is nothing to buy that interests me. So fighting thru a losing mission just to feed 'sweatys' and protect your self from being accused of afk. The afk thing is a big issue, because allot of times you will see the mission start with certain players marked as afk. And I immediately think that players is a friend of the opp, and the mission will be 'Rigged'. or you can show up and be tk'd by some narcissist gold . We'll have to see, it all depends on the AC, and what ever changes to the map they've made. WF is not the good map to play, and is harder to finish the contacts because of pop. I really hope they have something worth grinding thru

The 45. and norseman both are good at real close range but the health hitting power drops off too early, which i can understand in the case of the norseman but the .45 should still have solid full power hits out to a med range. The Obeya Rifle I use the Broadside and it seems to take more stk than it used to.

Ok the .45 1911 is an Iconic Pistol and should not be nerfed but in fact buffed. Now I can respect you want to see the other pistols become more main stream. The way to do that is to buff them into something worth having. Secondary's play an important role, and almost serve as a primary weapon for those using snipers or explosives

I will try to be Brief. First off, the perception of the abilities of any weapon are misconstrued by any Legit player. And You might say Mack is crazy and I am, but that's beside the point. These weapons are manipulated by hackers, in accuracy, recoil, and hitting power. Said hackers have some sort of health buff or God Mode. Although this thread isn't about hax it plays a role in the perception of a given weapon, that said, I will begin with my perception of a few. Most of the shotguns need some buffing, in particular; The New 20 gauge slug shotgun is possibly the biggest piece of 'Trash' I simply don't have the words. This gun has less hard damage that a jg. We are talking about a Slug a solid chunk of lead. This gun in the hands of some is a ez 2 stk. For me, I put 5 slugs in someone at a range of 15 feet or less, and he din't die. The other not as new heavy shot gun, the 10gauge pump. has no range, and fires way too slow. The .38 with cj3, I mean U people do know this is a double action revolver in real life. Ya shouldn't have to pull the hammer back for each shot for one, and two it fires way too slow, and needs a slight buff in kill power The Alig types all are highly inaccurate with the exception of the swarm types The cone of spray for your Ogre is hilariously wide, and do away with the trigger timer The Auto shotguns all need serious buffs. The .45 is crap now, has no hitting power. Your basic starter 9mm is like a crappy bb gun and the starter Star is way too slow. All of the nades are crap, buff all the subs, the Norseman, and oca types Buff the Obeya hit power and make the carbines more accurate.

I'm astonished that you and others want gun nerfs. Most of the guns need major buffs. I used to get Kills off the .45 and the Harbringer, both have turned into loud bb guns. I'm disappointed that matt is not doing the buffs he talked about in ama. However over all I'll say that this update is a step in the right direction. It is unfortunate that these contacts are in WF and or that contacts in general cannot be accessed or played cross district. I would have liked to see sound kits for existing cars. All these changes will depend on the worthiness of this new AC., and what is to be gained from new contacts. At this point i barely break even with the payout from a mission after considering the price of ammo and car spawns, when your take from a win is 500 cash and for an L it's 800. I mean you guys are talking about nerfs when these guns take several magazines to kill. Guess I just suck too bad to use a gun.

There was no time to see anything, a giant hud Welcoming me, then the red warning that I was out of bounds, with a 3 second countdown to my death where i flopped dead on the Deck. I suppose under other circumstances it would have been funny. Had I lived long enough to see anything

Well this is the part of the issue, I was playing a mission, with some cool silvers. Cool as in they weren't hacks. When I was pulled from the mission to the dev tower. Just prior to this the gm made a comment about my past forum posts. So about a week or more before this I said something that would imply I was suspicious of LO's reasoning behind the unbanning, that being a test of the eac, using gm testers using various hacks to see if eac was triggered. So I may have implied or said that I suspect a conspiresy involving past employees or gms being linked to the hacking in some way. However It took me a couple days to figure out what the gm was mad about. So I have zero proof that this happened nor did the gm say that my visit to the tower was because of the forum posts, but I know it was, because I was quiet in chat, I had already given up on the game becoming hackless. In addition starting a couple days before the unbanning, I started getting trolled hard by several players. So when the gm got involved, I automatically considered that gm to be at the root of all the trolling. And it kinda sucked cuz I liked that gm, I sent letters to matt back in the day to get that gm a Red GM title. Did it once, they can do it again. I can't play if I have to worry about trolls backed up or sent or green lighted by a gm. I can't trust the gm anymore. I even sent a message to said gm to call off the dogs, and I would never speak in chat or forum again. The message was never read and the trolling continued day after day, so I erased the offer in the message via the editor and erased it all cuz i couldn't just delete the message. I mean I totally quit missions even for tickets, and was just impounding stolen cars, that is how sad it got. And the trolls stopped me from doing impounds. And I blamed the gm, suspecting the gm sent these trolls to keep me down. I don't mind adding that I believe the gm or LO nerfed my guns, because non of them do any damage. I put 5 slug rounds into center mass at 10 feet n it didn't kill. U should never push someone to the point that they no longer care, and if you do, U shouldn't keep pushing after they've given up, because that is like putting a badger in a corner. Now I have nothing to lose, the game is ruined now, they trying to get me banned. So with the continued harassment, trolls trying to bait me into fighting back so they can make their report n I can be banned for cause. Don't let me stand in your way, Ban Me then. Any of You kids wanna come by n even touch my truck, I will defend myself and return the troll in kind with interest. Aside from that, I just want peace. It is really too bad it had to end up this way. You put me in a corner, its either die an uninstall or Fight, and I have nothing to lose going down Fighting.

The hackers and trolls think that just being in district is Supporting LO. Saying that they get money by people just being there. And somehow this money is held by the Dev, and only released to the greater LO when that dev see's people in district. Thats too bad, cuz I was only there to park a truck on the corner, where said troll was drifting, so I could block drifters. I mean you accept their corruption, figure you can still play but not combat wise, n the gm and a bunch of troll attack you for weeks on end, or months now. The only way I would support or pay this company would be if Matt sold it, and was not part of the new company at all, and the particular corrupt gm would have to be fired and banned. Basically He is a loose cannon

The way to deal with hackers that seem to be fully sanctioned by LO, is to not K up. The way to deal with toxic staff is never pay them a dime. According to my opp, the gold on my team was blatantly hacking, opp wanted me to Look at the gold so I could see he was hacking. I did not look at the gold, I have no clue what he was doing, but had I seen something, I would not report it because of fear of attack by the gm. and outside of notifying the gm the report would go no where cuz there is anti cheat to go to. Support won't see the report for a good 5 years according to supports endless past tickets taking years to process. If the gold was hacking is between that gold and LO. Then the gold and my opp argued over if it was cool to hack because of me playing with only a .38 so he called it 2v1, even though I did participate and fired my .38 n i think i hit one of em. ( I only carry the 38 because gm nerfed all of my guns) Best way to deal with LO and the trolls and hackers is not to play their game. Maybe go in and do something else fun, thats not a mission, or go play another game for a few months n come back to forum to check if they've decided to change their ways. What have you got to lose, that you haven't already lost?

Fix the Guns, it can't be the hackers with extra health so it must be LO nerfed the guns. 5 rounds dead center mass, 20 gauge Slugs, 10 ft away, did nothing. And we all know there can't be any hackers, so its not like god mode health. So it must be that they covertly nerfed certain players guns. Hire more gm's, we need like 25 gm's per active district, not one once a week. Don't bother fixing that car, I wont buy it or any kits. Don't bother with a new anticheat, cuz we know you won't USE IT. You need to adjust MM again cuz we still have occasional balanced opp; silvers v silvers, n We can't have that, it must be all golds v all bronze.

There are no more joker boxes, You buy or earn joker tickets now. So I farm these tickets in the Hope that some day, there will be more than just B.B. guns to buy. Its hard to get a player to spend if you keep offending the player but that aside. So in the players case, it is Fun that is the product, and to the financial investor, his interest is in profit. The investors gonna look at the sales numbers, the pop numbers. He's not gonna look at the gun I am talking about, he is gonna look at the over all sales figures. He's gonna look at sales and pop and compare it to modern newer games. It's like trying kill mice or bugs with bait food pellets, Why would the mouse eat your bait pellets when there is a nice fermented slice of pizza. It's like that tv show The Money Pit"

@MageLO Hey I think it's broken, when switching characters it booted me saying account in use by another. Then I get back in, and All the districts are gone, I try to reboot game and the launcher will not run. launcher repaired and i was able to log in, but got a server down error.

Ah they way I see it, they are saving me money, I'm not gonna spend with the 'Marketing dept' and their cronies making comments about my Skill and lack of hacking, my mother ect. I figured for a long time some of these 'Marketers' were a gm's alt or at least sent by the gm. Then they crossed a line, that makes me reconsider who is what. Not just the Mother insults, now its gone into full on racism, anti woman, you name it. They are getting away with it. Its like they blame me for them getting banned, when I haven't used report since they bypassed eac. But when they got racist I knew it wasn't the gm. I think the hackers think I'm the driving force behind getting them banned, well thats a stupid thing. Cuz eac never detected a hacker nor banned one, only legits and the legit never came back. These are all people banned a decade ago during my first year. So I just block em, funny how kids are these days thinking they are smarter than older people. But thats the way LO wants it, so I'm not gonna report or cry. I'll just dabble in the game when I'm tired of War thunder. I had pretty much quit playing because of the harassment and was trying to turn in stolen cars n a mob of em stopped me n blocked the impound lot. Which pushed me into a psychosis where I decided to play 'My Way'. I'll put like this, Imma play but I"m gonna put in the same effort that Matt has, and any further effort will depend solely on the gm's actions or inactions, regarding toxics. furthermore I won't touch the report button for any reason, you could hack upside the walls n ceiling n I won't say nothing, Say what you want about my mother, I won't say nothing. However, I wouldn't rush to fix the mirage or any other additions to armas, cuz I won't Spend Ever.